rgold79
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:00 AM
Sounds like a horrible, horrible tragedy.
Over 20+ people killed by what appears to have been a lone gunman. Every major news organization is covering. Check cnn.com or nytimes.com for more details as not everything is known yet.
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:00 AM
Haven't watched the news lately, what happened?
LongLiveYorke
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:04 AM
According to the Times:
Virginia Tech Shooting Kills at Least 20
By CHRISTINE HAUSER and ANAHAD O’CONNOR
Published: April 16, 2007
At least 20 people were killed today, some of them students, and more were injured during shootings at Virginian Tech University, some of them at a classroom on the campus, the police said. The gunman was also shot to death, officials said at a news conference, but details about the incident and about the identity of the gunman were still unfolding.
“Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions,” said the university’s president, Charles Steger.
There were two shootings, and in each case fatalities with “multiple shooting victims,” he said.
A police official said there were “at least 20 fatalities,” and that some of the victims were shot in the classroom. News of the number of the fatalities sent up an audible gasp in the news conference, said on television reporter in the broadcast.
The shooting was partially captured on a student’s cellphone video camera showing grainy black figures on the street outside of campus buildings. Popping sounds from the gunfire were audible.
“This place is in a state of panic,” said a student who was interviewed on CNN, Shaver Deyerle. “Nobody knew what was going on at first.”
A few details emerged from the news conference. At 7:15 a.m., an emergency 911 call came in to University police department about a shooting at a campus building, and then another call reported a shooting in Norris hall. The shooter there is deceased, the police said.
kidpkrJR
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:06 AM
I was just reading about this, such a tragedy.... it is so sickening that people have to be afraid of going to school because of sickos like this guy.
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:08 AM
Wow, I just read CNN. That is horrible. Can't imagine what would ever possess someone to do something so terrible to innocent people.
SBriand
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:20 AM
It's a crazy world. We have two shootings in SE Michigan last week a day apart and now this.
Ukosumu
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:23 AM
How bad does life have to get to radomly take the lives of 20+ people?
LongLiveYorke
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:25 AM
To quote the late and great:
...there is nothing intelligent to say about a massacre. Everybody is supposed to be dead, to never say anything or want anything ever again. Everything is supposed to be very quiet after a massacre, and it always is, except for the birds. And what do the birds say? All there is to say about a massacre, things like "Poo-tee-weet?"
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:27 AM
Yeah no doubt. I understand some people have had **** go wrong in their lives, some of it is their own fault, some of it isnt. I can understand being pissed off at the world, but how sick do you have to be to walk to a college campus and take the lives of 20+ college students because your pissed off.
I am convinced the human race will eventually wipe each other out, because we always resort to violence.
bdc30
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:30 AM
cnn.com has cell phone video from a student in the area when it was happening. You can't see much, just cops moving in, but you can hear the shooting, and a ton of it.
Second shooting on the Va. Tech campus this year. You'd think they'd turn the place in to a fortress, but really, how can you protect every public place...
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:37 AM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 12:30 PM)

cnn.com has cell phone video from a student in the area when it was happening. You can't see much, just cops moving in, but you can hear the shooting, and a ton of it.
Second shooting on the Va. Tech campus this year. You'd think they'd turn the place in to a fortress, but really, how can you protect every public place...
You really can't. Its not like high school or middle school, when you can just secure the one building as a preventive measure. College campuses are easy targets because they are so wide open and spread out. To a shooter, the students are easy unsuspecting targets and often times, when a situation like this happens, the chaos that ensues, makes it difficult for law enforcement and campus security to grasp what has happened.
Just sickening when you hear things like this
maxfallon
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:42 AM
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 12:37 PM)

You really can't. Its not like high school or middle school, when you can just secure the one building as a preventive measure. College campuses are easy targets because they are so wide open and spread out. To a shooter, the students are easy unsuspecting targets and often times, when a situation like this happens, the chaos that ensues, makes it difficult for law enforcement and campus security to grasp what has happened.
Just sickening when you hear things like this
this is really sad....why dont people like this jus kill themselves it is so sick. its confirmed that he killed 32 people. RIP
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:45 AM
Its scary as a college student to read stories like this. Makes me think how easily someone could do that at my school and myself and many others would be completely defenseless.
maxfallon
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:48 AM
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 12:45 PM)

Its scary as a college student to read stories like this. Makes me think how easily someone could do that at my school and myself and many others would be completely defenseless.
yeah you hit it right on when you said how college campuses are so wide open and then the chaos that ensues makes it so hard for the police and security to figure it out. its sayin on the news that a couple people were killed in a dorm....then one hour later he continued his rampage.
king_tanner
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:49 AM
This sucks, it can happen anywhere which is really scary.
rgold79
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:53 AM
QUOTE (maxfallon @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:42 PM)

this is really sad....why dont people like this jus kill themselves it is so sick. its confirmed that he killed 32 people. RIP
Is 32 a typo? The Times right now is saying 22. Just wondering if you read a higher number reported somewhere else.
ratwastard
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:53 AM
jeezus christ! what a waste of good people. why the hell didn't the shooter go to some bad part of town and waste some undesirables instead
ya know like some welfare mom with 15 kids
bdc30
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:54 AM
QUOTE (rgold79 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:53 AM)

