Last night, me and 3 friends went to AC to play some poker. Our fakes worked great haha. Anyway I had a couple difficult spots. Heres one.

10 handed, blinds 1$, 2$

I am BB with 400$
SB has 300$

3 people limp including SB. I make it 17 with KK. everyone folds to SB who calls. SB is an old loose player, not a maniac just pretty loose.

Flop:

6 J J, no flush draw. He bets out 15$. I call. Turn Q. He bets out 40$. Whats my play here??



2nd hand

7 handed

I am UTG with around 700$
BB has about 150$

I raise to 10$ preflop with AK. 3 people call including BB.

Flop A Q 3. BB bets out 10$. I make it 40$. Folds to BB who is a fat black lady who talks a bunch of ****. She puts on a big speech, then says, Im looking to go home anyway and goes all in for another 100$. Whats my play here??


A couple more hands ill post later.

I think raising the flop in the first hand would make it incredibly easier to play.

Hand 1 is played far to passively for my liking post flop. By not raising flop we've put ourself in a tough spot. Any reads on his calling range from sb? he could have anything here, folding is way too weak. I probably put in a raise to like $100 and fold a shove

Hand 2 i wouldnt be surprised to see aces up here, i lean towards folding but this is 1/2 live, so i could call there

1) Raise
2) Call

hand 1 i assuming u flat call the 15 as a slowplay or soemthing? real weird play. id prob raise to 120 here...

hand 2 go with ur read, if u think she really wants to go home then call...if u think she wants u to call then fold.

hand 1 i misplayed and ended up donk calling down, river was low and i called that, he showed AJ. in a vacuum, i fold this on turn knowing the player, as i was pretty sure he had trips. It was one of those sessions that Negreanu had on HSP 2 where i had to make so many big lay downs that i just called down steamed that this couldnt be another lay down I had to make.

Hand 2, I folded and she showed Q3. This hand happened before hand 1 too, and was one of like 7 laydowns I had to make. Thats the main reason I don't like 10 handed compared to heads up and 6 handed. I feel 10 handed people bluff so much less thats its more about the hands you make big folds rather then the hands you make big calls. And since I am an action junkie and a calling station, this doesnt suit well for me at all.

Here another hand

Hand 3:

Very early on in the session against a monster fish who wont ever fold a hand and is huge slowplay happy, in general doesnt understand the game at all.

10 handed
Fish-cutoff-over 300$
Me-BB-300$

Folds around to fish who makes it 8$. I call with 57 diamonds.

Flop
2D, 3D, 5x

Whats action? Also, I am 90% sure he has an overpair here 10 10 to AA based on physical tells and betting.

Roberts,

One the first hand, why didn't you put in a raise on the flop? If he repops, easy muck, if he calls, you can try to keep the pot small and consider calling a river bet. I don't think you have enough information that you are behind on the flop lead alone.

Please wait more than 5 hours to post results.

1st hand raise the flop. As played, call the turn, but fold to a reasonable river bet.
2nd hand beware of the speech. I can't think of a time where I have seen a bluff preceded by a 'big' speech.

Zach is right about the JJx flop. If you raise the flop and he sticks around, the hand become very transparent. As played, most players are not firing that 2nd bullet INTO the preflop raiser without the J, so you can almost just muck on the turn if you really wanted, but raising the flop makes life much easier.

ON the 2nd hand, just beware the "I'm ready go to home" speech becuase it almost always means trouble for you. You just have to decide if AK is better than her "send me home" hand. Most of the time it's not going to be.

3rd hand - I make a small bet, about 1/2 pot. If villain likes to slowplay, he'll probably just call and you won't get raised off of your hand.

1st hand - I agree with Acid_Knight. Raise the flop, and if villain pushes or leads into you on the turn, then you can safely fold your hand.

I've seen the results.

Say we're the villain in hand 1 with a hand that has no showdown value. The hero raises us on the flop. Do we figure him for a jack? Isn't our play to come back over the top?

If the villian raises the flop bet, do we re-raise or just call. If we hit on the turn, lead or CR?

I'd probably call since I don't think villain will fold, based on reads. If we hit on the turn I'd lead hoping villain will at least call, or raise. If we check villain might slowplay some more and might check behind, going by what op has told us. Turn play depends a lot on reads.

I like SCS's suggestion here of betting 1/2 pot. The goal here is to make the bets after we hit as large as possible. If thought we could get the pot from 16 to all-in by checking, we should do that. But surely he's not that crazy?

Against a good player we should be making a play to try get him to fold his overpair.

You dont consider cr-ing this flop? If we're sure he is on an overpair he is betting and calling a raise

I don't want to put a ton of money in on the flop. We're just flipping a coin at this point, so I don't show any profit by betting here. But if he'll call after he's drawing dead (and OP's description indicates that he will), then I'm making pure profit.

I'd c/r if I thought he might fold some hands, which I doubt he will according to ops description. Our draw isn't big enough to build a huge pot with just yet.

1st hand - I would be inclined to raise on the flop. It makes it easier to play. As played I would just call the turn unless he's the type who would stack off with a weak hand (A6, Qx, etc), in which case you should obviously raise. On the river, if they bet I would play it the same as the turn. If they check I value bet.

2nd hand - I call without a specific read. She's too short to fold.

He's not folding so unless you want to gamble you check/call until you improve. Once you improve you bet the hell out of it.

Yeah, this is definetly the best play against a slowplaying calling station. We have the best of both worlds, since he'll let us hit our draw cheaply and will probably pay us off when we do hit.

Hand #1 It could be mw to post this hand. Dont want to raise but also dont want to just call AND dont want to fold. HMMM
I think the majority says Raise the Flop.

Hand #2 I definetly lay down my AK. The fat lady saw bet, raise and now she pushes against two Live players, who has shown strength. No deep think required. I read once an article from an Professional Poker player. He said Top Players dont go to war with TPTK. I think you should just fold.

Hand #3 If you wouldnt know this player I would lead out with a small bet (1/2pot), just on the theory that this flop is very likely to have not helped him. But you say you are very sure he had an Overpair. So I think the best way is to check-call this flop (unless he bets way too large). Because if you want to lead out at this flop, you would make it on the theory that you have some fold equity. Which you dont have because of your opponent and the hand you put him on.

Yeah this is the best advice, and is what I did. I check called flop and turn, which he bet very small with a fake look of weakness on his face, not realizing i had 17 outs to bust him. Of course I didnt hit, and i folded river and he proudly showed KK. It really is AMAZING how bad some people are at casinos.

And people wonder why their aces or kings always get cracked.


The great thing about this hand is that if you did hit, not only would he have paid you off, you probably would have tilted him because you played "bad cards", which would have caused him to play even worse on future hands. I love doing that to these types of players.