if you can't profile him daniel can you just reply giving his NLH rating its gotta be a 10!

Patricnz...

I don't think there is a bigger fan of Layne Flack than me. However, I seriously doubt that Daniel will give Layne a rating of 10 for No Limit Holdem. Layne is good and when focused, appears to be great. But a 10? Even I don't think so.

he gave gus a 9.5 i believe layne is better than gus ,all of the pros except a few are very very close
but layne has the edge over them, its like he has a sixth sense for the game he was born to play it

When Layne is on... I agree he is a 10. But he lacks paitence and focus from time to time and that is what gets him in trouble.

In my book, Layne will always be a 10, but if I am thinking objectively, I am not sure I could say a 10. An 8, a 9... sure. A 10...hmm, though I would love to give it to him, I just can't. (Watch the US 2004 World Championships. You will see him do some stupid things and he looked bored or unfocused. It wasn't bad beats like D'Agastino or like the bad beats Layne went through in Aruba.)

hellmuth article

i think this guy is a clown. i think if this guy wasnt friends with poker players who probaly regularly stake him he would be working at mcdonalds. i bet u he is broke. from what i have heard and read about him he sounds like a degenrate gambler

^^^^he has a wife and kids i doubt hes doing that bad.

If you read the latest cardplayer article on Layne Flack, you would know that he no longer plays Omaha due to his creative play.

what does that have to do with anything?

He still gave gus a 9 Layne deserves a 9.5, I saw that layne started chip leader of the tournament and busted out before the end of the show it was horrible lots of misfortune but he doent need cards to win hes layne

i never knew he had so many cashes. they are listed in that cardplayer article. Im just guessing that mr flack has pissed away a ton of money in his time but what a player!

I am sure when most top players are on they are a ten.I heard flack is in debt to the tune of millions.I guess thats life of a TOP PRO

Theresa, darlin', gonna have to disagree with you on there not bein' a bigger Layne Flack fan than you. :-)

ahhhhh theres two of them

kinda scary :-)

Thats funny. A while ago, I saw Layne playing Thomas Keller on Full Tilt, heads up 200/400 Omaha hi/lo split for 2-3 nights. If that guy has given up playing Omaha, then Hellmuth has given up being a jack ass lol

Here is the quote from the Cardplayer Article:



Here is a link to the entire article:

http://cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archi....php?a_id=14585

Hey... maybe he has the same relationship with Omaha as I have to chocolate. I always say I am not going to eat any, but then I go to the mall, I see Godiva and then I cave.

Don't get me wrong, Layne Flack is a very good no limit player, but to say that he is better than Gus Hansen is seriously pushing things. They both play very aggressive, but the difference is that Gus has better reads and math to back it up.

You are wrong Laynes a freak when it comes to reading people you musn't have seen him play before or else you wouldn't have posted that

i would like daniels opinion on this

which player has the superior reading ability

Layne or Gus?

I absolutely LOVE to watch Layne play poker. I started playing myself because of Layne (I was watching it on TV for a couple of years, then I saw Layne, then I wanted to play too.)

I also totally agree that Layne is awesome at reading people. His issue though, seems to be that he will still stay in even though there is no way the winning hand will leave the action. I have watched him successfully steal pots but I have also watched him call with crap and bluff when the other person had the nuts. I am sure other tops pros have done this as well, but sometimes it just seems like Layne can not lay any hand down.

That being said... when Layne is in control and he is manipulating the table, he is unstoppable.

Granted... I think I have seen Layne play 5 or 6 times and then a few times online. So my oppinion really doesn't count for anything.

I don't think any of us will ever know how great Gus, Layne or even Daniel is unless if we are at the table with them. One thing I am certain is that all three will take my money with no effort at all.

Anyway... Layne does have something that few of the other Pros have and that is sex appeal.

ive seen him on 20 or more occasions lay down strong hands immediately to the likes of phil ivey when they hold the best hand
just because he can read his opponents so well


p.s thearesa he has bad teeth

Other players wait until they can trap Flack and Hansen, I just think Hansen is better at putting opponents on hands. Flack is still a great player, I just think Hansen is at another level.

their is no level above layne when hes playing his best

Johhny Chan and Phil Hellmuth say he is the best NLH player their is when hes at his best you cant argue with them they would actually know

i dont see any articles fom pros saying how amazing gus hansen is

http://www.philhellmuth.com/hand_of_the_we...ek.php?howid=41

I'm not really pulling for anyone to say either Gus or Layne is better, but the link you provided doesn't prove anything except that Layne's opponent in that hand was incredibly bad.

I didn't read the article i typed in AMzing Layne Flack on google and that came up

thanks for your input much appreciated

if you look this topic Proile Layne Flack has had more views than some of the other actual profiles and more replies aswell

that is a good indicator that the people want flack

has marcel luske won 5 WSOP bracelets in 4 or 5 years at the WSOP?

Yes, let's just forget Daniel's system for how he creates profiles and do it the way you suggested.

sounds good :wink:


i know your being sarcastic if you didnt realise i realised that already

I think we need to know the context before you can come to that conclusion. When did they say these things about Layne, was in pre Hanson era? Was this before Layne fell off the map for a while?

I think Layne might have the better reads when he's on, but Hanson is consistently on his game, so I would say Hansen.

Did anyone watch the WPT last night? Season 1 with Ivey, Bloch, Lederer and [b][size=13]Layne Flack?



I thought Layne played this well even though he came in 2nd. Howard was getting awesome cards heads up.

I have always loved this episode.

Johhny chan watched him play and taught layne heaps let him sit behind him while he played

chan saw how much potential layne had

of course layne was off his game and hes going to make a comeback he only got out of rehab in late 2004 i believe accroding to that cardplayer article

Gus wins the odd tournament hes a below average for a pro cash game player according to daniel negreanu giving him a 5 or something

apart from 3 WPT titles what has he got

layne has a WPT title a second and 5 WSOP bracelets(in 5 years at WSOP) 3 in no limit holdem and 1 in limit holdem

gus doesnt come close to those "consistent" results

boy i really sound like a real fanboy but i assure you im not i just to aspire to be as good as him one day

yeah i got in on bit torrent made a copy onto a dvd

great final table 3 of the top 10 no limit holdem players in the world at the table

Hansen is clearly a better cash game player so i'm not even going there, but this is about NLH. Hansen has not played for as long as Flack, and has played in no where near as many WSOP tourneys. I'm not saying that Flack is not a great player, I just think that Hansen is better.

ok

your opinion but its stupid

Your's is simply an opinion too, you don't look for a list of facts on a message board.

You can't deal with someone who has a different opinion, so you call that opinion stupid? Not very mature.

Maybe you can't understand imnot being serious of course hes aloud an opinion and my opinion causes me to think his opinion is stupid< most people dont say that part but i feel its neccesary to get my opinion across

have a nice day :wink:

Well, if he's 15 like he said himself...

Anyone out there have an email address or physical mailing address for Mr. Flack?

Thanks :-)

since 1999

5WSOP bracelets 4 in Holdem
1 WPT title and 2 seconds one second where he got his money in with 99 vs 22 and got outdrawn so more like 2 WPT titles it should be

im not being a fanboy here its just really impressive

so who can argue with those tournament results

not even Negreanu can knock those results

Layne Flack is definately awesome player, has always been one of my favorite players. I'll have to check that WPT Aruba for like 10th time, just great episode.