Some of you are just not very good at the whole reading thing, seriously. I said the comparison is absurd, but it helps to make my point. That's just a fact. The comparison to Tony Soprano is also a little strange, but it is also a comparison that makes sense is this particular instance. I'm not saying the people at votefortheworst.com are like mobsters!
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Full Version: American Idol And Terrorists
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:27 AM) 
Some of you are just not very good at the whole reading thing, seriously. I said the comparison is absurd, but it helps to make my point. That's just a fact. The comparison to Tony Soprano is also a little strange, but it is also a comparison that makes sense is this particular instance. I'm not saying the people at votefortheworst.com are like mobsters!
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Word!
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 2:27 PM)
Some of you are just not very good at the whole reading thing, seriously. I said the comparison is absurd, but it helps to make my point. That's just a fact. The comparison to Tony Soprano is also a little strange, but it is also a comparison that makes sense is this particular instance. I'm not saying the people at votefortheworst.com are like mobsters!
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Watch your mouth , I thought you were a christian lol JK
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 2:27 PM)
Some of you are just not very good at the whole reading thing, seriously. I said the comparison is absurd, but it helps to make my point. That's just a fact. The comparison to Tony Soprano is also a little strange, but it is also a comparison that makes sense is this particular instance. I'm not saying the people at votefortheworst.com are like mobsters!
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Some people are so annoying. I wasn't making terrorism a light issue, it isn't. I wasn't claiming that American Idol is as serious or important as terroriism. All I'm saying, and I'm freakin' 100% right btw, is that the goals of terrorists are similar to those of people who like to crap on other people's parade.
Similar to people who like to destroy their communities with graffitti. People who like to vandalize community parks, etc. Another example would be these kids who used to rip down the basketball nets at the park I used to play at. They did it so often that the park stopped repairing them because it was costly and these jerks would just do it again. So, we couldn't play basketball at the park anymore. They thought it was funny, sure, but those few jerks ruined things for so many of us kids who liked to play in the park.
These jerks at votefortheworst are trying to destroy the competition. Lots of people love the competitiom and want it to reward the people most deserving, but this group is deliberately trying to rip down the basketball nets and spoil everyone's fun becase they think it's funny. Screw them. Seriously, screw those hateful people.
Watch your mouth , I thought you were a christian jk lol
Please, there are thousands of Americans that for whatever reason are voting for Sanjaya for legitimate, non mean spirited reasons. Votefortheworst is only a small fraction of those votes. If the kid was such a victim he could have left a long time ago of his own will(as many have done in previous seasons). If anything the people voting for him are making him money, he is now a part of the tour and will be payed for that.
The show is AMERICAN Idol, America keeps putting Sanjaya through. While it may be a comment on our current society, this is what the show is all about. One little website isn't controlling this. AMERICA is. You are really making Sanjya into way a bigger victim than he is, the kid seems to be having a blast to me. And if you think American Idol was EVER a legitimate talent competition in the first place you need to turn the blinders off.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure graffiti, vandalism, terrorism etc. are all against the law.
Voting for Sanjaya? Not the last time I looked. You are injecting to much drama into this Daniel IMO.
The show is AMERICAN Idol, America keeps putting Sanjaya through. While it may be a comment on our current society, this is what the show is all about. One little website isn't controlling this. AMERICA is. You are really making Sanjya into way a bigger victim than he is, the kid seems to be having a blast to me. And if you think American Idol was EVER a legitimate talent competition in the first place you need to turn the blinders off.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure graffiti, vandalism, terrorism etc. are all against the law.
Voting for Sanjaya? Not the last time I looked. You are injecting to much drama into this Daniel IMO.
QUOTE (WashaUffizi @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 2:36 PM)
Please, there are thousands of Americans that for whatever reason are voting for Sanjaya for legitimate, non mean spirited reasons. Votefortheworst is only a small fraction of those votes. If the kid was such a victim he could have left a long time ago of his own will(as many have done in previous seasons). If anything the people voting for him are making him money, he is now a part of the tour and will be payed for that.
The show is AMERICAN Idol, America keeps putting Sanjaya through. While it may be a comment on our current society, this is what the show is all about. One little website isn't controlling this. AMERICA is. You are really making Sanjya into way a bigger victim than he is, the kid seems to be having a blast to me. And if you think American Idol was EVER a legitimate talent competition in the first place you need to turn the blinders off.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure graffiti, vandalism, terrorism etc. are all against the law.
