I was curious to see how many of their own draft choices teams had on their current rosters...



Heres a few teams...

Montreal Canadiens 12

Mike Komisarek/2001/7th
Andrei Markov/1998/162nd
Mark Streit/2004/262nd
Chris Higgins/2002/14th
Saku Koivu/1993/21st
Andrei Kostitsyn/2003/10th
Maxim Lapierre/2003/61st
Guillaume Latendresse/2005/45th
Alexander Perezhogin/2001/25th
Tomas Plekanec/2001/71st
Michael Ryder/1998/216th
Jaroslav Halak/2003/271st


Buffalo Sabres 12

Ryan Miller/1999/138th
Brian Campbell/1997/156th
Dimitri Kalinin/1998/18th
Nathan Paetsch/2003/202nd
Henrik Tallinder/1997/48th
Clarke MacArthur/2003/74th
Daniel Paille/2002/20th
Andrew Peters/1998/34th
Jason Pomminville/2001/55th
Derek Roy/2001/32nd
Drew Stafford/2004/13th
Thomas Vanek/2003/5th


Ottawa Senators 12

Ray Emery/2001/99th
Andrej Meszaros/2004/23rd
Chris Phillips/1996/1st
Christoph Schubert/2001/127th
Anton Volchenkov/2000/21st
Daniel Alfredsson/1994/133rd
Patrick Eaves/2003/29th
Mike Fisher/1998/44th
Chris Kelly/1999/94th
Chris Neil/1998/161st
Jason Spezza/2001/2nd
Antoine Vermette/2000/55th


Without checking, what team do you think has the most?

2
Phoenix

3
Calgary
New York Islanders

4
Anaheim
Chicago

5
Atlanta
New York Rangers

6
Boston
Nashville

7
Carolina
Florida
Los Angeles

8
Columbus
Dallas
Minnesota
Tampa Bay
Vancouver

9
Detroit
Philadelphia
Toronto

10
Colorado
St. Louis

11
Washington

12
Montreal
Ottawa
Buffalo

13
Edmonton
New Jersey

14
Pittsburgh

15
San Jose


* I used www.tsn.ca as source for rosters.

did you includes undrafted FA's in that? i actually though new jersey was leading the league in own draft picks but we lost hale at the deadline and i guess greene, rafalski and madden were all undrafted

as a sharks fan I knew we were highest (they've mentioned it on our telecast before) I was surprised to see Anaheim so low. I didn't think edmonton would have that many. Not surprising at all to see some of the bad teams with so few. phoenix only has 2? good god.

No I did not include undrafted free agents in my list of drafted players.

Anaheim has had some recent success signing free agents out of college.

Cue serge's Dustin Penner rant.

I was going to say the same thing, but he probably doesn't know how Anaheim acquired him. He probably thinks Penner grew from magic beans.

Seeing San Jose at the top I realize this is what Dean Lombardi wants to do with the Kings. I have no problem with it.

I think it's necessary with the salary cap.

I thought Pittsburgh was up there or highest - didn't realize San Jose was the highest, though.

I really dont know what this actually means...

Is it good to have a high number of own draft picks or a good mixture of both??

Anaheim,Atlanta and Nashville are succesful teams without too many draft picks...

I am very happy with the current leafs...Good draftpicks(especially late) like Kaberle and Wellwood
and also good trades Sundin,Tucker,Mccabe

The notion is that the Leafs build through free agency...This is not true at all

serge it just gives a little insight into how these teams have been built. the reason people say the leafs "build through free-agency" is because they tend to sign high-profile name players. Older guys who have made big impacts (many of them canadian) sort of like the yankees except without the championships.

lets see if I can name the 15 sharks. my guess

hannan
vlasic
ehrhoff (sp is so wrong)
davidson
clowe
bernier
michalek
cheechoo
marleau
toskala
nabokov
smith
pavelski
goc
rissmiller

edit: left carle off. I think riss was a undrafted fa

I will argue that one way is not better than another...With the salary cap it will be very difficult to keep a team together like the Penguins or the Sabres...

THe Sabres are already facing it and the Penguins have a 3-5 year window before they run into problems.

yes, if it was so easy then everyone would be doing it, but the draft is the best way to build an organization. it means if you lose people you can replace them cheaply. I think the pens expect that before that 3-5 year window they will have at least one championship. that's the idea. then you must scale back and rebuild for another championship.

I think any "contender" really only has 1 or sometimes 2 or 3 years where they really have a chance to win the cup. I would argue that teams that build through the draft have a better chance at extending this window than a free-agency built team. you can't keep everyone every year, so you need to plug those holes. young guys allow this to be done cheaply. that's why a team like the sharks will make a run this year and even though they will lose some of their assests, they will most likely have a chance at another cup in the next few seasons.

Leafs have been running into problems for what, 40 years?

Aren't those good problems to have? As opposed to having to keep together your pile of Leaf mediocrity? I'd rather be faced with the dilemna of trying to keep together a young superstar team anyday....

why cant you actually make reasonable points instead of bashing...

The fact of the matter is Buffalo will have to let go of one or two of their top players next year...

Yes, and they have someone like Stafford to step right into the open spot. Who are the Leafs grooming to take over for Sundin?

You are completely oblivious and trying to have an intelligent discussion with you is impossible.

I actually believe that Buffalo is a rarity when it comes to AHL talent....It wont work for most teams...

It will work for the teams like Buffalo, Montreal, San Jose, etc...check out where they are on the list.

People dont give us enough credit..Good young guys playing for the Marlies.

I guessed SJ correctly, but then i recalled I too may have seen it on one of their telecasts. I was also watching tonights game at the time, so that helped.

As Im watching, I really believe this team is my favourite for the Cup. I think they just have the kind of fwd lines the Canes had last year, but with more top end talent. And I have to believe Joe+Marleau will have a chip on their shoulder about past playoff disappointments. Im not a fan of goalie tandems, but theirs is sick.

Yeah, I like them to hoist the Cup. Think I'll find the odds and lay some coin down.

And what an impressive way to win if they do....15drafted players, wow.

but ironically their best player was not drafted by them...

I wont debate the best player=Thornton part for now, but I will say they acquired him due to their drafting as well. Sturm+Stuart original Sharks.

I just wanted to add that Buffalo also has guys like Afinogenov, Kotalik and Gaustad that they drafted but are not on the current roster due to injury. However, this likely wouldn't affect the total as guys like Paille, MacArthur and Stafford are on the current roster due to those injuries.


I think MapleLeafsPoker touched upon the thing that Serge doesn't seem to comprehend. Drafting well and developing quality prospects gives a team great assets that can be used to add big pieces to the puzzle. No Thornton wasn't a Sharks draft pick, but as was pointed out Sturm and Stuart were and they were traded for Thornton. This is where the Leafs have gone wrong in the past...I don't feel they've developed many quality assets.