digitalmonkey
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 5:51 AM
In 1985, to commemorate the 75th Anniversary of Le Club de hockey Canadiens, an all-time Dream Team was composed based upon fan balloting.
The results:
G - Jacques Plante
D - Doug Harvey
D - Larry Robinson
LW - Dickie Moore
C - Jean Beliveau
RW - Maurice Richard
Coach - Toe Blake
The Canadiens franchise is probably the most difficult to narrow down to 5 players.
What's your favourite team's dream team?
Zach6668
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 5:54 AM
Crosby
Lemieux
Jagr
Murphy
Coffey
Barrasso
Coach - Bob Johnson
GM - Craig Patrick (in his day)
Wow... that was tough... so many great players left out, lol. It was all of the top of my head though, so if I missed someone, that's why.
serge
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 5:55 AM
I am only going to go back to 1980 as i wasnt watching the Leafs back then....
Serge's Toronto Maple Leafs Dream Team:
G- Curtis Joseph
D- Borje Salming
D- Al Iafrate
LW- Mats Sundin(needs to play out of position)
RW- Rick Vaive
C - Doug Gilmour
COACH
Pat Burns
GM
Cliff Fletcher.
This is a very tough decision to pick 5 players...However its a personal favourite list
digitalmonkey
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 5:58 AM
QUOTE (serge @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 9:55 AM)

I am only going to go back to 1980 as i wasnt watching the Leafs back then....
Serge's Toronto Maple Leafs Dream Team:
G- Curtis Joseph
D- Borje Salming
D- Al Iafrate
LW- Mats Sundin(needs to play out of position)
RW- Rick Vaive
C - Doug Gilmour
COACH
Pat Burns
GM
Cliff Fletcher.
This is a very tough decision to pick 5 players...However its a personal favourite list
I'm glad you added this line. It should prevent gruven from crucifying you. Al Iafrate, Curtis Joseph...lol
serge
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:06 AM
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:58 AM)

I'm glad you added this line. It should prevent gruven from crucifying you. Al Iafrate, Curtis Joseph...lol
Well I think Cujo was probably are best goalie during this time..
other choices.
Allan Bester, Michel Laroque,Jiri Crha, Ken Wregget, Mike Palmateer, Rick Stcroix, Mark Laforest,Ed Belfour,Glenn Healy, JS Aubin, Andrew Raycroft, Michael Tellqvist,
and I know I missing a whole bunch.
Zach6668
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:07 AM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 9:54 AM)

Rico Fata
Shane Endicott
Robert Dome
Neil Wilkinson
Hans Jonsson
Wendell Young
Coach - Ed Olczyk
GM - Tony Esposito
Wow... that was tough... so many great players left out, lol. It was all of the top of my head though, so if I missed someone, that's why.
FMP.
Zach6668
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:07 AM
QUOTE (serge @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 10:06 AM)

Well I think Cujo was probably are best goalie during this time..
other choices.
Allan Bester, Michel Laroque,Jiri Crha, Ken Wregget, Mike Palmateer, Rick Stcroix, Mark Laforest,Ed Belfour,Glenn Healy, JS Aubin, Andrew Raycroft, Michael Tellqvist,
and I know I missing a whole bunch.
Felix Potvin, Peter Ing
serge
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:09 AM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 7:07 AM)

Felix Potvin, Peter Ing

doooh....How do i forget the CAT
DanielNegreanu
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:40 AM
G Felix Potvin (I was a huge fan of that team, loads of heart)
D Borje Salming (poor guy, had to play on so many crappy teams)
D Al Iafrate (hey, what can I say, his end to end rushes were exciting to watch)
LW Wendel Clark (best fighting % in NHL history, plus he could score and hit)
C Doug Gilmour (Killer was a smooth skater with loads of grit)
RW Vincent Damphousse (underrated player in my opinion, had a solid career in the NHL)
DanielNegreanu
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:41 AM
My favorite team to watch play would be:
G Roberto Luongo
D Paul Coffey
D Ray Bourque
LW Wendel Clark
C Mario Lemieux
RW Jaromir Jagr
DanielNegreanu
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:43 AM
It's pretty sad that I don't really have a place in my heart for any of the current Leaf players. The closest I come is Darcy Tucker or maybe Thomas Kaberle...
magnus72
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:51 AM
Marion Gaborik
Pavol Demitra
Brain Rolston
Willie Mitchell
Nick Schultz
Dwayne Roloson
Jacque Lemaire
What can I say its a young franchise?
digitalmonkey
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 7:06 AM
QUOTE (magnus72 @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 10:51 AM)

