CBass1724
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:33 AM
OK, I am thinking about getting a concealed handgun for protection. Something safe, yet cool looking. It will basically be stored in the house in case the unexpected break in happens. I want to go to the range and use it too...almost like another hobby.
Do any of you have one?
What are some suggestions?
I don't know much about guns, but I want/need a safety on it and want to be well educated on the weapon I get.
I kinda like the revolvers more than the semi-automatics, but not sure of the differences or benefits of either.
Holla back.
Oh, post some pics if you can.
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:37 AM
digitalmonkey
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:42 AM
Don't forget to keep it loaded and under your pillow.
hblask
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:48 AM
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:42 AM)

Don't forget to keep it loaded and under your pillow.
Thats good advice.
BDPoolie
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:49 AM
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:33 PM)

OK, I am thinking about getting a concealed handgun for protection. Something safe, yet cool looking. It will basically be stored in the house in case the unexpected break in happens. I want to go to the range and use it too...almost like another hobby.
Do any of you have one?
What are some suggestions?
I don't know much about guns, but I want/need a safety on it and want to be well educated on the weapon I get.
I kinda like the revolvers more than the semi-automatics, but not sure of the differences or benefits of either.
Holla back.
Oh, post some pics if you can.
Something safe - LOL
Yet cool looking - If it's going to be concealed and stored in the house, why would it need to be "cool" looking.
CBass1724
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:50 AM
QUOTE (BDPoolie @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:49 PM)

Something safe - LOL
Yet cool looking - If it's going to be concealed and stored in the house, why would it need to be "cool" looking.
Because I want to use it at a range smarty.
I <3 super soakers though.
Dogpatch
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:04 PM
fighter
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:08 PM
QUOTE (Dogpatch @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 6:04 AM)

"I really wish Colt hadn't discontinued its line of small autos"
I think the OP wants a new gun and not a second hand gun.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shooter2_indy/g35.htmlcant go past a glock as a first gun.
Dogpatch
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (fighter @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 4:08 PM)

"I really wish Colt hadn't discontinued its line of small autos"
I think the OP wants a new gun and not a second hand gun.
A well cared for Colt is better than any "new" gun. Besides, pocket ponys have style.
simo_8ball
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:12 PM

How can you intimidate someone with a concealed gun? If it's concealed it's good for nothing. This is what you need.
CBass1724
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:14 PM
I was a fan of the laser gun in Contra. Spread was my favorite though.
Smith and Wesson seemed to have an array of choices.
fighter
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (Dogpatch @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 6:10 AM)

A well cared for Colt is better than any "new" gun. Besides, pocket ponys have style.
Yeah but a person who is asking about guns on a poker forum shouldnt go second hand gun shoping the same way that a person who can bearly change a tyre shouldnt go second hand car shoping.
Dogpatch
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 4:12 PM)


How can you intimidate someone with a concealed gun? If it's concealed it's good for nothing. This is what you need.
Or bare minimum...
solderz
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:36 PM
Do you really want a concealed hand-gun? Meaning one you will carry with you and keep concealed (shoulder holster under jacket) which requires a special license (in some areas it is entirely illegal). Or do you want a gun for home protection only? If so, the 9 mill pictured above is great. If you really want to carry it, i recommend a snub-nose .38 (aka saturday night special). A lot lighter and smaller.
Or you could go for a .50 caliber, just because they can shoot through bullet proof glass. Which is always cool.
speedz99
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 12:39 PM
9 mil. Easy to shoot, relatively inexpensive, looks cool enough, etc.
Or go with a Moonraker.
BDPoolie
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:02 PM
Personally, I'm not into guns, but since most guys think a gun is just an extension of their penis, I have created a gun just for you. * View in full size to see all the options.
DCJ001
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:20 PM
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:33 PM)