Voting for Sanjaya? Not the last time I looked. You are injecting to much drama into this Daniel IMO.
The show is AMERICAN Idol, America keeps putting Sanjaya through. While it may be a comment on our current society, this is what the show is all about. One little website isn't controlling this. AMERICA is. You are really making Sanjya into way a bigger victim than he is, the kid seems to be having a blast to me. And if you think American Idol was EVER a legitimate talent competition in the first place you need to turn the blinders off.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure graffiti, vandalism, terrorism etc. are all against the law.
Voting for Sanjaya? Not the last time I looked. You are injecting to much drama into this Daniel IMO.
It's not only the website. Ever here of some disc jockey named Howard Stern... Ya, that overpaid nit is also promoting this voting. So, ya America is doing the voting, but who are they listening to while they dial those numbers.
Seriously...we are all still missing the big picture here. No matter what Daniel thinks, no matter what you think, the most important thing still is and always will be the fact that American Idol is extremely....GAY!! 
QUOTE (DanielN.)
I said the comparison is absurd, but it helps to make my point. That's just a fact
That's not a fact Daniel, it's your opinion. Using the terrorist comparison DOESN'T HELP make your point. In fact, it destroyed your credibility.
Baba booey
QUOTE (2centsworth @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 10:54 AM)
That's not a fact Daniel, it's your opinion. Using the terrorist comparison DOESN'T HELP make your point. In fact, it destroyed your credibility.
what he said may be his opinion, but it is fact that he said it
I hate haters
I think that Daniel and a lot of people are missing the point. American Idol became popular because America gets to pick who ever they want. If they want to pick someone they think is bad or someone they think is funny they can.
If the best people are supposed to win, whats the point of having America vote...
by the way is having Sanjaya be the American Idol any different than the country voting for a buffoon for President?
The same voting public voted for George Bush for president..How did that work out for you???
Its the american way, freedom of speech and a democratic voting process. The people that are voting for Sanjaya are just exercising their right to vote.
I am not American , however my wife is so I can say this......
How bad is it that a reality tv show gets more voters than a presidential election???
If the best people are supposed to win, whats the point of having America vote...
by the way is having Sanjaya be the American Idol any different than the country voting for a buffoon for President?
The same voting public voted for George Bush for president..How did that work out for you???
Its the american way, freedom of speech and a democratic voting process. The people that are voting for Sanjaya are just exercising their right to vote.
I am not American , however my wife is so I can say this......
How bad is it that a reality tv show gets more voters than a presidential election???
Why doesnt Daniel like me? I watch him play the poker all the time. He is so very good.
QUOTE (2centsworth @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 2:54 PM)
That's not a fact Daniel, it's your opinion. Using the terrorist comparison DOESN'T HELP make your point. In fact, it destroyed your credibility.
Actually, it's just your opinion.
QUOTE (Figger @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 10:52 AM)
It's not only the website. Ever here of some disc jockey named Howard Stern... Ya, that overpaid nit is also promoting this voting. So, ya America is doing the voting, but who are they listening to while they dial those numbers.
It doesn't matter. My point is that whether it be votefortheworst people, Stern listeners, or people who actually like Sanjaya the point of the show is that it is left in OUR hands to decide who stays and who goes. If Sanjaya for whatever reason has garnered enough votes to stick around, then pee and moan all you want but it's perfectly within the rules of the competition. You can whine that's its ruining your enjoyment until you're blue in the face, there's nothing you can do about it.
And to equate it with illegal, violent acts that legitimately destroy communities is absurd. IT's a REALITY TV SHOW aka shouldn't be that important at the end of the day. You people who are ready to blow a gasket over this are nuts, are you THAT emotionally involved?
QUOTE (serge @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:59 AM)
I think that Daniel and a lot of people are missing the point. American Idol became popular because America gets to pick who ever they want. If they want to pick someone they think is bad or someone they think is funny they can.
If the best people are supposed to win, whats the point of having America vote...
by the way is having Sanjaya be the American Idol any different than the country voting for a buffoon for President?
The same voting public voted for George Bush for president..How did that work out for you???
Its the american way, freedom of speech and a democratic voting process. The people that are voting for Sanjaya are just exercising their right to vote.
I am not American , however my wife is so I can say this......
How bad is it that a reality tv show gets more voters than a presidential election???
If the best people are supposed to win, whats the point of having America vote...
by the way is having Sanjaya be the American Idol any different than the country voting for a buffoon for President?
The same voting public voted for George Bush for president..How did that work out for you???