Marion Gaborik
Pavol Demitra
Brain Rolston
Willie Mitchell
Nick Schultz
Dwayne Roloson
Jacque Lemaire
What can I say its a young franchise?
Young or not, that forward line is money and the coach is one of the best ever IMO.
serge
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 7:53 AM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 7:41 AM)

My favorite team to watch play would be:
G Roberto Luongo
D Paul Coffey
D Ray Bourque
LW Wendel Clark
C Mario Lemieux
RW Jaromir Jagr
COME ON ...no Wayne Gretzky?...You have to put Wayne Gretzky on that list....Even if you have to make him a winger
gruven
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 10:01 AM
I did OTR with Vaive, yesterday, serge. He said to tell you that the people who bought his last house called, and wanted him to let you know that he doesn't live there anymore, so could you please stop peeking in the bathroom window?
serge
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 10:04 AM
QUOTE (gruven @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 11:01 AM)

I did OTR with Vaive, yesterday, serge. He said to tell you that the people who bought his last house called, and wanted him to let you know that he doesn't live there anymore, so could you please stop peeking in the bathroom window?
I LOVE RICK VAIVE...Did you ask him how Jeff is doing?I met Rick on several occasions and have several autographs...I am pretty sure I am his number fan..by far..
My love for Wellwood is dwarfed by my fanatism for Rick Vaive.
digitalmonkey
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 10:10 AM
QUOTE (serge @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:04 PM)

Wellwood is dwarfed
Say no more.
fleung22
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 11:05 AM
Since I see retired players I'll assume we're talking about players in their prime playing in todays conditions. Leadership, vision, heart, and skill make up my five.
Goalie
D Ray Bourque
D Chris Chelios
LW Mario Lemieux
C Wayne Gretzky
RW Mark Messier
WestcoastCanuck
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 11:54 AM
Luongo
Ohlund
Snepts
Bure
Linden
Naslund
Some tough choices on D, the Canucks have never had any Hall of Famer D, but they have a lot of pretty good ones. I put Snepts on because I have met him and he was a good guy. Ohlund is my favourite player. Very tough to leave off Smyle.
canadianyanke
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 12:37 PM
G- Felix Potvin
D- Jamie Macoun
D- Bryan Berard
W- Wendel Clark
C- Doug Gilmour
W- Darcy Tucker
=D
Babying
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 12:48 PM
G-Peter Ing
D-Borje Salming
D-Ian Turnbull
W-Inge Hammerstrom
C-Darryl Sittler
W-Lanny McDonald
Of course if there were more Ing's on the Leafs they would make this team.
strategy
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 12:54 PM
Coach - Scotty Bowman
GM - Haven't been a fan long enough, and I'm not saying Pleau
RW - Brett Hull
C - Bernie Federko
LW - LEE STEMPNIAK
D - Chris Pronger
D - Al MacInnis
G - Cujo
WestcoastCanuck
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 1:19 PM
QUOTE (strategy @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 12:54 PM)

Coach - Scotty Bowman
GM - Haven't been a fan long enough, and I'm not saying Pleau
RW - Brett Hull
C - Bernie Federko
LW - LEE STEMPNIAK
D - Chris Pronger
D - Al MacInnis
G - Cujo
Lol, wasn't Shanahan a LW for STL?
Zach6668
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 1:38 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 5:19 PM)

Lol, wasn't Shanahan a LW for STL?
I was just going to say that.
doox
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:01 PM
Goalie - Fleury.
Defense - Coffee and Murphy (with Ulf being the sentimental favorite)
RW - Lemieux (out of position)
C - Francis
LW - Luc Robitaille (yeah, we had him for half a season, but it counts!)
One more year and Crosby will take Ron's spot.
strategy
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:03 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 1:19 PM)