Is 32 a typo? The Times right now is saying 22. Just wondering if you read a higher number reported somewhere else.
22 is what CNN and MSNBC are both saying as well.
maxfallon
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:55 AM
yeah im watchin the news right on Fox. also FBI is investigating whether it could be a possible terrorist attack...doesnt sound too likely that it was to me though. guess that is probably why i am not in the FBI
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:56 AM
QUOTE (ratwastard @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 12:53 PM)

jeezus christ! what a waste of good people. why the hell didn't the shooter go to some bad part of town and waste some undesirables instead
ya know like some welfare mom with 15 kids
Come on man, thats not needed. Its a tragedy regardless of who was killed. Its sad that some people feel that there is nothing left of their lives and they go commit a senseless act of violence like this. Horrible horrible
fryer98
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 9:59 AM
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:45 PM)

Its scary as a college student a person that goes to any public place to read stories like this.
That's the way I see it.
myenemy
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (maxfallon @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:55 PM)

yeah im watchin the news right on Fox. also FBI is investigating whether it could be a possible terrorist attack...doesnt sound too likely that it was to me though. guess that is probably why i am not in the FBI
This was the first thing I thought. Seems like a very simple and effective way to kill a lot of people and strike terror.
I just saw a report that the shooter was a "college-age" asian male.
Does anyone have confirmation on 32? Far as I know its 22, with 4 injured.
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:02 AM
Well yeah, its scary for everyone, but when you go to a big university like Va Tech, you just get to thinking how it could happen on your campus tomorrow and you have no way of preventing it. I understand that it could happen anywhere, all I'm saying is when you live on college campus and hear a story like this, it scares the **** ouf of ya.
I go to the university of Iowa and we've actually had a campus shooting before, so it really struck home.
maxfallon
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:03 AM
QUOTE (myenemy @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:01 PM)

This was the first thing I thought. Seems like a very simple and effective way to kill a lot of people and strike terror.
I just saw a report that the shooter was a "college-age" asian male.
Does anyone have confirmation on 32? Far as I know its 22, with 4 injured.
could be a homegrown terrorist i guess....there are definitely crazy people who convert to islam and become violent lunatics.
wsox8
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (myenemy @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:01 PM)

This was the first thing I thought. Seems like a very simple and effective way to kill a lot of people and strike terror.
I just saw a report that the shooter was a "college-age" asian male.
Does anyone have confirmation on 32? Far as I know its 22, with 4 injured.
MSNBC has 22 dead, 28 injured, suspect dead.
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:06 AM
QUOTE (Scanner313 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:00 PM)

What kind of retard pushes his cards past the line without flipping them over? Was he waiting for the dealer to flip them for him? The dumbass should have gotten nothing just for making such a stupid move.
QUOTE (wsox8 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:05 PM)

MSNBC has 22 dead, 28 injured, suspect dead.
Thats all I've seen as well
bigkg
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:08 AM
I must admit, as a college student, this is very scary. I'm watching the footage on CNN right now, and this is horrible.
myenemy
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:08 AM
QUOTE (maxfallon @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 2:03 PM)

could be a homegrown terrorist i guess....there are definitely crazy people who convert to islam and become violent lunatics.
My thoughts now are that its not a terrorist attack but it certainly is terrifying. Honestly, why cant these nuts just blow their own brains out like a normal person? What does one have to gain by killing all these others? Just sick. What do these people think they're playing a F*ing video game?
maxfallon
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:09 AM
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:06 PM)

Thats all I've seen as well
confirmed on Fox news 32 people dead....im watchin it live dont think they lie
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:09 AM
QUOTE (myenemy @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:08 PM)

My thoughts now are that its not a terrorist attack but it certainly is terrifying. Honestly, why cant these nuts just blow their own brains out like a normal person? What does one have to gain by killing all these others? Just sick. What do these people think they're playing a F*ing video game?
They just have no regard for human life
ratwastard
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Gunman was a heavily armed Asian man according to reports
myenemy
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:12 AM
QUOTE (maxfallon @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 2:09 PM)

confirmed on Fox news 32 people dead....im watchin it live dont think they lie
http://www.foxnews.com/I suppose this COULD be a typo...
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:12 AM
QUOTE (ratwastard @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:09 PM)

Gunman was a heavily armed Asian man according to reports
What sites are you guys reading/watching. I've been reading CNN and Yahoo, but haven't seen any other updated reports
wsox8
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:12 PM)

