MP1 has been known to be a maniac at the table, very loose. He was in an earlier position and pushed with T high, he then pushed again with K high and got called down with AA. Hence, his current stack. I am positive that his range was very wide, so do I call in this position? Or should I fold and wait for a better position to pick him off, or just a better position to increase my stack in general.

$3r on Stars. Still aways from getting into money. I'll post results after a few responses.

PS: It's been awhile since I've posted in strat, so hopefully this is the right procedure.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

MP1 (t3445)
MP2 (t10850)
MP3 (t24725)
CO (t9975)
Button (t34170)
SB (t9800)
Kuge (t8375)
UTG (t7380)
UTG+1 (t12945)

Preflop: Kuge is BB with Q , K .
2 folds, MP1 raises to t3420, 5 folds, Kuge calls t3020.

Flop: (t6640) 2 , 4 , 3 (2 players)

Turn: (t6640) 8 (2 players)

River: (t6640) 8 (2 players)

Final Pot: t6640

I wouldn't show the board at all, just the fact that you called his all in w/ KQ high.


What kind of tourney is this (besides a donkament, heh) Buy-in? ITM yet? How many people left?

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I don't think risking >1/3 your stack against an unknown hand is ever a good idea w/ KQ... He's been acting crazy, but he could easily have an A here and you're behind.

I don't think it's worth the risk. OMG tell me your K high took the pot?!

Based on your read/ what you have seen him turn over it seems like a very +ev call to me. You are only a 3-2 dog to most of the hands you are behind, you are ahead of far more, and you dominate K8, K9, KT, KJ, QJ, QT, Q9 and that is a very tight had range to give him seeing as he pushed T high.

He's a LAG player and his M is down to about 6, so he's pretty desperate. He could be pushing with pretty much anything to steal the blinds. Like offset said, you're ahead of most of the hands he could be pushing with, you have the opportunity to go heads-up with him since everyone else has folded, and you can do so without risking any more than the original call. Winning this hand will bump you up in the chip standings, while losing it will hurt but won't kill you. You'll still have more than 10BB to work with. I say stand up to him.

Against anyone with some slight semblance of credibility, I'd fold. But the way you describe this guy, I'd probably have to call. It's almost like--even though some would say this doesn't exist in poker--you owe it to the table to stand up to him. KWIM?

Against his range, which I would say is about the top 20% of hands, you're about a coinflip. I probably fold though.

With his range of hands you should be ahead if you call. Do I like calling? Not really. You cannot be concerned about one player. If he is a push donk at this point, let someone else take him out or wait for a bit better hand. Busting will make the table happy but will not affect you chip position all that much. You are sitting in yellow zone and a win puts you to the green a loss to the orange.

I think I'd rather sit in the yellow and pick a better spot.

You would jump ahead of a couple stacks with the win but you'll still only have an average sized stack compared to the rest of the table. I think you can hold on for a better spot. Villain won't be around much longer anyway.

He will if he keeps scooping up the blinds! I mean, you've got a point in that calling is problematic: no FIV, no FE. But while it may be silly to think this way (since everyone is out for themselves at least in theory), I would tend to have an attitude of "take one for the team". As long as the push donk is on auto-shove, you (and everyone else at the table) can't play any poker, meaning you can't win any pots, meaning you just dwindle while he gets stronger--and then at some point he either doubles up and passes you, or donates his (by this point sizable stack of) chips to someone who finally calls him with a premium pair or whatever.

I hear that. This may well be a time to make a stand and I wouldn't blame you if you did. I just not sure if this is the spot to be doing it. I just have in my head, 'let the donk take out some of the better players, I can will get their chips from the donk.' I think I would call if this would make me the table chip leader or at least closer to being the big stack. Cash game, I'd would call in a heartbeat but I don't want to move into orange zone thinking where luck plays a bigger factor if I do not have to.

This is actually an excellent point. Now that you mention it, I've definitely found myself in situations where I was glad to see a donk hit some lucky draws and soak up chips like a bloated sponge, because experience had shown me that they would pay off like an ATM when the time is right.

Based on your read and previous hands, I'd call. Not sure what the average is but it looks like you are below and far from the money. I think that you're at least 50/50 and you still have a workable stack if you lose this pot.

Thanks for the information guys, I really should post here more often.

BTW: Villian hand A8os

Yeah, come on back! I would say tough turn and river, but I guess anything but a Q or K would have worked out for him. Still, you were almost a coinflip preflop.