Lol, wasn't Shanahan a LW for STL?
He ain't got nothin' on the Stempinator.
But yes Shanny would be a better choice, LOL
doox
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:07 PM
You left out Gretzky as a member of St. Louis as well.
strategy
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:11 PM
QUOTE (doox @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:07 PM)

You left out Gretzky as a member of St. Louis as well.
C'mon, he doesn't really count. Hull and him did not play well together at all.
doox
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:22 PM
A dream team doesn't have to be about chemistry, though. It's more about picking the best individuals and throwing them together. That's why I took Luc - he was only a Pen during the half-year (lock-out), but I put him out there with Lemieux, even though I don't think they ever shared the ice together.
strategy
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:35 PM
QUOTE (doox @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:22 PM)

A dream team doesn't have to be about chemistry, though. It's more about picking the best individuals and throwing them together. That's why I took Luc - he was only a Pen during the half-year (lock-out), but I put him out there with Lemieux, even though I don't think they ever shared the ice together.
I guess technically I could include Gretzky. There are a ton of idiots out there with retro Gretzky St. Louis Blues jerseys. He didn't mean much to the Blues, so I left him off. I honestly did forget Shanny though.
WestcoastCanuck
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:39 PM
You can't throw someone in who only played for half a season. Career wise, Mogilny would probably crack my list for the Canucks. But no. He doesn't make it.
doox
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:43 PM
Well YOU can't make up rules halfway the thread. If they played for my team, I use 'em. My choice of Luc stands.
doox
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 2:47 PM
I just realized I forgot to add a coach - Scotty Bowman.
MapleLeafpoker
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 4:04 PM
QUOTE (doox @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:01 PM)

W - Lemieux (out of position)
C - Francis
YAYYYYYYY!!!!
QUOTE (doox @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:01 PM)

One more year and Crosby will take Ron's spot.
BOOOOOO!!!!!!
MapleLeafpoker
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 4:19 PM
Coach - Paul Maurice
GM - Jim Rutherford
my choices:
G - Mike Liut
D - Ulf Samuelsson
D - Glen Wesley
RW - Geoff Sanderson
C - Ron Francis
LW - Mikael Nylander
the "did you know"/all-star team:
G - JS Giguere
D - Chris Pronger
D - Gary Suter
RW - Gordie Howe
C - Ron Francis
LW - Bobby Hull
Theme Song- Brass Bonanza
WestcoastCanuck
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 4:50 PM
QUOTE (MapleLeafpoker @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 4:19 PM)

Coach - Paul Maurice
GM - Jim Rutherford
my choices:
G - Mike Liut
D - Ulf Samuelsson
D - Glen Wesley
RW - Geoff Sanderson
C - Ron Francis
LW - Mikael Nylander
the "did you know"/all-star team:
G - JS Giguere
D - Chris Pronger
D - Gary Suter
RW - Gordie Howe
C - Ron Francis
LW - Bobby Hull
Theme Song- Brass Bonanza
I knew all of those guys were Canes/Whalers except Suter. That one came as a surprise.
My all time coach for the Canucks is either Quinn or Roger Neilson (even though he only coached briefly, he had a massive impact).
digitalmonkey
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 4:54 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 6:39 PM)

You can't throw someone in who only played for half a season. Career wise, Mogilny would probably crack my list for the Canucks. But no. He doesn't make it.
Or Messier.
MapleLeafpoker
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 5:03 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 8:50 PM)