Its the american way, freedom of speech and a democratic voting process. The people that are voting for Sanjaya are just exercising their right to vote.
I am not American , however my wife is so I can say this......
How bad is it that a reality tv show gets more voters than a presidential election???
See how serge is trying to get me to get into a political argument here.
Not going to do it
I'm not
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:02 PM)
See how serge is trying to get me to get into a political argument here.
Not going to do it
I'm not
Not going to do it
I'm not
Just give in...it feels so nice to say "yes"
QUOTE (Sanjaya @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:00 AM)
Why doesnt Daniel like me? I watch him play the poker all the time. He is so very good.
Who didn't see this one coming?
QUOTE (DCJ001 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:00 AM)
Actually, it's just your opinion.
actually, it's fact it's not JUST my opinion. Nevertheless, Daniel likes to confuse his opinion with fact. I just wish he would weigh all the facts before commenting.
QUOTE (suicideking @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:05 PM)
Who didn't see this one coming?
See what coming?
QUOTE (cubsfan44 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 10:58 AM)
what he said may be his opinion, but it is fact that he said it
true, but before criticizing people for their reading comprehension, maybe he should look in the mirror and consider he doesn't write so well.
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:07 PM)
See what coming?
I dont like to get into a political argument...I was just saying that if I want to vote for Sanjaya i am allowed to....
Its my right...Just as it is an American's right to vote for a bad president....Now you may think George Bush is doing a great job, however the fact of the matter is the American public would not vote for him again...
QUOTE (serge @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:11 PM)
I dont like to get into a political argument...I was just saying that if I want to vote for Sanjaya i am allowed to....
Its my right...Just as it is an American's right to vote for a bad president....Now you may think George Bush is doing a great job, however the fact of the matter is the American public would not vote for him again...
Its my right...Just as it is an American's right to vote for a bad president....Now you may think George Bush is doing a great job, however the fact of the matter is the American public would not vote for him again...
Still not going to argue politics
not going to do it
wouldn't be prudent
I blame this on the emo's and everything else for that matter.
QUOTE (WashaUffizi @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:36 AM)
Please, there are thousands of Americans that for whatever reason are voting for Sanjaya for legitimate, non mean spirited reasons. Votefortheworst is only a small fraction of those votes. If the kid was such a victim he could have left a long time ago of his own will(as many have done in previous seasons). If anything the people voting for him are making him money, he is now a part of the tour and will be payed for that.
The show is AMERICAN Idol, America keeps putting Sanjaya through. While it may be a comment on our current society, this is what the show is all about. One little website isn't controlling this. AMERICA is. You are really making Sanjya into way a bigger victim than he is, the kid seems to be having a blast to me. And if you think American Idol was EVER a legitimate talent competition in the first place you need to turn the blinders off.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure graffiti, vandalism, terrorism etc. are all against the law.
Voting for Sanjaya? Not the last time I looked. You are injecting to much drama into this Daniel IMO.
The show is AMERICAN Idol, America keeps putting Sanjaya through. While it may be a comment on our current society, this is what the show is all about. One little website isn't controlling this. AMERICA is. You are really making Sanjya into way a bigger victim than he is, the kid seems to be having a blast to me. And if you think American Idol was EVER a legitimate talent competition in the first place you need to turn the blinders off.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure graffiti, vandalism, terrorism etc. are all against the law.
Voting for Sanjaya? Not the last time I looked. You are injecting to much drama into this Daniel IMO.
Sanjaya is a victim in the worst possible way... he doesn't even know, or realize the pain he is going to have to endure. The Brittany Spears like suffering that many people under the microscope are faced to deal with. As a 17 year old boy he is going to have to deal with so much ridicule that it's virtually impossible for anyone to handle. Unless you've lived in a fish bowl for any length of time it would be hard for you to understand what that can do to you.
Yes he'll make some money from this, but at what cost? There is more to life than money and 15 minutes of fame.
QUOTE (2centsworth @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:54 AM)
That's not a fact Daniel, it's your opinion. Using the terrorist comparison DOESN'T HELP make your point. In fact, it destroyed your credibility.
You are wrong. NANI NANI BOO BOO!!! It does help to make my point extremely clear. It's not my fault that you can't seem to understand it.
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:18 PM)
Still not going to argue politics
not going to do it
wouldn't be prudent
not going to do it
wouldn't be prudent
lmao
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:40 PM)
You are wrong. NANI NANI BOO BOO!!! It does help to make my point extremely clear. It's not my fault that you can't seem to understand it.
lmao, squared.
