Pancake is dealt K K in the BB
1 fold, MP calls, CO raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Pancake 3-bets, MP calls, CO calls, SB calls

Flop: A T 8
SB checks, Pancake bets, MP calls, CO raises, SB calls, Pancake...

Here is my dilemma. I'm behind here close to a hundred percent of the time. So am I getting proper odds to make a call with a 2-outer?

It's close.

We're getting 18-1 immediate, and certainly MP will call again, so really 19-1.

It's good if we win every time we hit, and gain 2 BBs after, which we will.

But, what really worries me here is that QJ is a definite possibility for one of the two limpers/callers, as they have a double gutter now, and we certainly are gonna be faced with some ROI if we hit the King and they make their straight, albeit we have 10 outs to beat it if we do hit it...

Tough to say. I'd be more likely to call though, despite what I said.

What are the odds of hitting a 2 outer with one card?

Uh... 47 cards unseen... 2 good cards, so 1/23.5, aka 22.5-1

So being a little short on odds, mixed with the RIO, this should be a fold? Or is it too close to even matter much?
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unless villain is a tight straightforward abc player, I'd call down believing that its more like 50/50

QJ can raise here
KQ can raise here butt hat's silly

AP players are known to raise pp in position here in order to see a free river (.5bb cheaper this way)

and of course Ax raises as well as set.

Well, RIO only comes into play when they have QJ, or the guy has AA, really.

We're getting 19-1, really, on the flop, so we only need to make up 3.5 SB, which is less than 2 full BB, which is insanely easy vs 3 opponents.

I'd probably lean towards calling.

But we still have to worry bout the caller and CC.

o ! I totally didn't see the 3rd player. 18:1 I peel knowing that at least 3bbs will come in if I hit set.

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