You are in a one table single table satellite that pays just the one winner. Of the 10 remaining players you are now the short stack with about 80,000 in chips, with blinds at 3000-6000 with an ante. You pick up two red jacks in first position and make it 18,000 to go leaving you with about 60,000.

I'm in the big blind and call you. The flop comes 9-6-2 all clubs. I move all in on you and it's up to you.

I'm pretty new to this, so I'm probably wrong, but I would call. If I was short stacked, with 2 jacks I would have probably moved all in before the flop, but since I didn't, I would still have to call. You have probably either got the flush or are on a draw, or possibly just trying to represent that you have it. But since it's a satellite tourament, and there's only one winner I'd need to make a move, and since I still have top pair I would have to call. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You still have 10xBB if you fold this hand. I think folding is the better option and wait for a better spot to put all your chips in. If the flush wasn't already made, your opponent is probably at least drawing to that 4th club and his club making him at least a king high flush. So hes got the 9 outs to the flush and the 3 other outs for the overcard to pair his king or better. So he's got 12 outs with 2 cards to come. I think folding and waiting for a better spot is the best option in this case.

FOLD!

I would love to give all of you some intellectual reasoning that would make everyone go "wow, Theresa is one smart chick" but all I can say is from experience, I use to call situations like this and I always got burned. I [size=18]ABSOLUTELY HATE JACKS! They look so pretty, like they have some importance, but that flop is dangerous and not because someone can have the flush, but because of all of the other possibilities.

1. Your opponent could have a set of 6's (or 2's, or 9's.)
2. Your opponent could have 2 pair, like a pair of 9's and a pair of 6's.
3. Your opponent could have a straight draw (think about how many times you have played 7-8 suited, because after all, it is a connector)
4. Could my opponent be soft playing a pair of Kings, Queens or Aces? Maybe, probably not but I see it done more than I am comfortable with.
5. Yeah, your opponent could have the flush or worse, and ace of clubs and catch an ace on the turn or the river or get another club.

So, what can I get to help me out that won't help my opponent... another jack? I already have half of them. Good chance with the other 10 players that some one laid down a jack 5 off suit (I seem to get that hand all of the time). So what really are my chances?

I really suck at math, I will be the first one to say so. I look at cards as pieces to a puzzle and to me it looks like there are just more middle pieces than end pieces to go around.

I raised, the other person re-raised, would I be calling on ego or do I have the best hand? I can tell you that every time I ignore this question, I get burned. I think I have the nuts because I have a higher pair than what is on the board but do I? Can I come back with the stack I have? This is a tough one but my thinking is that I should fold.

( Yeah, I know I say I use to hold onto the jacks. But truth be told, I did so last night! And yes, I was out of the game. It was a 10 person tournament, no sattelite though, just a friendly "practice" game. I thought the guy was bluffing. Guess what he had? A set! It takes a really long time for me to learn! :oops: )

I fold.

My reason for this is that it's simply DANIEL NEGREANU who is moving in on me. Dan will call all sorts of raises with hands that might've hit that flop hard. Daniel's so unpredictable that it's not worth the risk. You still have 10 big blinds in your stack so you're short, but not desperate. I just think the risk is too big going up against Daniel. Sure, he's absolutely good enough to be bullying me out at this point, and he very well may be. But there's also a good chance he has, at the very least, a great draw.

I think the correct move is to fold. It's not really too close of a decision in my opinion. Annie Duke folded her hooks in the Tournament of Champions. There are simply too many hands that could draw out on you at this point. Daniel could have hit that flop in a lot of ways. It's hard to imagine him putting you all-in right away with a flush as he may or may not trap you. However, he could very well have a hand like A9 with the ace of clubs. There are many coinflip hands right now and it's not worth the risk to double up especially if it only pays first place. If you fold, you have plenty of chips still. You are not crippled quite yet.