I wonder how many of the clueless responders used to be in debate club in high school?
Some of you guys are just blowing this way out of proportion. Okay so maybe DN didn't use the BEST analogy. But I think we all understood his point. DN clearly wasn't trying to take away from the seriousness of terrorism, or in any way compare the importance of American Idol to that of terrorist acts. He was simply making the point that there are always people out there who are going to try to do hurtful, tasteless things simply out of hatred, spite, or because they find it amusing.
I agree with what he is saying on many levels, and I think its sad that so many of you are so "outraged" by his comments. If you read the article thoroughly and used some common sense, you would have figured out the message Daniel was trying to get across.
It's sad that people come to someone else's website to read his blog, and then throw a fit by what he has to say.
HELLO ITS A BLOG!!!!!!!!
I agree with what he is saying on many levels, and I think its sad that so many of you are so "outraged" by his comments. If you read the article thoroughly and used some common sense, you would have figured out the message Daniel was trying to get across.
It's sad that people come to someone else's website to read his blog, and then throw a fit by what he has to say.
HELLO ITS A BLOG!!!!!!!!
QUOTE (WashaUffizi @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:01 PM)
It doesn't matter. My point is that whether it be votefortheworst people, Stern listeners, or people who actually like Sanjaya the point of the show is that it is left in OUR hands to decide who stays and who goes. If Sanjaya for whatever reason has garnered enough votes to stick around, then pee and moan all you want but it's perfectly within the rules of the competition. You can whine that's its ruining your enjoyment until you're blue in the face, there's nothing you can do about it.
And to equate it with illegal, violent acts that legitimately destroy communities is absurd. IT's a REALITY TV SHOW aka shouldn't be that important at the end of the day. You people who are ready to blow a gasket over this are nuts, are you THAT emotionally involved?
And to equate it with illegal, violent acts that legitimately destroy communities is absurd. IT's a REALITY TV SHOW aka shouldn't be that important at the end of the day. You people who are ready to blow a gasket over this are nuts, are you THAT emotionally involved?
I've got plenty more example that aren't illegal:
A classroom teacher used to allow her students to eat thier lunch during class provided that they clean up afterwards. Most everyone appreciated the teacher allowing that and it worked fine. A small group of jerks, though, would eat and not clean up thier mess. The teacher was forced to stop allowing the kids to eat in class.. ALL BECAUSE OF A SMALL GROUP OF INCONSIDERATE JERKS!!!
At a community center near my house they used to let the kids play in the gym after hours as long as they put all the balls away. Of course, a couple of the kids left the place a mess, so no more priveliges.
When you give people priveliges and they either abuse them, or don't respect the opportunity, those priveliges are usually taken away.
Main Entry: analˇoˇgy
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin -- compare HOMOLOGY
Some of you should read and think about what an analogy means (see above)
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin -- compare HOMOLOGY
Some of you should read and think about what an analogy means (see above)
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:43 PM)
Some of you guys are just blowing this way out of proportion. Okay so maybe DN didn't use the BEST analogy. But I think we all understood his point. DN clearly wasn't trying to take away from the seriousness of terrorism, or in any way compare the importance of American Idol to that of terrorist acts. He was simply making the point that there are always people out there who are going to try to do hurtful, tasteless things simply out of hatred, spite, or because they find it amusing.
I agree with what he is saying on many levels, and I think its sad that so many of you are so "outraged" by his comments. If you read the article thoroughly and used some common sense, you would have figured out the message Daniel was trying to get across.
It's sad that people come to someone else's website to read his blog, and then throw a fit by what he has to say.
HELLO ITS A BLOG!!!!!!!!
I agree with what he is saying on many levels, and I think its sad that so many of you are so "outraged" by his comments. If you read the article thoroughly and used some common sense, you would have figured out the message Daniel was trying to get across.
It's sad that people come to someone else's website to read his blog, and then throw a fit by what he has to say.
HELLO ITS A BLOG!!!!!!!!
Worrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd
Lots of folks make statements and use what some may consider "over the top" or "absurd" comparisons to make a valid point. Ironically enough, Rush Limbaugh is one of the masters at this. Exposing absurdity using absurd examples.
The point is this technique, as controversial as it may be to some of you over sensitive types, WORKS.
Case in point....it sure got your attention, right?
