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Preflop: ChkRaizin_Fool is SB with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, ChkRaizin_Fool calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) , , (4 players)
ChkRaizin_Fool bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds, Button raises, ChkRaizin_Fool 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Button caps, ChkRaizin_Fool calls.

Turn: (9 BB) (2 players)
ChkRaizin_Fool checks, Button bets, ChkRaizin_Fool raises, Button 3-bets, ChkRaizin_Fool calls.

River: (15 BB) (2 players)
ChkRaizin_Fool bets...
Final Pot: 17 BB

Villain has semi-maniac stats; but less than 20 hands

editted out my thoughts here..
please opine.
Zach6668
Cap the turn, lead the river. At that point you can consider just calling if he raises, imo.

Especially if he's semi-maniacal.
antistuff
cap that turn yo.
Dogpatch
Cap this turn.

This really looks like a flush on his part. c/r river? Either way, I think I'm getting all I can in at the end here.

Edit: Hmmm, just looked again... he capped the flop. Even for AKs that could be a little agg. b/c river?
Actuary
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Zach6668
Hmmm... I didn't notice that the turn completed the flush draw, I may slow down a bit.
RISEorFall
QUOTE (Dogpatch @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 5:25 AM) *
Cap this turn.

This really looks like a flush on his part.


ummmm
why are we capping the turn if we think he has a flush?
Moneyball16
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 2:07 PM) *
ummmm
why are we capping the turn if we think he has a flush?


Pretty easy to see that the Q was coming.
Dogpatch
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:07 PM) *
ummmm
why are we capping the turn if we think he has a flush?


LOL Cause I'm a donk, obv? I mean... as long as I know, right?

QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 5:25 PM) *
Pretty easy to see that the Q was coming.


Yea, what he said.... I was playing it by feel. Math is for nerds. (un-needed sw)
CoranMoran
QUOTE
His 3-bet concerned me (I used to not c/r so often like this, after leading the flop, and I'm learning how to intepret the turn 3-bet which seems to occur regularly against me when taking this line)


Tell me how you interpret the 3bet?

--cm
Actuary
QUOTE (CoranMoran @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 1:57 PM) *
Tell me how you interpret the 3bet?

--cm


QQ or a made flush, occassionally AsAx

Now, the flop would have me lower the chance of the flush.
But, that's because i'm not playing fd's like that.
Given some aggressive players do, it can fit.

AsKs, AsJs, fits pf too.
QQ of course

Also, since my flop play could easily fit a fd scenario, I put a bit more on a made flush.

The Q makes QQ much less likely and also hurts the chance he bets a flush, so I bet out.
A river c/r might have been real filthy - although obv, I lose 2 to the one hand he still could have

Had a non-Q paired, or any card aside from a Q, I'd c/c.
I was that close in deciding between QQ or a made flush, that letting him bet seemed to make sense
RISEorFall
QUOTE (Actuary @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 3:40 PM) *
I was that close in deciding between QQ or a made flush, that letting him bet seemed to make sense

sooo....he either has the one hand that has you crushed and only has one combo
as opposed to the several others he could have that you crush like
A icon_suit_spade.gif K icon_suit_spade.gif
A icon_suit_spade.gif Qx
A icon_suit_spade.gif J icon_suit_spade.gif
A icon_suit_spade.gif T icon_suit_spade.gif
any combo of KK or AA, especially if they include the A or K of spades

you have to put in more bets on the river. he loves his hand, he will bet, seems like a good time to c/r
why do you want to c/r all the other hands youve been posting and not this one?
Actuary
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:01 PM) *
sooo....he either has the one hand that has you crushed and only has one combo
as opposed to the several others he could have that you crush like


no silly.

read.

If the Q had not come, I put him on QQ as often as a flush.
FLop action was not flush like, as well
Actuary
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:01 PM) *
you have to put in more bets on the river. he loves his hand, he will bet, seems like a good time to c/r
why do you want to c/r all the other hands youve been posting and not this one?


he won't love a flush now.
he will love QQ obv.

I think you're probably right- maybe - close anyway
I may have feared a chk thru too much here, although, with my aggression, I think he does chk this a fair amount
Maybe, with respect to not c/r'ing, I did consider QQ too much.
RISEorFall
QUOTE (Actuary @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:07 PM) *
If the Q had not come, I put him on QQ as often as a flush.
FLop action was not flush like, as well

thats still flawed. thered be 3 combos for QQ and a ton more for a flush or AA or KK

and people dont cap the flop in position for what they think is a free card on the turn?
Actuary
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:12 PM) *
thats still flawed. thered be 3 combos for QQ and a ton more for a flush or AA or KK

and people dont cap the flop in position for what they think is a free card on the turn?


you are correct
I don't consider the cap for a free card enough
RISEorFall
QUOTE (Actuary @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:24 PM) *
you are correct
I don't consider the cap for a free card enough


even if you discount the flush, there are more combos of AA or KK than of QQ
Actuary
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, May 21st, 2007, 4:30 PM) *
even if you discount the flush, there are more combos of AA or KK than of QQ


but the action is more QQ than AA/KK, obv, even counting the AsAx, KsKx
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