Jam-Fly
Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 8:00 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
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Hero (t13226)
UTG (t4723)
MP (t3809)
Button (t4511)
SB (t10409)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

, Q

.
2 folds,
Button raises to t625,
SB raises to t1625, Hero ???
Table was fairly tight. Button made a few raises like this. SB typical tightish player. No real solid reads tbh.
My image is aggressive and relatively tight.
So what does everyone do here?
Zach6668
Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 9:37 PM
Easiest.
Shove.
Ever.
(imo)
YBravo
Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 1:37 AM)

Easiest.
Shove.
Ever.
(imo)
Hand ranges are pretty big for both, even at a tight table. You're crushing their ranges, so shove seems good. You're going to raise, so you can't really raise to like 3k-4k without committing yourself to putting the rest of your stack in on the flop. Plus shoving pre-flop gives you a more dangerous image, and I think we can even get the SB to fold A-K here.
Zach6668
Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 11:16 PM
QUOTE (YBravo @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 3:09 AM)

...and I think we can even get the SB to fold A-K here.
ding ding ding
Jam-Fly
Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 1:40 AM
Wow, didn't think it was that easy of a shove. I moved all in because I thought I coudl get AK and maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe even KK to fold.
Does anything have anything to say for folding? I was the big stack and was pretty much cruising at a nice table. Also, the money was less than 20 spots away so maybe that influenced me in a few ways (1- I wanted to make the money obv, 2 - I felt I could bully on the bubble better with a big stack).
There wasn't too many reraises pre flop so I put SB's range to be TT+ and AQ+ and button's range to be 55+ and A8+ and KJ+. I guess looking at it a few hrs later it seems like an easier shove, but I still don't think it was as clear cut as you make it out to be
tskillz187
Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 6:59 AM
There is no way you get KK to fold, just none. I would say you possibly get AK to fold, but not sure it's close. I think you have to raise though the buttons stack doesn't hurt you too bad so it's all about SB. His raise looks like he might be scared of a button push but doesn't want him to be stealing your blinds over and over. Or he has a monster, lol. But I can't really be scared of that when I'm holding QQ.
cubbybri
Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 7:56 AM
Ranges are huge. If you got KK or AA in there, tough luck. At least you have chips left.