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mikeysong
Villain is 35.41/17.9/1.83

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) POCKETROCKETS is UTG with A icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_club.gif
POCKETROCKETS raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q icon_suit_spade.gif K icon_suit_diamond.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif (4.67SB, 2 players)
BB checks, POCKETROCKETS bets, BB raises, POCKETROCKETS 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: T icon_suit_diamond.gif (5.33BB, 2 players)
BB checks, POCKETROCKETS bets, BB raises, POCKETROCKETS ????????
Zach6668
I check/fold the flop.
SCS
I think I fold here. The only hand that I can put villain on here that we beat is AK. The only other hands I can think of that villain could have that he plays this way is KK, KQ, or AQ. Is he betting JJ like this? I wouldn't think he is. At this point we're also way behind the AJ.
mikeysong
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, March 9th, 2007, 9:58 AM) *
I check/fold the flop.


did you even take a look at the hand?
Zach6668
Yeah, and I don't win with aces. I was gonna say fold preflop, but we should probably see if we can spike quads.

AKA, I play it the same. And I puke on the turn, and I call down because I ****ing suck balls at poker.
CoranMoran
With position, I would typically call the flop to set up the check-raise on the turn.

As played, I call down.

QUOTE
The only hand that I can put villain on here that we beat is AK. The only other hands I can think of that villain could have that he plays this way is KK, KQ, or AQ. Is he betting JJ like this? I wouldn't think he is. At this point we're also way behind the AJ.
The only hand I am worried about is a lucky Q.

Villain does not have the straight.
He 3bets preflop with AJ.
And I doubt he check raises the flop with a J9 gut shot.

Villain does not have a Full House.
KK & TT 3bet preflop.


Villain could have check-raised the flop with any K.
And if he held KT, he would probably get excited and raise the turn again.
But we are still ahead here.

Villain may have had a draw on the flop that paired up on the turn.
JT.
T7 of clubs.
These hands may have inspired an odd (bad) double check-raise.

These hands don't seem likely.
But since Villain was in the BB, his starting hand range may be wide.
And since the board is very coordinated, an overaggressive player may make some big moves at this pot with less than AA.

The board is too dangerous for us to be more aggressive.
But without a specifically Tight read, I would never fold my Aces here.

Call down.


QUOTE
I check/fold the flop.


Someone's grumpy.


--CM
MrNiceGuy
I dunno... I know it seems passive, but I like a simple calldown after he check-raises the flop (unless an A or a Q hits).

When he check-raises the flop, he either has a K, a Q, or a very weak hand with at most 4 outs. He's aggressive, so if he has the weak hand I'd like to just call and give him a chance to keep betting (particularly since if we 3-bet, he'll likely just fold any underpair).

When he has a hand, he has a K roughly 60% of the time and a Q roughly 40%. But if we raise, it's likely a win one/lose two scenario. So I don't think the odds are there for a raise even when he has a legitimate hand (and I don't want to fold him when he doesn't).

If villain is a very stubborn bluffer, who is likely to keep bluffing with air, then I'd play it as OP did. But against most TAGs, I call down (although I might consider raising the river UI, depending on what the final board looks like).
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