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Jadaki
I would have posted this earlier in the month but I spaced it off... PS3 is being outsold by the older Gameboy model.

Console and Handled Sales April 2007

Nintendo DS - 471k
Wii - 360k
PlayStation 2 - 194k
PSP - 183k
Xbox 360 - 174k
Game Boy Advance - 84k
PlayStation 3 - 82k


Oh and with that April sales total, Wii outpaced the first 6 months of any console ever produced including the almighty PS2.



I know, I know... your thinking wait till FF13 and MGS4 hit. Well it now looks like FF13 isn't hitting until 08 at least and there are rumors of it being ported to the 360 due to those lackluster hardware sales in Japan. As far as MGS4 it probably won't be out this year either. Going through two Christmas seasons without a system selling killer app is going to lock Sony into the 3rd place role for a long time. Compared to the 360 the sales for the first 6 months don't look bad, but the 360 had severe system shortages the first 6 months. We have all seen PS3's collecting dust at Best Buy since after Christmas. All this amounts to more and more developers jumping ship and taking games to other platforms. On the bright side, I heard they are releasing a firmware update to play PS1&2 games in 1080p. That sounds pretty sweet wink.gif
theresa113
What is the sales volume in relationship to the price point? ( I have no clue about gaming consoles, but I would think price would have an effect on sales. I am sure there are a lot more Scions on the road than Mercedes.)
Jadaki
Thats one of the big problems with the PS3, they are only the second console to ever launch at a price point of over 500 dollars for a base system. The other one was the Neo Geo, chances are you never heard of it because it didn't exactly take off. There is a definite cut off point for price of a console system, especially when you are going for market penetration. The idea in the industry is always sell your consoles cheap, make money on the games. Sony didn't just put out an overpriced system, they put out out a system with no killer applications (system sellers) to drive sales and now 3rd party developers who were signed on as making games exclusively for the PS3 have since jumped ship and either made thier games multiplatform or pulled them entirely.

Meanwhile Nintendo is hitting whole new markets that gaming has been immune to before...

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Here in the US, owners are telling us what's going on inside their household. It's not surprising that 95 percent of males age six to 24 are playing Wii on a regular basis -- that's expected. But look what's happening to other people within the household. So this first column looks at males between the age of 25 and 49. 95 percent are reporting that they've tried Wii and then there's the percent reporting that they're playing on a regular basis, which is just over 60 percent. Now let's add women to that same age band. Women 25 to 49. Almost a third are regular users. Three quarters say that they've at least tried the system. What about men over 50? 16 percent are saying that they're playing regularly. Men over 50. Females over 50. Now this is amazing. 10 percent are saying that they're regular users of the Wii. I have to believe that this is an industry first.
BigDMcGee
I have to say... I miss the boat completely on the Wii before it came out.. I was telling everyone who would listen that it was the biggest gimmick ever, and a sure sign that nintendo has completely jumped the shark.....


Good call me.
GrinderMJ
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 1:01 AM) *
Thats one of the big problems with the PS3, they are only the second console to ever launch at a price point of over 500 dollars for a base system. The other one was the Neo Geo, chances are you never heard of it because it didn't exactly take off. There is a definite cut off point for price of a console system, especially when you are going for market penetration. The idea in the industry is always sell your consoles cheap, make money on the games. Sony didn't just put out an overpriced system, they put out out a system with no killer applications (system sellers) to drive sales and now 3rd party developers who were signed on as making games exclusively for the PS3 have since jumped ship and either made thier games multiplatform or pulled them entirely.

Meanwhile Nintendo is hitting whole new markets that gaming has been immune to before...


I'll penetrate your market.
Jadaki
QUOTE (GrinderMJ @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:07 PM) *
I'll penetrate your market.