I think some of you just like to argue for the sake of arguing. Are you all REALLY that upset about what Daniel has said? Do you REALLY not get what he was saying?
lol
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:36 AM)
Sanjaya is a victim in the worst possible way... he doesn't even know, or realize the pain he is going to have to endure. The Brittany Spears like suffering that many people under the microscope are faced to deal with. As a 17 year old boy he is going to have to deal with so much ridicule that it's virtually impossible for anyone to handle. Unless you've lived in a fish bowl for any length of time it would be hard for you to understand what that can do to you.
Yes he'll make some money from this, but at what cost? There is more to life than money and 15 minutes of fame.
Yes he'll make some money from this, but at what cost? There is more to life than money and 15 minutes of fame.
Doesn't the opening round of AI auditions make victims out of people in the same way? They bring terrible singers in who think there good and make fools out of them. Do you enjoy this stage of AI, Daniel?
Not trying to disrespect your opinion, just making a point that it is inconsistent.
we do get it
you ment to say jerks but insted you said terrorist, because terrorist are (beside killing people) also jerks its a good comparison, sure...
i just dont see how they are jerks, if the show is about voting whoever you want to see, and they are using their right to do so.
and like everyone said idol are doing a much worser thing in the auditions, so they shouldnt complain.
you ment to say jerks but insted you said terrorist, because terrorist are (beside killing people) also jerks its a good comparison, sure...
i just dont see how they are jerks, if the show is about voting whoever you want to see, and they are using their right to do so.
and like everyone said idol are doing a much worser thing in the auditions, so they shouldnt complain.
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:54 AM)
Main Entry: analˇoˇgy
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin -- compare HOMOLOGY
Some of you should read and think about what an analogy means (see above)
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin -- compare HOMOLOGY
Some of you should read and think about what an analogy means (see above)
"You are wrong. NANI NANI BOO BOO!!!"
LOL hard to argue that.
LOL hard to argue that.
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:50 AM)
I've got plenty more example that aren't illegal:
A classroom teacher used to allow her students to eat thier lunch during class provided that they clean up afterwards. Most everyone appreciated the teacher allowing that and it worked fine. A small group of jerks, though, would eat and not clean up thier mess. The teacher was forced to stop allowing the kids to eat in class.. ALL BECAUSE OF A SMALL GROUP OF INCONSIDERATE JERKS!!!
At a community center near my house they used to let the kids play in the gym after hours as long as they put all the balls away. Of course, a couple of the kids left the place a mess, so no more priveliges.
When you give people priveliges and they either abuse them, or don't respect the opportunity, those priveliges are usually taken away.
A classroom teacher used to allow her students to eat thier lunch during class provided that they clean up afterwards. Most everyone appreciated the teacher allowing that and it worked fine. A small group of jerks, though, would eat and not clean up thier mess. The teacher was forced to stop allowing the kids to eat in class.. ALL BECAUSE OF A SMALL GROUP OF INCONSIDERATE JERKS!!!
At a community center near my house they used to let the kids play in the gym after hours as long as they put all the balls away. Of course, a couple of the kids left the place a mess, so no more priveliges.
When you give people priveliges and they either abuse them, or don't respect the opportunity, those priveliges are usually taken away.
I would argue that with American Idol we are not being given a "privelage". The concept of Americans voting for the singers IS the show. Without it there would be no American Idol. It's not like they can just take away our voting "privelige" like a mother takes away a childs TV privelige. If the fact that Sanjaya has made it this far is unsettling to the producers, then I would guess a stricter reign on who makes it far in the competition would be put in place, but they would never abandon the concept of Americans deciding the outcome, that is the show.
And as far as Sanjaya being a victim in the worst possible way, I think we just have a fundamental difference of opinion on how it will affect him after the show. You speak as though American Idol will be his own personal Scarlet Letter and haunt him for the rest of his life. I think he'll be forgotten about in a year like so many from that show have in the past. Who knows.
QUOTE (pslarrylegend1 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 1:07 PM)
Doesn't the opening round of AI auditions make victims out of people in the same way? They bring terrible singers in who think there good and make fools out of them. Do you enjoy this stage of AI, Daniel?
Not trying to disrespect your opinion, just making a point that it is inconsistent.
Not trying to disrespect your opinion, just making a point that it is inconsistent.
Those people on the show aren't ask to go on the show and look like fools. American Idol doesn't humiliate those people, they humiliate themselves! How can American Idol be blamed for terrible singers CHOOSING to go on national television despite having no talent whatsoever? The people that should be blamed for that one are friends and family of the person who auditioned.
