Hero: +/- $850 in chips

Villan: 3500 in chips drunk as a skunk and playing crazy. He bought in for $2000 when he arrived and lost it in 15 minutes no joke betting $400-500 after almost any flop and raising it to $100 or so pre Flop.

Villian stradles on the button for $25

Folded to hero in 5th position with A K

Hero makes it $80 to go

Folded to Villian who calls

Flop Q 10 6

Hero bets out $125

Villian calls and the $125 and raises another $500

Hero ???????????

Wait for a better spot. It's coming. I promise.

Hero calls a string raise because, once the villain calls the $125, he cannot raise.

Then the dealer pushes back the $500 raise, and he deals the turn card.

Bah, I wrote a whole thing up about having to face a big turn bet as well, but if you're calling $500 more, it's only like $25 more or so for you to shove. So he's essentially putting you in.

I'm going to assume we have $650 left.

This means there's 855+125+80= $1060 in the pot already (assuming he's calling our shove for $150 more.)

We're getting $1060 to $650 to call here. So, you need 38% equity.

In our 2nd best case scenario, for example, him having top pair, with no cards blocking our pair outs or straights, aka Q7o, we have 36% equity.

Basically, I'm saying fold. If you think he's making this move with less than ace high, then ok. If he has KdJd, our worst non-pair scenario, we're about 69.8%.

Say he has a real hand, vs a set, we're 13%.

Put it all together: TT,66,KJs,Q2s+,J9s,KJo,Q2o+,J9o, we're 38%. Which is break even. Obviously some of this has to be weighted different, and other hands added, but it boils down to your read of how crazy you think he is playing.

Telling the OP that he's getting almost 2:1 is misleading him in a big way. You misunderstand the concept of pot odds if you think that this is true.

And, if he did have ten outs, making him about a 1 1/2:1 underdog, and if he was getting almost 2:1 on his bet, he should put the money in the pot. But your answer, as far as the odds are concerned is wrong.

No, you're right, that was a typo before I realized stack sizes, and that he was effectively all in.

Hero has bet 200 of his 850, leaving him 650 (as you calculated). He still has 150 in addition to the 500 raise. (80 + 125 + 500 + 150 = 855). So a shove is 150, not 25. I think you counted the 125 twice. Or I'm just tired. I like the rest of it.

Bah, anything is possible, I'm completely tired as well.

You know what, I don't know why I wrote that, but if you see the calculations further down, I used the number $650 as the effective call, so all my numbers are right.

Yep. It's irrelevant once we know we're pot-committed. I'm apparently being the irrelevant fact police.

I agree with your analysis. If we think his range includes less than ace high, then we make the call.

When you have drunks in your game, you gotta make some kind of hand IMO before you take them on. Yeah, AK was pretty and you missed the flop and got raised. You could be winning, but I doubt it. Just wait for another spot.