Promise?
speedz99
QUOTE
Here in the US, owners are telling us what's going on inside their household. It's not surprising that 95 percent of males age six to 24 are playing Wii on a regular basis -- that's expected. But look what's happening to other people within the household. So this first column looks at males between the age of 25 and 49. 95 percent are reporting that they've tried Wii and then there's the percent reporting that they're playing on a regular basis, which is just over 60 percent. Now let's add women to that same age band. Women 25 to 49. Almost a third are regular users. Three quarters say that they've at least tried the system. What about men over 50? 16 percent are saying that they're playing regularly. Men over 50. Females over 50. Now this is amazing. 10 percent are saying that they're regular users of the Wii. I have to believe that this is an industry first.


These are the most absurd and obviously fake/skewed statistics I've ever seen.
Jadaki
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:16 PM) *
These are the most absurd and obviously fake/skewed statistics I've ever seen.


You realize those are statistics based on households that own a Wii, not every person in the US right?
theresa113
I believe the statistics. Here is why... I found out recently that my 53 year old female boss has a wii and she is hooked on it. She plays on it every night, camped out on th couch with the TV on. She asked me if I wanted to borrow it while I am on leave. Now I am thinking I should have said yes.
speedz99
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 12:21 PM) *
You realize those are statistics based on households that own a Wii, not every person in the US right?


Yeah, maybe I just have a different definition of 'regular use' than the study. Do they explain this anywhere?
Jadaki
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:26 PM) *
Yeah, maybe I just have a different definition of 'regular use' than the study. Do they explain this anywhere?


It was taken from a Nintendo press conference, I'm not sure they made the hard data available that was just an overview they released. I'll see if I can find it.
Ouch-8s
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 1:16 PM) *
These are the most absurd and obviously fake/skewed statistics I've ever seen.

I'm going to give this statement a 48% chance of being true. 51% when drunk.
speedz99
QUOTE (Ouch-8s @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 12:30 PM) *
I'm going to give this statement a 48% chance of being true. 51% when drunk.


I'm gonna throw something out there, and if you don't like it you can give it right back.

I want to be on you.
BigDMcGee
The point is... Germans love david hasselhoff.. don't get sidetracked by statistics.
Ouch-8s
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 1:31 PM) *
I'm gonna throw something out there, and if you don't like it you can give it right back.

I want to be on you.

I love it when my memory gives me a better than 50% chance of some delicious homosociality.
Jadaki
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:32 PM) *
The point is... Germans love david hasselhoff


Can you blame them?
CobaltBlue
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:01 PM) *
Thats one of the big problems with the PS3, they are only the second console to ever launch at a price point of over 500 dollars for a base system. The other one was the Neo Geo, chances are you never heard of it because it didn't exactly take off.

The 3DO was $700 when it came out. (It's sad, but we had one.)
Jadaki
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 4:14 AM) *
The 3DO was $700 when it came out. (It's sad, but we had one.)


Your right, but it dropped in price really fast and was also licensed to other companies to make various models and they had different price points for the basically same hardware, one of which was 400 if I remember right. I got my 3D0 used so I never payed full price for it.
aadams_22
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:16 PM) *
These are the most absurd and obviously fake/skewed statistics I've ever seen.


well they came from www.infendo.com which is a pro Nintendo website
princeof56k
I've seen the PS3s sitting in Best Buy. They're just too expensive. On the flip side, I cant even remember ever seeing a Wii at Best Buy. I know they have them. They just sell out as soon as they come in.

Bottom line is the PS3 is still a game machine, and $500+ is just too much. Then Sony massively screwed up with shortages. Therefore, parents were more likely to buy the cheaper Wii for their kids. Once that happened, parents were more likely to try the thing out and spead the word to their friends (other adults with money). Nintendo had one of the best combinations of technology and marketing strategy I've ever seen.
Jadaki
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 6:45 PM) *
well they came from www.infendo.com which is a pro Nintendo website


You can check Neogaf or about 15 other sites and see the same stats, those were verified by 3rd party tracking and reported in several places. Besides Speedz was talking about the usage the Wii is getting from non-typical gamers that Nintendo reported at their latest press conferences.

But you know, I'm saying the PS3 is failing just for giggles...

