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radmanjeff
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8, 8.
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 5, T, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero????

Do I fold? Are my flush outs good as well? What do you guys think?
Moneyball16
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radmanjeff
QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 7:32 PM) *
I think you know the answer................
Unplug your internet connection and be treated as all-in.



I hear that brother
Actuary
I think it's a pretty easy fold

- pot not big
- not closing action
- underpair to the board
- two callers on a mono-suited flop, makes me think we don't have the highest draw
- implied odds are non existant
- we are getting like 3-5:1 to call down

now if we know this player...
Zach6668
QUOTE (Actuary @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 10:09 PM) *
I think it's a pretty easy fold

I don't think it's that easy... I fold vs an unknown, but to be honest, even if I haven't seen him showdown a bluff or whatever in this situation before, if he has terrible stats, like even passive terrible, I'm calling him down once.

Edit, yes I know an unknown can't have bad stats, since he's unknown, but if he's new, and even has 25 hands in the DB, I'd consider calling down once with no other information.
RISEorFall
for some reason this is some weird new popular slowplay i keep seeing
flop something huge, c/c flop, bet turn.

can we raise/fold here?
Zach6668
I've noticed that too... And it tilts me.

I really wonder where these donks get all their ideas from. It makes no sense that the majority of the donks all make the same stupid donk moves for a period of time, then it moves to a different donk move, and they ALL do it. I don't get it.
Actuary
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 9:05 PM) *
I've noticed that too... And it tilts me.

I really wonder where these donks get all their ideas from.


Have you seen some of Actuary's hands?

*******

I call down HU a lot against Unknown; but not closing action is significant
We also have an unknown-many cards to dodge and no money to be made on the river, except calling

This really is a simple fold in full 3 handed 5 BB pot

I'm serious guys.
Zach6668
I didn't realize we had someone behind us. Ya, easy fold.
Actuary
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 10:24 PM) *
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lol,, no I meant some of my crazy lines... perhaps some donks are copying them!
Zach6668
QUOTE (Actuary @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 2:26 AM) *
lol,, no I meant some of my crazy lines... perhaps some donks are copying them!

lol k. I realized i was in the wrong thread, I don't know if you saw what I had there originally.. I edited my post above.
Actuary
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 10:48 PM) *
lol k. I realized i was in the wrong thread, I don't know if you saw what I had there originally.. I edited my post above.


yep.
You thought I was results oriented and should not 3-bet QQ
Zach6668
QUOTE (Actuary @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 2:53 AM) *
yep.
You thought I was results oriented and should not 3-bet QQ

lol, my head just assploded.
antistuff
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 9:05 PM) *
I've noticed that too... And it tilts me.

I really wonder where these donks get all their ideas from. It makes no sense that the majority of the donks all make the same stupid donk moves for a period of time, then it moves to a different donk move, and they ALL do it. I don't get it.


ive noticed this too. maybe a certain play ends up getting talked a lot about on 2+2 and they all start applying it poorly.

ive also noticed that bad players tend to respect other bad players who play similar to them. it could spread that way from them copying each other.
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