fleung22
Tuesday, March 6th, 2007, 11:18 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Tuesday, March 6th, 2007, 10:22 AM)

I agree that It's braveheart, and it's not even close. I know I give braveheart a good razzing in the forums, but it is a rather enjoyable epic movie.. a little long, a few too many "dramatic" scenes, a little too fast and easy with historical facts, but still it's a fun movie. And brutal violence, if that's your cup of tea, and it sure is mine.
Gladiator has a few things going against it. One, its absurd. The plot does not suspend my disbelief. Two it's starting Russel "the most overrated actor in hollywood" crowe. I think he has Kostner level of lack of emotional and dramatic range. I think he's particularly bad in this movie. His oscar winning performance just leads me to believe that the oscars are proably a rigged and bribe filled travesty. 3. The gladiator scenes were good, but they followed an anticlimactic arch. The best one was the first, the chariot scene. An absolute spectacle, one of the most amazing fight scenes on film. The next one was the tiger scene, also a very good scene. The third was against the champion gladiator. Fairly ho-hum fight scene compared to the two previous. The final scene was against the emperor, and it was terrible. Not even a fight scene, really. I think, if you're making an action movie ( and this certainly is a action movie, because the drama of the movie is ludicrous and banal), then you have to build the action, you have to make each fight scene better than the one before it ( with the exception of perhaps starting off with a bang, then bringing it down, and slowly building up to a cresendo.) the action has to get better. If you shoot your wad with the first fight scene, and slowly get worse, well, that's just bad directing.
I don't think this debate is even close, braveheart ftw.
I enjoyed both movies but I LOVE Braveheart. I think Gladiator seemed more one dimensional. As cool as the fight scenes were in Gladiator that's about the only place where there could be a debate for me. Outside of that, Braveheart was a had more going for it whether it was love, revenge, male bonding, or freedom. The King of England was much more evil than Commodus.
I don't share your dislike for Russel Crowe but I liked his Bud character from LA Confidential more than Maximus.
Interestingly enough there's a large number of Gladiator fans who didn't care much for Braveheart and I'm curious as to what aspects they found so charming. Maybe it's the genre or the recreation of the great arena.