PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 6. MP3 posts a blind of $1.
5 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T, 6, 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

a few questions

Was it wrong to lead out on the river? Should I have checked represting a missed flush? And if I would have done this do I reraise or just call?

But since I led out, and got reraised and a call behind...

Am I ever still ahead after a raise and a call? I know you're not supposed to fold with any kind of hand in a huge pot, but if there was ever a case where you should I'd say this was it.

Thoughts please.

It'd be tough to put MP3 on a 7 with the flop action, unless he has exactly 78c, or maybe 79c or 73c.

CO is the same, I think he has a T here, and unless it's T7, you're ahead of him.

Given that, I like the bet out on the river, and I like the overcall. You're behind a ton here, sure, but you're definitely ahead more than 1 in 18.25 times, which is all you need to be to call here.

I can't figure out what MP3 or CO has here given the action throughout the hand. A 7 . A 8 , two pair, a straight maybe.

I think you have to call on the river.

I play the hand the same way.

can we raise the river for value?
we have to have CO beat.
i have no idea what the hell MP3 would have that caps that flop then makes a straight on the river, except for a flopped straight, and i think theyd raise the turn.

If he flopped a straight, something is really wrong.

I'm intrigued by a river 3-bet. I would be more likely to do it HU than 3 handed though.

LEAD THE FLOP.

river over call is automatic

Good call; being aware of your relative position is the nuts.

you have co beat 100% of the time here, he has ace ten or jacks or something like that.

so your only concern is what does mp3 cap the flop with that he doesn't raise your turn bet with? ide be damn tempted to take it to three.

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leading this flop is mandatory due to your relative position with the preflop raiser. i hope you weren't planning on checkraising that flop, right??

how often do we have to be ahead of MP3 to make 3-betting the river good since CO is coming along? 1 in 2 times? 1 in 3? i hate math...

I lead the flop.

I check-raise the turn.

I bet-overcall the river.


--CM

I'm not sure if this is the right math, but here goes:

If you 3 bet, and the other two flat call, you've put out one bet to win two more, so I would think you need to be better 1 time in 3 to make it work.

However if CO folds, you need to be better half the time.

And you risk the reraise, so you'd want to be better more than a third of the time to 3 bet.

CO just called 2 cold, i dont think he's ever folding for 1 more

Why?

(I got thoughts, I'll listen first)

value baby. trap both of them for 2 bets. i doubt anyone's taking free cards after that flop

then again, if we lead the flop the betting may turn out different...

Not commenting on the play, just doing the math...

Now, is the math right?

Without reading replies...

I prefer bet/3-betting to check/raising this flop. Out of position, with the preflop raiser last to act, and on a somewhat draw-y board, I don't think the deception value of check/raising for small bets can make to the pot you might be able to build with a flop lead and a bunch of loose callers between you and the raiser. The check/raise over 2 bets screams "monster" and your hand has a better chance of being underestimated for some junk 2-pair for a bet/3-bet.

Like the turn lead... that is probably a bad card but we still have to lead. 10 outs to fill up even if we're behind.

The river lead is standard as well. When I'm raised on the end, I figure I'm about to be shown a straight, but you still have to call down.

you miss the part where we don't raise the flop... guaranteed money

Clarification:

I don't avoid raising the flop just to raise the turn.

But once the flop gets capped, I am convinced MP will lead the turn.
And thus I check-raise to trap both players.

--cm

ok, now we're talking!
thanks for clarificaton