OK, I am thinking about getting a concealed handgun for protection. Something safe, yet cool looking. It will basically be stored in the house in case the unexpected break in happens. I want to go to the range and use it too...almost like another hobby.
Saying that you want a cool looking concealed handgun that's kept at home or used for practice at a range tells me that you're confused and that you should not have a gun.
scram
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:46 PM
LOL @ "cool looking".
I own enough firearms to arm a Central American revolution, yet I've never, ever purchased a single one of them with any regard to how they "look".
I am a hard core Glock guy. Always have been, always will be. I've basically owned 'everything' once and just haven't found anything superior to Glocks.
Also, I will add that I actually use my firearms. I don't store them in cases in closets and pamper them. I get them dirty. I shoot the everloving piss out of them. Every firearm I own has "wear" and some of them are so worn that they're worthless to anyone but me. My favorite firearms have rust pits and dings all over them.
I have yet to meet a sidearm that comes remotely close to reliability of any given Glock system.
Worst of the lot are 1911's.
Their massive popularity is a classic example of irrational collective delusion and circular, hive thinking. Even after a thousand dollars worth of "custom work", you're still operating a seriously dated system that has been drastically improved upon in the past 50 years or so. The High-Speed-Low-Drag types who love them so much are also usually carrying an M16 or a long arm of some kind. If you're relying solely on a sidearm to save your ***, there are much better choices.
Basically, if you stick in the Glock/Sig/HK/ family, you're golden. Rugers and Smith and Wessons are OK too, but you won't have any pride of ownership in them, since gun snobs look down on them (even though as functional tools, they're often times superior to the "cool guns" that the Tactical Toms love so much)
Another make that's worth looking at is the CZ series. The most accurate 9MM I own is a box stock CZ75 that shoots 2" groups @ 25 yards with cheap practice ammo. Due to the fact that they're built in the "eastern bloc", they have the advantage of being very inexpensive. If that same gun were built in Germany or Austria, it would cost 3X as much. Great, great gun. If you like revolvers, fine. Get a revolver. Rugers are tanks, Smiths are more refined plus they also offer ultra lightweight models for concealed carry that pack like a dream.
Basically, the whole "what pistol is best" debate is pointless. Sidearm design pretty much hit the wall about 30 years ago. There isn't much further it can go. The only improvements that have been made in pistol design are that of materials and CNC manufacturing techniques (the same advances that have benefited the manufacture of everything else). The "designs" are basically the same.
At present, basically every commercially offered pistol from a major manufacturer will be dead reliable and suitably accurate. The people who insist that one is "better" than the other are being dishonest and arguing minutiae and personal preference more than anything else.
Get whatever feels best to you, ignore what anyone else has to say about it, practice like hell with it and you're set.
hank213
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:55 PM
For home I like my .40 S&W Beretta model 92FS, but it's got a bit of a ghost trigger which takes some getting used to. After firing my dad's Glock I'm giving serious consideration to getting one, smooth as butter, strong recommendation for first time owner/shooter. Concealed carry I liked the Browning .380. Now, the Browning may not have the stopping power of a .40 or .45 but, with the right ammo, it can be plenty and it's a nice slim model that works extremely well in a shoulder or pancake holster.
I would steer clear of any 1911 models. I know many, many shooters swear by them. But the problem I had with them was one of practicality. I hated taking it to the range because I knew I'd have a pain on my hands when I broke it down to clean it. That friggin recoil spring is impossible to get in with just two hands. Owning a gun that you don't like to shoot is not a good way to go.
scram
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:56 PM
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 2:55 PM)

For home I like my .40 S&W Beretta model 92FS,
The 92FS is a 9MM.
The .40 is the 96.
Dogpatch
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:57 PM
As much I like to rib scram about Glocks... you really can't go wrong with one. They will take all the abuse you could possibly throw at them and still function.
I do take exception to his Colt hating, but whatever. A classic 1911 is like a classic Vette. Sure, it's been improved upon, but it's still sexy and goes fast. I mention the pocket pony cause it's what my grandfather carries. No need for a shoulder holster like you're trying to be Don Johnson, just drop the shit in your pocket.
Also CZ is a great brand. People are put off by the low prices, but they make excellent guns. I don't have much experince with their pistols, but they make a great .22 rifle.
hank213
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 1:59 PM
QUOTE (scram @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:56 PM)

The 92FS is a 9MM.
The .40 is the 96.
oops, you are correct sir.
friggin know it all, sheesh
Dogpatch
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 2:01 PM
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 5:59 PM)

oops, you are correct sir.
friggin know it all, sheesh
LOL I don't mind him being a know it all, I just wish he could learn some humility.
ShakeZuma
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 2:34 PM
what do you bunch of murderers want guns for?
freakin psychos
scram
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 2:41 PM
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:34 PM)

what do you bunch of murderers want guns for?
freakin psychos
Because we're murders!
How else would we murder if we didn't have guns?
ShakeZuma
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 2:51 PM
QUOTE (scram @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 6:41 PM)

Because we're murders!
How else would we murder if we didn't have guns?
oh da
mn, right, nevermind.
well in that case a Glock 23 is a great all around starter pistol/murdering tool.
fighter
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 2:58 PM
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 8:51 AM)

oh damn, right, nevermind.
well in that case a Glock 23 is a great all around starter pistol/murdering tool.
Stuff like this almost deserves a bump of the murdering transients thread
ShakeZuma
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:00 PM
QUOTE (fighter @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 6:58 PM)

Stuff like this almost deserves a bump of the murdering transients thread
you're right. give me two hours.
chrozzo
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:16 PM
Walther PPK
skaken, not stirred
yw
digitalmonkey
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:22 PM
Is the OP Asian?
Just wondering.
CBass1724
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:37 PM
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 7:22 PM)

