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shrimp4789
Blinds are now $0.05/$0.10

MP3 - $8.40
CO - $10.55
Button - $9.11
SB - $10.54
Hero - $11.58
UTG - $19.45
UTG +1 - $9.56
MP1 - $10 (posts as 1st hand at table)
MP2 - $15.16

Hero has K icon_suit_spade.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif
2 fold
1 check
2 fold
CO $0.10
1 folds
SB calls $0.10
Hero raises to $0.40
MP1 calls $0.40
CO calls $0.40
SB folds

Pot = $1.30

Flop is K icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_diamond.gif
Hero bets out?.......

Now, MP1 is a very weak fish. Loves to play any 2 cards and raises dont matter. Co I dont have much reads on. I raised preflop just to try and get rid of those with small cards, suited connectors, etc. The way I seen this one, was 2nd pr with nut flush draw, if I continue my aggression from preflop theres a good chance i can take this down right here with a pot sized bet.......am i way off this one?
Snamuh
I bet out 1.00 and shove to a raise.
Acid_Knight
You should always lead at this pot.
dms26
I would lead also, but not with the intention of taking it down, if anyone has an ace in their hand they will probably call. But you'll some money in the pot for when you do hit your draw. Because I've heard that happens 1/3 of the time. Also your trips outs are most likely good and possible 2 pair.
sixsixtie
I hate the monotone board. If you had KQ diamond on a two diamond board I like the hammer better. But this spot you have 0 fold equity against a better hand.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (sixsixtie @ Thursday, May 3rd, 2007, 1:42 PM) *
I hate the monotone board. If you had KQ diamond on a two diamond board I like the hammer better. But this spot you have 0 fold equity against a better hand.

Do you even know what fold equity is? Not being an ass, but from your post it seems that you misunderstand what it is.
Snamuh
QUOTE (sixsixtie @ Thursday, May 3rd, 2007, 4:42 PM) *
I hate the monotone board. If you had KQ diamond on a two diamond board I like the hammer better. But this spot you have 0 fold equity against a better hand.


I think he has more fold equity because of the monotone board actually, as a weak ace would be more likely to fold.
lostless
QUOTE (Snamuh @ Thursday, May 3rd, 2007, 3:10 PM) *
I think he has more fold equity because of the monotone board actually, as a weak ace would be more likely to fold.


Do you really thing a "very weak fish" is laying down a weak ace on this board.

Hero bets out none the less. There are a bazillion holdings he calls with that you beat.
Snamuh
QUOTE (lostless @ Thursday, May 3rd, 2007, 6:47 PM) *
Do you really thing a "very weak fish" is laying down a weak ace on this board.

Hero bets out none the less. There are a bazillion holdings he calls with that you beat.


MP1 doesn't need to have the ace. You get fold equity on the CO holding AQ-AT or any weaker ace.
shrimp4789
with a raise 4x preflop showing strength, I dont know if anyone would call down with a weak ace, as these types of raises can be anything from Ak-A9, KQ-K10, QJ, maybe Q10 if mixing it up, any medium pocket pair...........

Given those who im up against actually think before acting, I think they would realise more times than not, they are beat in some way or another.

Think of it this way,

Say you hold As4c

you call the 4x raise preflop and "hope to get lucky". Flop comes as it did, and person who raised preflop leads out a strong bet.....how likely are you to stay in the hand?
dms26
QUOTE (shrimp4789 @ Thursday, May 3rd, 2007, 7:26 PM) *
you call the 4x raise preflop and "hope to get lucky". Flop comes as it did, and person who raised preflop leads out a strong bet.....how likely are you to stay in the hand?


If he's bad enough to call the raise with A4 and hits his ace, what makes you think he's just gonna give it up so easily? The majority of people at lower limits get very attached to top pair
danau
As played I probably try and get as much money in as possible, but I don't like the pf raise from the blinds
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