QUOTE (Business Week)
Wipeout Of The Week

Who would have guessed that video games could be so bad for Sony's (SNE) health? On May 16 the Tokyo company said its games division's $1.9 billion loss was mostly to blame for a 68% drop in overall operating earnings last fiscal year. Sony cited the PlayStation 3's monster production and marketing costs, which it warned investors about before the machine's debut last November. But Sony also fell 500,000 consoles short of its production target. The 5.5 million PS3s shipped globally through March left the onetime king of the industry trailing both its main rivals, Nintendo (NTDOY) and Microsoft (MSFT). Worse, the actual number of PS3s in stores was closer to 3.6 million, with the remaining 1.9 million either sitting in warehouses or en route to retailers.
Suited_Up
It's all good, I love mine and that's all I really care about.

I should play more though.
chrozzo
360 on a HD tv definitely helps...mmmmmm
eYank
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 12:05 PM) *
I have to say... I miss the boat completely on the Wii before it came out.. I was telling everyone who would listen that it was the biggest gimmick ever, and a sure sign that nintendo has completely jumped the shark.....
Good call me.

I still say that
the people i know that own a wii all own the same 2 games
Tiger woods and zelda and they play wii sports

there are no good games out for it right now
zimmer4141
QUOTE (eYank @ Friday, May 25th, 2007, 9:10 AM) *
I still say that
the people i know that own a wii all own the same 2 games
Tiger woods and zelda and they play wii sports

there are no good games out for it right now


We'll see on Monday when Mario Party comes out. I'm sure that's going to be another one that everyone will have.
Jadaki
QUOTE (eYank @ Friday, May 25th, 2007, 12:10 PM) *
I still say that
the people i know that own a wii all own the same 2 games
Tiger woods and zelda and they play wii sports

there are no good games out for it right now


And there is no game on the PS3 that is a must own while the Wii has at least 2 already (Zelda and Wii Sports), hence the point of my original post. Their two big killer apps won't even hit the system for at least another year and by that time they might not even be PS3 exclusives.

It's funny that people knock Wii Sports when it will sell more systems than any game PS3 puts out this year. In Japan Wii Sports isn't packed with the system and it's hitting over a 60% sell through rate, nothing on the PS3 is even pushing 20% in Japan or the US.
WKTSWAY
My uncle works for Nintendo and I saw him as he came through town the other day (he hasn't had time for any time off since the launch of the system). He said they are now producing more systems faster than they were during launch. I still have not seen one system in any store I have been to except for one in someones hands at a register.

They are still making them as fast as they can and still selling out. It's crazy how many are selling.
bleacherbum3
Currently I have a PS2.

I finally played the Wii for the 1st time last night.

I want one.
finztotheleft
My boys, ages 11 and 13, aren't at all interested in the Wii....neither are any of their friends, from what I hear. They do have the PS3 on the Xmas list, but know that there is a snowball's chance in hell that "Santa" will fork over $700 for it.
Jadaki
Sony’s game unit plans to cut jobs in U.S.

PS3 is killing the competition... or are they?

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TOKYO - Sony Corp.’s game unit said on Thursday it planned to cut jobs in the United States and was eyeing restructuring steps in Japan as it struggles to keep up with industry rival Nintendo Co. Ltd.

Sony’s game division posted an operating loss of 232 billion yen ($1.91 billion) in the year ended March 31 due to hefty start-up costs for the PS3, a spec-heavy console that has been losing out to Nintendo’s simpler but wildly popular Wii.
Jadaki
Sony being sued by a church

This is actually kind of funny, I hope Sony wins that lawsuit.

aadams_22
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, June 13th, 2007, 1:23 PM) *
Sony being sued by a church

This is actually kind of funny, I hope Sony wins that lawsuit.


Sony apologizes to Church of England

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070617/ap_on_...dral_video_game
jmkiser
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Sunday, June 17th, 2007, 2:55 PM) *


This is complete crap. Religious buildings deserve no more respect then any other locations where fictional battles take place on a video game.

I wish Sony would tell the church to stick it up their ***.
aadams_22
QUOTE (jmkiser @ Sunday, June 17th, 2007, 5:52 PM) *
I wish Sony would tell the church to stick it up their ***.


that's what I would have done
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