I think the first part of the show is hilarious, but sometimes really cruel. I thought when Simon made funny of one kid's appearance that it was just mean, but when he rips on them for awful singing it can be funny.
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 12:24 PM)
Those people on the show aren't ask to go on the show and look like fools. American Idol doesn't humiliate those people, they humiliate themselves! How can American Idol be blamed for terrible singers CHOOSING to go on national television despite having no talent whatsoever? The people that should be blamed for that one are friends and family of the person who auditioned.
I think the first part of the show is hilarious, but sometimes really cruel. I thought when Simon made funny of one kid's appearance that it was just mean, but when he rips on them for awful singing it can be funny.
I think the first part of the show is hilarious, but sometimes really cruel. I thought when Simon made funny of one kid's appearance that it was just mean, but when he rips on them for awful singing it can be funny.
If you enjoy that part of the show, can't you at least see how some people might find the show more enjoyable if a bad singer keeps getting strung along in the competition? Not really to be hateful, just to make the show more entertaining for themselves. In a "wouldn't it be funny if Sanjaya won" kind of way. Thats kind of how the whole thing started on Stern and then snowballed.
LOL...still GAY
QUOTE (WashaUffizi @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 1:22 PM)
I would argue that with American Idol we are not being given a "privelage". The concept of Americans voting for the singers IS the show. Without it there would be no American Idol. It's not like they can just take away our voting "privelige" like a mother takes away a childs TV privelige. If the fact that Sanjaya has made it this far is unsettling to the producers, then I would guess a stricter reign on who makes it far in the competition would be put in place, but they would never abandon the concept of Americans deciding the outcome, that is the show.
And as far as Sanjaya being a victim in the worst possible way, I think we just have a fundamental difference of opinion on how it will affect him after the show. You speak as though American Idol will be his own personal Scarlet Letter and haunt him for the rest of his life. I think he'll be forgotten about in a year like so many from that show have in the past. Who knows.
And as far as Sanjaya being a victim in the worst possible way, I think we just have a fundamental difference of opinion on how it will affect him after the show. You speak as though American Idol will be his own personal Scarlet Letter and haunt him for the rest of his life. I think he'll be forgotten about in a year like so many from that show have in the past. Who knows.
Ahh, but that can be painful in itself. He'll be remembered as being the guy that didn't deserve to be there as late as he was. He'll be remembered as a joke, and there isn't a human being in the world that can honestly say they'd be happy about that. Not one. He's only 17 right now and doesn't know what's going on.
Does anyone really beleive that so many child actors having major problems in later life is all a coincidence? It's not. Dealing with the media and all that stuff can be difficult for many people. I know a little bit about that, btw.
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 1:33 PM)
Ahh, but that can be painful in itself. He'll be remembered as being the guy that didn't deserve to be there as late as he was. He'll be remembered as a joke, and there isn't a human being in the world that can honestly say they'd be happy about that. Not one. He's only 17 right now and doesn't know what's going on.
Does anyone really beleive that so many child actors having major problems in later life is all a coincidence? It's not. Dealing with the media and all that stuff can be difficult for many people. I know a little bit about that, btw.
Does anyone really beleive that so many child actors having major problems in later life is all a coincidence? It's not. Dealing with the media and all that stuff can be difficult for many people. I know a little bit about that, btw.
LOL @ Jay Schroeder
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If you enjoy that part of the show, can't you at least see how some people might find the show more enjoyable if a bad singer keeps getting strung along in the competition? Not really to be hateful, just to make the show more entertaining for themselves. In a "wouldn't it be funny if Sanjaya won" kind of way. Thats kind of how the whole thing started on Stern and then snowballed.
That snowball is gonna hit someone, hard.
Is it really worth the added entertainment value at the expense of a 17 year old kid. I don't watch this show regularly, but I have seen enough episodes to know that he is truly passionate about singing and while he may not be the best singer left in the group, he is a good kid at heart. I don't have a problem with the fact that people are voting for him to stay on the show. He is obviously passionate about singing and it is a show based on viewer's choice.
HOWEVER...
I do have a problem with the fact that they have created a website called votefortheworst.com...and on this website they encourage people to vote for him because he is the worst. Can you imagine what that would feel like? What if they made a poker reality show where America got to vote who was kicked off. And what if they created a similiar website but stuck your name in it and only voted for you because they thought you were the worst. Probably wouldn't be so funny then. Might effect your self-esteem a little bit.
