egbert is the hero. this wasn't me. ignore the preflop play and the odd call on the flop. i'm only interested in rationales for and against check raising the turn here. sorry about no converter, this is all of the history i have and online converters dont seem to want to take it. results in white. thanks in advance.

Dealt to egbert42 [3h As Jh 6s]
BigDingo folds
putzpoker folds
scottyboy727 calls $1
nubktobk calls $1
imaBOFH folds
Feed My Eyes folds
drei26 calls $1
egbert42 calls $0.50
JabbaDaFlop checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Qs Tc]
egbert42 checks
JabbaDaFlop bets $1
scottyboy727 folds
nubktobk calls $1
drei26 calls $1
egbert42 calls $1
*** TURN *** [4h Qs Tc 2s]
egbert42 checks
JabbaDaFlop bets $2
nubktobk folds
drei26 raises to $4
egbert42 calls $4
JabbaDaFlop calls $2
*** RIVER *** [4h Qs Tc 2s] [3s]
egbert42 checks
JabbaDaFlop checks
drei26 bets $2
egbert42 raises to $4
JabbaDaFlop folds
drei26 raises to $6
egbert42 raises to $8
drei26 calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***

(6, 4, 3, 2, A)
drei26 mucks
egbert42 wins the high pot ($18) with a flush, Ace high
egbert42 wins the low pot ($18) with a 6, 4, 3, 2, A

drei26 mucked [Qh 7s 5c 4d]

Convert please: http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

And please do not include results.

see above, i cant get it to convert because it's not all there.

results in white.

now. any thoughts on the hand?

Heh, sorry missed that the first time, if you had it there all along.

I'd recommend not putting results in white either, however, as everyone reads them anyways, lol.

Yeah, its like a compulsion. I'd like to say it wouldn't affect my analysis, but I don't think that's possible.

As for the hand, I hate calling the flop. What are you playing for? You need runner runner for low, and one of them to be a 2 in order to have the nuts (and neither an A or a 3). You have a gutshot and backdoor flush draw for high, which is about ~5.5 outs, but if anyone is continuing here they prob have some of your outs in their hand, or are playing for the same straight. The only good thing there is you might be playing for the whole pot if it gets there, OTOH, you could easily split when you hit it or still lose to a backdoor flush or boat. You're getting 7:1, and even that I don't think is enough for a call in this spot, but your true odds are much less since you're splitting so often.

Anyway, after that, as played, I think you played it well. You don't want to 3-bet the turn and chase out Jabba, ideally it gets capped between them. On the river again its pretty easy and you played it well. Even if you chase out Jabba with the raise, drei is going to call so you're getting the same in the pot by raise as you would looking for an overcall, plus you might get lucky and have Jabba call your raise or drei re-raise which would be great.

But keep in mind you got 2 very lucky cards to make your hand. In most cases you should be dumping at that flop. This looks like the classic blind hand trap, where you play too far after seeing a cheap flop. Make sure you're not overplaying your blind hands and can get away from flops that miss you this much.

EDIT: I didn't see about ignoring the pf and flop at first, sry for ranting about it. I think turn and river were played well to extract maximum.

this is a super complicated equity calculation for which i honestly don't know the answer. i'd be tempted to say your equity is good enough to checkraise in a multiway field with good c/r position relative to flop bettor who definitely won't be scared by that turn, but i'm not entirely sure. can someone run these odds against various holdings, like a KJxx, a3xx, worse spades? i'm pretty curious, and too drunk to do it myself right now

calling the flop is fine, imho.

again, i didn't play the hand. i thought the call on the flop was utter nonsense, but i got into an argument with the guy who did play the hand about check-raising the turn.

i felt like it might be profitable in light of the big 2-way draws in a multiway pot (plus possible fold equity, etc.), but i have no hard math to back that up.

Call turn for me.
drei26 is dreadful to be betting and raising river and not get 1/2

Call on the flop dumb, check raising dumb, calling the turn mayyybe justified

two back door flush draws, two backdoor low draws, backdoor straight draws, gutterball straightdraw. i think peeling a small bet here is fine.



it's close IMO, but i think just calling is fine.




13 outs to scoop, and a bunch for half, getting better than 3:1 on our money, folding is a mistake.