Is the OP Asian?
Just wondering.
Haha, no. But honestly, that kids family lives a quarter mile from my house.
Thank you for all the serious posts. I've done a little research on my own too, but just wondering what peeps here had to say.
Glock seems like a good one. I don't want anything huge, but i do want to be able to carry it if I want to. I'd definitely get all the proper permits first, obv.
I am just gun ignorant but possibly want another hobby and am fascinated by guns. Going to a range seems like it would be fun to me. Especially after some bad beats.
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:39 PM
Get one that looks like this.
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:41 PM
CBass1724
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:50 PM
Looks like Castor Troy's. I like it.
SuitedAces21
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:52 PM
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:50 PM)

Looks like Castor Troy's. I like it.
Exactly. CT is a bad as
s.
Castor Troy
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:53 PM
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 3:52 PM)

Exactly. CT is a bad ass.
Yes, Yes I am.
chrozzo
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 4:17 PM
Desert Eagle...point five oh (.50)
timwakefield
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 5:04 PM
QUOTE (hblask @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 11:48 AM)

If I were a mod, I would go around locking threads whenever anybody made the penultimate post for that thread. Hblask wins.
Dogpatch
Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 3:10 AM
QUOTE (scram @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 6:41 PM)

Because we're murders!
How else would we murder if we didn't have guns?
I like swords as well
QUOTE (Castor Troy @ Tuesday, May 22nd, 2007, 7:53 PM)

Yes, Yes I am.
I could eat a peach for hours.
Mikey Ravioli
Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 6:51 AM
My father was a NYC cop when I was growing up and we always had guns in the house. He took me to the range and taught us respect for guns. He was a big Smith and Wesson fan. I currently own a S&W SW9VE and a 38 special.
The SW9VE is a 9mm semiauto and is nice. A lot of fun at the range. If I had a conceal permit and was concerned about personal protection, the 38 special would never leave my side. It is small, and incredibly reliable. It only holds 5 shots so its a bit of a pain at the range, but if you were in a life or death situation 5 shots would be all you need. A 38 has enough stopping power for a critical situation, but you won't have to worry about your shot passing through your target and hitting someone else like you would with the more powerful semi's.
gatortom64
Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 10:23 AM
I carry a Kel-tec .380. 7 shots. Hornady ammo. I have only had to use it once.
CBass1724
Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (gatortom64 @ Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007, 2:23 PM)

I carry a Kel-tec .380. 7 shots. Hornady ammo. I have only had to use it once.
Sounds like it could be a thread on its own.
Details? Death? Blow?
antistuff
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 6:49 AM
if you need a gun to feel safe you need therapy not a gun.
scram
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 6:56 AM

That- right there- invalidates just so much "opinion".
Appropriate name, too.
LongLiveYorke
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 7:13 AM
QUOTE (scram @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 10:56 AM)


That- right there- invalidates just so much "opinion".
Appropriate name, too.
I'm not exactly sure what your point is, but if you are referring to the differences in gun ownership between city life and a more rural setting, then I think your point is valid and it is one that is often forgotten in the gun debate.
Or you could be saying, "he's from New York and therefore a liberal and therefore his opinion doesn't matter because he's spineless."
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
antistuff
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 7:21 AM
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 7:13 AM)

I'm not exactly sure what your point is, but if you are referring to the differences in gun ownership between city life and a more rural setting, then I think your point is valid and it is one that is often forgotten in the gun debate.
Or you could be saying, "he's from New York and therefore a liberal and therefore his opinion doesn't matter because he's spineless."
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
im not liberal at all in the way thats meant here. i do not like the idea of gun control one bit. but seriously, whats up when a person is so scared in their home in America that they feel the need to own a gun? their fear is obviously unjustified. what an ugly way to feel.
of course he didn't mean anything, he is just a troll. but you knew that.
CBass1724
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 8:09 AM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 10:49 AM)

if you need a gun to feel safe you need therapy not a gun.
I didn't say I wanted one to "feel safe" nor do I "need" a gun. I
want one in case the unexpected happens, such as a break in to my home, as well as taking up another hobby such as gun collecting or shooting at a range.
Dogpatch
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 8:17 AM
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 12:09 PM)

I didn't say I wanted one to "feel safe" nor do I "need" a gun. I want one in case the unexpected happens, such as a break in to my home, as well as taking up another hobby such as gun collecting or shooting at a range.
I'm sorry, did you say something? All of my senses except sight are paralyzed due to your avatar.
CBass1724
Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 8:20 AM
QUOTE (Dogpatch @ Thursday, May 24th, 2007, 12:17 PM)

I'm sorry, did you say something? All of my senses except sight are paralyzed due to your avatar.
Hey glad I could help!
This gun looks cool.
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