Game #3483224563: 7 Card FL ($1/$2) - 2007/03/16 - 00:08:16 (UK)
Table "Adria"
Seat 1: Toetitac ($37 in chips)
Seat 2: Joan23097 ($82.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Kenn26031 ($88.58 in chips)
Seat 4: bundys2 ($93 in chips)
Seat 5: Timeshare ($73.62 in chips)
Seat 6: Guines001 ($32.25 in chips)
Seat 7: mummysboy ($40 in chips)
Seat 8: Tsunami7 ($15.75 in chips)
Timeshare: posts the ante $0.25
Guines001: posts the ante $0.25
Joan23097: posts the ante $0.25
Kenn26031: posts the ante $0.25
mummysboy: posts the ante $0.25
Tsunami7: posts the ante $0.25
Toetitac: posts the ante $0.25
bundys2: posts the ante $0.25
----- 3rd STREET -----
dealt to Toetitac [Jd]
dealt to Joan23097 [7h]
dealt to Kenn26031 [4d]
dealt to bundys2 [7s Ks Kd]
dealt to Timeshare [Qh]
dealt to Guines001 [Ac]
dealt to mummysboy [8c]
dealt to Tsunami7 [6h]
Kenn26031: brings-in $0.50
bundys2: calls $0.50
Timeshare: calls $0.50
Guines001: calls $0.50
mummysboy: folds
Tsunami7: folds
Toetitac: calls $0.50
Joan23097: calls $0.50
----- 4th STREET -----
dealt to Toetitac [Jd][Kc]
dealt to Joan23097 [7h][9s]
dealt to Kenn26031 [4d][9c]
dealt to bundys2 [7s Ks Kd][3s]
dealt to Timeshare [Qh][5h]
dealt to Guines001 [Ac][5c]
Guines001: checks
Toetitac: checks
Joan23097: bets $1
Kenn26031: calls $1
bundys2: calls $1
Timeshare: calls $1
Guines001: calls $1
Toetitac: calls $1
----- 5th STREET -----
dealt to Toetitac [Jd Kc][2s]
dealt to Joan23097 [7h 9s][Th]
dealt to Kenn26031 [4d 9c][Jc]
dealt to bundys2 [7s Ks Kd 3s][8s]
dealt to Timeshare [Qh 5h][Qs]
dealt to Guines001 [Ac 5c][4h]
Timeshare: checks
Guines001: checks
Toetitac: checks
Joan23097: bets $2
Kenn26031: calls $2
bundys2: calls $2
Timeshare: calls $2
Guines001: calls $2
Toetitac: folds
----- 6th STREET -----
dealt to Joan23097 [7h 9s Th][2c]
dealt to Kenn26031 [4d 9c Jc][8h]
dealt to bundys2 [7s Ks Kd 3s 8s][4s]
dealt to Timeshare [Qh 5h Qs][3d]
dealt to Guines001 [Ac 5c 4h][Tc]
Timeshare: checks
Guines001: checks
Joan23097: bets $2
mummysboy sits out
Kenn26031: calls $2
bundys2: raises $4
Timeshare: folds
Guines001: calls $4
Joan23097: calls $2
Kenn26031: calls $2
----- RIVER -----
dealt to bundys2 [7s Ks Kd 3s 8s 4s][As]
Guines001: bets $2
Joan23097: calls $2
Kenn26031: calls $2
bundys2:

If this river was heads up i wouldn't hesistate to raise for a sec. But am i ahead enough times to raise a 4 way river?

I would raise...

You're playing with a bunch of calling stations, you know that?

Looks like you're ahead here with the AK flush.

I don't see any full houses out there, unless they're using all 3 down cards.

Great. I just lost 3 BBs in this hand alone.

Talk about missing value.

lol I don't play stud. I doubt I could figure that all out while playing, lol.

Yes, raise and cap river at Crypto $1/$2.

I'd raise 3rd here. You only have 1 ace behind you, go ahead and raise. If he three bets after we've represented kings its alot easier to get away from the hand. Just calling and getting called behind makes it so difficult to put him on a hand. I've read through most of your other hands and notice you tend to be a little passive on 4th and 5th in multiway pots, leading to difficult decison later of when to dump a pair. When I start with AA or KK, or any pair higher than anyones board cards, I come out firing and don't stop until someone else in the hand gives me a reason to. If they make a stronger hand they will raise and let you know. But if you are check calling you have no clue where you stand in the hand. Also, don't worry about giving away your hand. Half these people arn't even looking at your cards and the other the other half doesn't know how to fold a hand, so just keep betting and raising, someone will call. Its not like omaha where a raise usually means aces. Depending on other players door cards my raise with and ace could be from a second ace in the hole, a smaller pair, even 3 to flush with over cards to everyones elses door card. Sure I'm representing the ace by raising, but until I actually show it down most players aren't going to believe it.

As 3rd was played out in this hand, I raise 4th to see where I am at. The guy showing an ace just called the bring in, then checked 4th. He has yet to show an ounce of strenght so he probably doesn't have aces. If anyone else made a smaller two pair a raise here will usual uncover it, as they would likely three bet. If we are beat by a smaller two pair we're still just under 50% to make higher two pair.

As far as 7th I would definetly raise here. As bad as these people play I highly doubt anyone is folding to only one more bet. So raising nets us three extra bets most of the time. Where as, it cost us two bets when we are beat, one for our raise, and a second for having to call the villans third bet. So, we could be up against a boat here over 50% of the time and it would still be a +EV play.

exactly what ricer said.

as played, re-raise 7th.

for the rest of the hand,

raise 3rd.

as played, raise 4th.

as played, raise 5th.

That's what I was going to say...

Easy raise on the river.