What sites are you guys reading/watching. I've been reading CNN and Yahoo, but haven't seen any other updated reports
I was watching MSNBC and CNN on tv and they said it there.
bdc30
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (maxfallon @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:09 AM)

confirmed on Fox news 32 people dead....im watchin it live dont think they lie
Fox news is synonymous with fear mongering and false reporting.
Google "Outfoxed - Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism"
They're the ONLY network saying 32 dead and even MENTIONING the word terrorism.
Do you think CNN and MSNBC are that far "behind"??
Fox has an agenda.
iowahawk09
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:16 PM)

Fox news is synonymous with fear mongering and false reporting.
Google "Outfoxed - Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism"
They're the ONLY network saying 32 dead and even MENTIONING the word terrorism.
Do you think CNN and MSNBC are that far "behind"??
Fox has an agenda.
Fox is notorious for poor reporting, but I didn't know if it was showing up anywhere else as well
maxfallon
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:23 AM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 1:16 PM)

Fox news is synonymous with fear mongering and false reporting.
Google "Outfoxed - Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism"
They're the ONLY network saying 32 dead and even MENTIONING the word terrorism.
Do you think CNN and MSNBC are that far "behind"??
Fox has an agenda.
fear mongering....haha okk well i dont really watch fox all the time or anything it jus happened to be on in the other room, usually the tv is on CNN . but thanks for the update
flyingdonkey
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:28 AM
MSNBC now has the death toll at 31
fryer98
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:30 AM
From
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07106/778468-100.stm"Everyone is saying that there was this guy who went there and shot his girlfriend and then shot the [residence assistant] who stepped in and reacted to the shooting," Mr. Dillie said.
bdc30
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:31 AM
CNN now says 31 dead. The number I am sure will go higher with the 29 injured in hospital.
speedz99
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:30 AM)

From
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07106/778468-100.stm"Everyone is saying that there was this guy who went there and shot his girlfriend and then shot the [residence assistant] who stepped in and reacted to the shooting," Mr. Dillie said.
Had to figure it started with a domestic incident...one dorm shooting that turns into a rampage.
Now I'd just like to know how the f
uck the school wasn't shut the h
ell down IMMEDIATELY after the first shooting. How could they possibly keep that campus open with the shooter on the loose so that two f
ucking hours later he kills 30 more people?
bdc30
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:44 AM
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:40 AM)

Had to figure it started with a domestic incident...one dorm shooting that turns into a rampage.
Now I'd just like to know how the fuck the school wasn't shut the hell down IMMEDIATELY after the first shooting. How could they possibly keep that campus open with the shooter on the loose so that two fucking hours later he kills 30 more people?
I was thinking the exact same thing.
grocery_mony
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Sickening. I cant believe evil people like this exsist. Burn in hell you fckin loser.
speedz99
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:05 AM
QUOTE
go to george mason university where i am a freshmen. over 50 kids from my graduating high school class goes to Virginia tech, including my best friend. i was just there this past weekend to visit them.drove back yesterday. two of my buddies that live in west AJ where the one shooting occurred told me they heard the gunshots this morning. they later told me they heard the guy lined up a bunch of people in the hall and started to ask where his girlfriend was and if they said they didn't know he just shot them.. dont know if this was in the dorm or the academic building though. he didn't say. Another one of my close friends was in Norris hall during the huge shooting. He was on the other side of the building when it occurred and got out ok. being in college now i can not imagine that **** happening on my campus.
pauld22
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:06 AM
I have applications in all over WNY trying to get a job as a teacher. This kind of crap scares the hell out of me to even try to discipline kids.
strategy
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Where did you get that, speedz?
Jadaki
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:22 AM
QUOTE
two of my buddies that live in west AJ where the one shooting occurred told me they heard the gunshots this morning. they later told me they heard the guy lined up a bunch of people in the hall and started to ask where his girlfriend was and if they said they didn't know he just shot them..
Behind every twisted gunman is a woman pulling the trigger...
I keed, I keed...
kinda
speedz99
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:29 AM
QUOTE (strategy @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:09 AM)

Where did you get that, speedz?
America's greatest news source...nwp.
strategy
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:32 AM
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:22 AM)

Behind every twisted gunman is a woman pulling the trigger...
I keed, I keed...
kinda
QFE
(quoted for evidence)
MyPlayIsRAB
Monday, April 16th, 2007, 11:37 AM
its incidents like this that make me happy i live in canada. im not trying to rag on americans, but this stuff just would never happen in canada.. our mentality towards guns and violence is so much different. we have had scattered incidents as well, but in a country of 35 million its quite impossible for it to 'never' happen.. just with such infrequency it never crosses our minds that it coldu happen to us
im not trying to seem like i dont care that this happens, because it saddens me to knwo that so many people died for no reason..i just dont feel the insecurity that americans do on a daily basis.
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