I knew all of those guys were Canes/Whalers except Suter. That one came as a surprise.
I have to be honest, I dont think he ever played a game for them, but I saw just last week that TSN showed him as part of the deal that sent Nylander to Hartford. Maybe it was a 3-way deal, but i dont recall that.
Hated that they traded away Nylander that day, wish they showed more patience with him. He was always my Wellwood on Hartford.
BigDMcGee
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 9:58 PM
I'll give this one a shot. I for a brief time was a Blackhawks fan, when I was playing alot of nhl video games. then wurst traded all the players I liked, and I stopped watching hockey entirely. A real blackhawks fans I hope critiques my choices..
C Jermey Roenick My all time favorite video game player to play with ( Lindros being a close second. It's a shame he was never close to the player in real life that he was in video games). He could score like a monster, and was a checkin' machine
W-Bobby Hull- hall of famer. Before my time, but his greatness was known even to the most marginal of hockey fans, like me.
W Tony Amonte Well, he's really the only other black hawk wing I can remember, so he proably has to be pretty good, if I know him. I remember he was about the only thing going for the team in 1997, when I went to a few of their games.
D- Chris Cheilos. When he was traded to the Red Wings, it pretty much singled an end to players I had heard of or cared about on the black hawks, other than amonte. But amonte really wasn't there when I was playing the video game all the time. Man, this guy ruled as a video game player.
D- um... Bob hope?
G. It probably should go to hall of famer Espo, but I never saw him play, but I did see Eddie Belfour btch slap Roy in a goalie fight ( i'm not entirely sure if this memory is legitamate) so my spot goes to the eagle.
Coach Mike Keenan. the only coach i really know, and the last coach to bring the black hawks to respectability, much less playoff success.
Reelishymn
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 10:34 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 3:54 PM)

Luongo
Ohlund
Snepts
Bure
Linden
Naslund
Some tough choices on D, the Canucks have never had any Hall of Famer D, but they have a lot of pretty good ones. I put Snepts on because I have met him and he was a good guy. Ohlund is my favourite player. Very tough to leave off Smyle.
I like the forwards (honorable mention goes to Morrison, always liked him), choosing the D-men is pretty tough like you said. I might go with Ohlund and Bieksa (became a quick fan of his); Snepsts played before my time so don't know much about him. Bobby Lu is net is obv.
strategy
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 11:19 PM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 9:58 PM)

Coach Mike Keenan. the only coach i really know, and the last coach to bring the black hawks to respectability, much less playoff success.
I think the consensus in the hockey world is that Keenan is both a terrible coach and GM. He set back the development of a lot of young players in the Panthers system while he was coach. As GM, he traded arguably the best goaltender to the Canucks for an injured headcase and spare parts. I have no idea who the best coach of the Blackhawks is though... I guess I'd go with whoever was behind the bench the last time they won the cup.
I think you should consider becoming a fan again. They're about to get good.
DanielNegreanu
Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 11:36 PM
QUOTE (serge @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 8:53 AM)

COME ON ...no Wayne Gretzky?...You have to put Wayne Gretzky on that list....Even if you have to make him a winger
Why do I have to put him on my list? I was never much of a fan and he isn't a guy that I enjoyed watching all that much. Not saying he sucks, but I'd prefer watching Jagr or Lemieux play.
BigDMcGee
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 4:23 AM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Friday, March 23rd, 2007, 11:36 PM)

Why do I have to put him on my list? I was never much of a fan and he isn't a guy that I enjoyed watching all that much. Not saying he sucks, but I'd prefer watching Jagr or Lemieux play.
@@@@@HOCKEY NOOB QUESTION ALERT@@@@@
This is a phenomenon that confuses me. As a hockey ignorant american, I've pretty much been programmed to think gretsky was "the great one", the no brain greatest hockey player of all time. But I've talked with several hockey fans, most all canadian, who think Gretzky is really over-rated, saying he was soft, benefited from playing on great teams, ect. Can someone clearly explain to me the anti-gretsky platform?
Kyle Wellwood
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 4:29 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 5:23 AM)

