Acid_Knight
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2007, 8:04 AM
QUOTE (throwemaway @ Wednesday, May 2nd, 2007, 8:48 AM)

Man I might be nitty but I almost always check behind here with 3 players in front..This is very likely board for someone to set on and be looking to c/r..If I bet and get raised here, I have to do 1 of 2 things, neither of which I like..I'll have to play the draw extremely aggressive by 3 betting and thus, IMO, overplaying an OESD...Or I have to give up the lead and play it passively in a bloated pot, where I can basically only win by hitting on the turn..If we bet, get raised, and then call on the flop, chances are the villain is going to pot the turn and price us out..In that case, I think its better to check here because it gives us a better chance of seeing both the turn and river..
Also, I never raise this preflop
Couple of important notes to consider regarding your post:
1. This is SH NLHE, so the range of hands of his opponents is not the quality range that it would be at a full ring game
2. Raising hands like this in position is almost necessary at higher limits so that people can't effectively narrow down your range of hands too much. It allows you to make big hands that your opponents can't put you on, as well as represent other big hands becuase you raised preflop and took the lead.
3. The other points that you made regarding bloating the pot and maintaining the lead are accurate and are good points.
I also think this hand becomes much harder to play if we give up the lead in the hand, especially when we have position.
The fact is that there just aren't a ton of hands that really nail that flop. The only OESDs are the one that the Hero holds (Nut OESD), the 79 and the 57. There are no flush draws. Players with hands like JT, QJ and KJ are gonna have a hard time withstanding much heat with their hand. Making a c-bet here is a solid move. It's also fairly safe to assume that most players are raising 88 or JJ at a 5 handed table. Pocket 6s might have limped in there, but fearing sets with no action taking place is just looking for monsters under the bed.