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hblask
...and what do I do on the river?

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.05
UTG+1: $7.55
hblask: $24.45
Button: $28.60
SB: $2.70
BB: $9.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) hblask is CO with K icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif
2 folds, hblask raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9 icon_suit_spade.gif 2 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, hblask checks.

Turn: K icon_suit_spade.gif (2.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, hblask raises, BB calls.

River: Q icon_suit_spade.gif (6.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, hblask bets, BB raises, hblask ????.
NocturnalRob
you may be missing a bet, but i go ahead and call. not sure how the villain plays, but j10? backed into a spade?

regardless, i think you go ahead and call. lot of hands that beat you.
Zach6668
Bet the flop!
donk4life
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Wednesday, March 21st, 2007, 7:07 PM) *
Bet the flop!
hblask
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Wednesday, March 21st, 2007, 6:07 PM) *
Bet the flop!



OK, I'm interested in hearing more about this. This has seemed to be one of my big leaks in the past -- continuation bets with K-high. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet. I'm wondering if this has some bigger purpose, because at this level it hasn't worked for me.
donk4life
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, March 21st, 2007, 8:57 PM) *
OK, I'm interested in hearing more about this. This has seemed to be one of my big leaks in the past -- continuation bets with K-high. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet. I'm wondering if this has some bigger purpose, because at this level it hasn't worked for me.



I dunno, I just wanted to repeat what Zach said..
Zach6668
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, March 21st, 2007, 8:57 PM) *
OK, I'm interested in hearing more about this. This has seemed to be one of my big leaks in the past -- continuation bets with K-high. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet. I'm wondering if this has some bigger purpose, because at this level it hasn't worked for me.

1) Most players fold enough to make it profitable.

2) Free river, ie check through on the turn, if you miss.

3) Ability to fire the turn, if we'd prefer a free showdown, although I would make this play with Ace high, before King high.

4) We get solid info if we're raised on the flop. Usually we can call, and fold turn UI.

5) It's heads up and aggression pwns.

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Btw, I just call the river, as played. A flop bet might have folded, or at least charged a bdfd. tongue.gif
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Wednesday, March 21st, 2007, 9:05 PM) *
1) Most players fold enough to make it profitable.

2) Free river, ie check through on the turn, if you miss.

3) Ability to fire the turn, if we'd prefer a free showdown, although I would make this play with Ace high, before King high.

4) We get solid info if we're raised on the flop. Usually we can call, and fold turn UI.

5) It's heads up and aggression pwns.

biggrin.gif


Btw, I just call the river, as played. A flop bet might have folded, or at least charged a bdfd. tongue.gif




6) we may actually have the best hand


you can't forget that fact. not betting this flop=bad. as is, I'm calling the river. He could very well have a worse two pair, and we certainly aren't ahead anywhere near enough to three bet
CoranMoran
The flop bet is something you must start doing.

QUOTE
There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet
Many opponents will defend their big blind with junk.
And so they will fold the flop if they wiff.

And if they don't, that's good too!
Because then you just got in a value bet against his garbage hand.

QUOTE
Btw, I just call the river, as played

QUOTE
as is, I'm calling the river. He could very well have a worse two pair, and we certainly aren't ahead anywhere near enough to three bet


Interesting.

Villain's play tells me that the Q improved his hand.
But I feel that it probably helped my hand more.
I expect to see a lesser 2 pair much more often than a backdoored Flush.

I 3bet this river.

And while I hate raise-folding, I don't expect to necessarily be capped by the FLush.
So the damage shouldn't be too bad.

--CM
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