If they created a website that was voteforsanjaya.com (however u spell his name) and people voted because they supported him, and not because they thought he was the worst it would be an entirely different story. They are getting added laughs at the expense of a 17 year old kid.
And the whole argument about them being cruel. Nobody forces them to go try out for the show, and people this is not the first season anymore. Everyone knows what kind of crap is gonna come out of Simon's mouth. If people show up on their own free will then nobody can really say anything.
HOWEVER...
I do have a problem with the fact that they have created a website called votefortheworst.com...and on this website they encourage people to vote for him because he is the worst. Can you imagine what that would feel like? What if they made a poker reality show where America got to vote who was kicked off. And what if they created a similiar website but stuck your name in it and only voted for you because they thought you were the worst. Probably wouldn't be so funny then. Might effect your self-esteem a little bit.
If they created a website that was voteforsanjaya.com (however u spell his name) and people voted because they supported him, and not because they thought he was the worst it would be an entirely different story. They are getting added laughs at the expense of a 17 year old kid.
And the whole argument about them being cruel. Nobody forces them to go try out for the show, and people this is not the first season anymore. Everyone knows what kind of crap is gonna come out of Simon's mouth. If people show up on their own free will then nobody can really say anything.
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 11:40 AM)
You are wrong. NANI NANI BOO BOO!!! It does help to make my point extremely clear. It's not my fault that you can't seem to understand it.
We can't understand it because your writing was sloppy at best. What's so difficult with admitting that you could have made your point better than you did?
QUOTE (2centsworth @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 3:43 PM)
We can't understand it because your writing was sloppy at best. What's so difficult with admitting that you could have made your point better than you did?
I understood him just fine. He made a valid point using an over the top analogy. Tough to comprehend, I know. It took me till about the 5th grade before I got it either
QUOTE (iowahawk09 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 1:41 PM)
Is it really worth the added entertainment value at the expense of a 17 year old kid. I don't watch this show regularly, but I have seen enough episodes to know that he is truly passionate about singing and while he may not be the best singer left in the group, he is a good kid at heart. I don't have a problem with the fact that people are voting for him to stay on the show. He is obviously passionate about singing and it is a show based on viewer's choice.
HOWEVER...
I do have a problem with the fact that they have created a website called votefortheworst.com...and on this website they encourage people to vote for him because he is the worst. Can you imagine what that would feel like? What if they made a poker reality show where America got to vote who was kicked off. And what if they created a similiar website but stuck your name in it and only voted for you because they thought you were the worst. Probably wouldn't be so funny then. Might effect your self-esteem a little bit.
If they created a website that was voteforsanjaya.com (however u spell his name) and people voted because they supported him, and not because they thought he was the worst it would be an entirely different story. They are getting added laughs at the expense of a 17 year old kid.
And the whole argument about them being cruel. Nobody forces them to go try out for the show, and people this is not the first season anymore. Everyone knows what kind of crap is gonna come out of Simon's mouth. If people show up on their own free will then nobody can really say anything.
HOWEVER...
I do have a problem with the fact that they have created a website called votefortheworst.com...and on this website they encourage people to vote for him because he is the worst. Can you imagine what that would feel like? What if they made a poker reality show where America got to vote who was kicked off. And what if they created a similiar website but stuck your name in it and only voted for you because they thought you were the worst. Probably wouldn't be so funny then. Might effect your self-esteem a little bit.
If they created a website that was voteforsanjaya.com (however u spell his name) and people voted because they supported him, and not because they thought he was the worst it would be an entirely different story. They are getting added laughs at the expense of a 17 year old kid.
And the whole argument about them being cruel. Nobody forces them to go try out for the show, and people this is not the first season anymore. Everyone knows what kind of crap is gonna come out of Simon's mouth. If people show up on their own free will then nobody can really say anything.
All these "reality" shows exploit poptards. And the american public is so mesmerized by these shows. Take William Hung for instance, he was ridiculed and as far as I can tell he's laughing last, all the way to the bank. America loves a train wreck.
As far as Sanjaya is concerned, whether or not he was factored in by a conspiracy to vote for the worst.....doesn't really matter. If Sanjaya was being damaged by the actions or will be damaged by how it went down, I would think that if it was distressing him...he would pull himself from the competition. If thats not the case, then its either because its not affecting him negatively......or he's really naive. In either case I have no sympathy either way, he entered the competition in hopes of getting something from nothing. He'has accomplished that, he has notoriety, and i'm sure that will bank him win or lose. So no, i don't feel sorry for these mediocre or horrible contestants or characters in any of these reality shows. Much like I have little to no sympathy for celebrities whining about the paparazzi, its the price ya pay for notoriety. If you don't take those things into consideration before ya register, then yer extremely short-sighted. Thats not surprising though as much of this country is extremely short-sighted anymore.