@@@@@HOCKEY NOOB QUESTION ALERT@@@@@
This is a phenomenon that confuses me. As a hockey ignorant american, I've pretty much been programmed to think gretsky was "the great one", the no brain greatest hockey player of all time. But I've talked with several hockey fans, most all canadian, who think Gretzky is really over-rated, saying he was soft, benefited from playing on great teams, ect. Can someone clearly explain to me the anti-gretsky platform?
Wayne Gretzky was the greatest hockey player ever to play the game. He played on great teams because he was on them..Saying he is overrated is doing an injustice to the greatest of all time, not just in hockey but in all of sports.
When you get a chance just check out some of his records. Even though he played in a different era, the numbers are just mind blowing. He was magic on the ice, he had eyes in the back of his head. As good as Sidney Crosby is right now , imagine a player 5 times better and that was Wayne Gretzky.
I really would like to hear the argument what Wayne Gretzky wasnt the greatest hockey player of all time.
BigDMcGee
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 4:47 AM
QUOTE (Kyle Wellwood @ Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 4:29 AM)

Wayne Gretzky was the greatest hockey player ever to play the game. He played on great teams because he was on them..Saying he is overrated is doing an injustice to the greatest of all time, not just in hockey but in all of sports.
When you get a chance just check out some of his records. Even though he played in a different era, the numbers are just mind blowing. He was magic on the ice, he had eyes in the back of his head. As good as Sidney Crosby is right now , imagine a player 5 times better and that was Wayne Gretzky.
I really would like to hear the argument what Wayne Gretzky wasnt the greatest hockey player of all time.
I am familar with his records. The gap between him and howe and mario is so big in alot of them, that it shocks me when I do hear the anti-gretsky argument. Also another noob question. are you serge's proxy now?
Kyle Wellwood
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 4:51 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 5:47 AM)

I am familar with his records. The gap between him and howe and mario is so big in alot of them, that it shocks me when I do hear the anti-gretsky argument. Also another noob question. are you serge's proxy now?
Serge is too depressed to post after last night...He is on "leave"
troyomac
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 5:02 AM
Boston Bruins Dream Team:
G: Cecil Thompson
D: Bobby Orr
D: Raymond Bourque
LW: Cam Neely
RW: Rick Middleton
C: Phil Esposito
Coach: Don Cherry
ajs510
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 5:06 AM
Coaches - Scotty Bowman, Lindy Ruff
Forward Line 1 - Gilbert Perreault, Rene Robert, Rick Martin
Forward Line 2 - Pat LaFontaine, Alexander Mogilny, Danny Gare
Forward Line 3 - Daniel Briere, Chris Drury, Maxim Afinogenov
Forward Line 4 - Dave Andreychuk, Dale Hawerchuk, Pierre Turgeron
Fan Favorite Line - Matthew Barnaby, Rob Ray, Mike Foligno
Defense:
Phil Housley
Lindy Ruff
Brian Campbell
Jim Schoenfeld
Phillipe Boucher
Tim Horton
Goalies:
Dominik Hasek
Ryan Miller
Tom Barrasso
Honorable Mentions:
Thomas Vanek, Brad May, Jim Lorentz, Rick Vaive, Miroslav Satan, Martin Biron, Larry Carriere, Mike Ramsey, many, many more.
Zach6668
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 8:16 AM
BigD
When you look at Mario's stats vs Wayne's, take a look at the games played category. You'll see Gretz was lucky enough to stay healthy his whole career, while Mario dealt with a terrible back, cancer, heart problems, among other things. Unless it dropped significantly since his comeback, Mario should have the highest points-per-game total. He did, at least, when he retired the first time in 97.
Not to take anything away from Gretzky, who was an amazing player, but personally, I think Mario had more raw talent, just unfortunately, didn't get the chances to match the numbers. Also, a lot of people will say the same of Bobby Orr.
hockey fan
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 9:17 AM
Of the Leafs I have seen.....
Obviously heavy on the late 70's and mid '90s teams with a few current players in the mix as honorable mentions.
C- Darryl Sittler (Gilmour, Sundin, Keon)
RW- Lanny McDonald (Vaive, Mogilny, Ellis)
LW- Wendel Clark (Damphousse, Henderson, Thompson)
D1- Ian Turnbull (Kaberle, Macoun, Yuskevich)
D2- Borje Salming (McCabe, Ellett, Iafrate)
G- Curtis Joseph (Potvin, Belfour, Palmateer)
Coach- Pat Burns (Pat Quinn, Roger Neilson)
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