As far as Sanjaya is concerned, whether or not he was factored in by a conspiracy to vote for the worst.....doesn't really matter. If Sanjaya was being damaged by the actions or will be damaged by how it went down, I would think that if it was distressing him...he would pull himself from the competition. If thats not the case, then its either because its not affecting him negatively......or he's really naive. In either case I have no sympathy either way, he entered the competition in hopes of getting something from nothing. He'has accomplished that, he has notoriety, and i'm sure that will bank him win or lose. So no, i don't feel sorry for these mediocre or horrible contestants or characters in any of these reality shows. Much like I have little to no sympathy for celebrities whining about the paparazzi, its the price ya pay for notoriety. If you don't take those things into consideration before ya register, then yer extremely short-sighted. Thats not surprising though as much of this country is extremely short-sighted anymore.
QUOTE (2centsworth @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 1:43 PM)
We can't understand it because your writing was sloppy at best. What's so difficult with admitting that you could have made your point better than you did?
My writing and analogy was perfect and amazingly insightful at the same time! I'm probably the greatest writer of the century, and frankly, I don't even think it's close. Shakespeare was good and all, but that was a different era and I think what I bring to the table is well..just way, way better.
If I thought at all that my analogy was bad I would be more than man enough to admit I was wrong. I've actually done that before you know? In this case, I'm 158% right and there is no way anyone can say any different, because, well, I'm tghe greatest writer of all time and I'm also widely hailed as the most brilliant man in the country. I'm not making this stuff up people, just ask my mom. She'll tell you how smart I am, I'm wicked smart! You should not only listen to EVERYTHING I have to say, but you would be a fool to disagree with me, like ever.
I think I'm going to change my sig? What do you guys think:
"this post brought to you by the most brilliant man in the world."
QUOTE (Kwest4chipz @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 1:51 PM)
All these "reality" shows exploit poptards. And the american public is so mesmerized by these shows. Take William Hung for instance, he was ridiculed and as far as I can tell he's laughing last, all the way to the bank. America loves a train wreck.
As far as Sanjaya is concerned, whether or not he was factored in by a conspiracy to vote for the worst.....doesn't really matter. If Sanjaya was being damaged by the actions or will be damaged by how it went down, I would think that if it was distressing him...he would pull himself from the competition. If thats not the case, then its either because its not affecting him negatively......or he's really naive. In either case I have no sympathy either way, he entered the competition in hopes of getting something from nothing. He'has accomplished that, he has notoriety, and i'm sure that will bank him win or lose. So no, i don't feel sorry for these mediocre or horrible contestants or characters in any of these reality shows. Much like I have little to no sympathy for celebrities whining about the paparazzi, its the price ya pay for notoriety. If you don't take those things into consideration before ya register, then yer extremely short-sighted. Thats not surprising though as much of this country is extremely short-sighted anymore.
As far as Sanjaya is concerned, whether or not he was factored in by a conspiracy to vote for the worst.....doesn't really matter. If Sanjaya was being damaged by the actions or will be damaged by how it went down, I would think that if it was distressing him...he would pull himself from the competition. If thats not the case, then its either because its not affecting him negatively......or he's really naive. In either case I have no sympathy either way, he entered the competition in hopes of getting something from nothing. He'has accomplished that, he has notoriety, and i'm sure that will bank him win or lose. So no, i don't feel sorry for these mediocre or horrible contestants or characters in any of these reality shows. Much like I have little to no sympathy for celebrities whining about the paparazzi, its the price ya pay for notoriety. If you don't take those things into consideration before ya register, then yer extremely short-sighted. Thats not surprising though as much of this country is extremely short-sighted anymore.
He's 17 years old? Man, that's pretty harsh. You think at age 17 you'd really be able to gauge the pros and cons of such a decision? You don't sound very forgiving with this.
Say someone loves acting (I actually know one movie star in particular that fits this category) and doing films but has no desire to be famous or to be bothered. They do some movies and are slightly naive about how intrusive the paparazzi can be. Then they do a hit film, and the paparazzi flock to them like white on rice, watching their every move. Their privacy is gone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they should know that going in, but unless you've actually gone through it, how could you even understand how difficult that might be?
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