Calll
You probably have A-K or A-Q when you called me. Now I have to fiqure if you have a four flush, but I am figuring you have at least the A of clubs. But also if you made the flush with the A, you would slow play it and try and get more chips from me. If you slow play me and I smell a trap then you still win the pot. So I think you have a four flush and call.
But then again, that is what you think, I may think, and I fell for your trap cause you have the flush.

I call. I am shortstacked, and I need to double up soon. The blinds/antes are 12k per round, so I have to go all in in the next two rounds. The chances of me picking up a monster are slim. The chances of me going all in and getting called by a better hand are good. I think the chance of me winning this hand is around 45%, but there's already 36k in the pot, so I call.

3/9 of the time you have me crushed (set,flush,over-pair, two-pair)
2/9 its a coinflip(overcards with flush draw)
3/9 I am slightly ahead(vs a pair with a flush draw)
1/9 I have you crushed (just a pair, overcards, or a complete bluff)

The hand that I am really afraid of are trips 99,66,22. Its not likely that you have an overpair, you would probably re-raise before the flop. Your push indicates that you don't have a low or a high flush, you wouldn't call that big of a raise from a shortstack with low suited connectors, not enough implied odds there. Same goes for two-pair, with that garbage flop, its unlikely that you would call 18k to get my 78k.

It is likely that you have two overcards with a club like Ace of clubs and Jack of diamonds, with this it is a coinflip for me.

The other likely possibility is that you think I have high cards with a club, and you're trying to get that 36k in the pot with your pocket pair. With that garbage flop, you think your pocket pair is good. Plus if I do have a real monster like AA, KK, you still have that flush draw, which is very likely to be alive. You still have an out.

I don't think you can correctly assess the situation by saying 3/9 of the time he has you crushed, 2/9 of the time it's a coinflip, etc. You cannot put numbers on what percent chance he has you beat or you have him beat. Also, you stated you probably have 45% chance to win. Assuming this is correct, why would you call? You have less than 55% of your chips committed to the pot...calling would be a mathematical error. Once again, I would fold because I honestly feel that I have higher than 55% chance to win it all if I fold. I would not gamble it all on a coinflip.

If you're 45% favorite (thats hypotethetical), then pot odds say call.
Keep in mind that there's 36k+antes already in the pot, so when you call rest of your 62k stack, you're not winning 124k, you're winning 150k. So you only need 40% confidence to call. However in the end poker is a game of incomplete information, and that 45% chance of winning is just a guess of mine.

If I was playing Daniel, I would go for it. There's no way I can outplay him, so I am happy to take a coinflip. This is better than being blinded out, or going all in with a marginal hand like AT, and getting called by AQ later. If I was playing some guy in my local casino, I would probably fold, and find a better spot.

I'd like to know what the other chip counts are. single table satelitte with ten people left and you are short stacked with 80,000??? To me this is a weird situation. No one has busted yet and being the short stack with still a relatively large amount of chips for being in last place. This is a tough decision for me to make. When I play satelittes I like to take chances since only the winner pays. I voted for call but now I'm not so sure if that's really what I would do, I'm really torn on this question.

Well... MY first thoughts were:

When told I was playing with Daniel at the table "How the heck am I playing with him!?"

When told that Daniel went all-in on me "Son of a $*@^#!!"

Those helpfull thoughts aside, first I would keep in mind how Daniel likes to play "trash hands" or low cards, and if he saw me bet before the flop, I figure that he thinks he can outplay me post flop just as much as he could have a "good" starting hand. The 4 to a flush posiblity is very real, as are the chances of some overcards. He could just as well figure I missed my flop with a couple of high cards and try to get me off my hand. I lean towards calling, with keeping in mind that first place is the only one paid, and I need to do some damage to get first. I understand all the reasons I could be against great drawing hands... dunno... maybe I just want to call Daniel.


Anyway, I hope that the answer we get is, "Fold. I have 2 pair. Duh."

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See... now I have changed my mind already. Some how, some way, I forgot that I had my most hated hand in all of poker... and I think I would get rid of it because of the nightmares it gives me. J/J is a scary hand, and I think I just might get rid of it.

One could fault me for indecisiveness...

I think you fold. The pre-flop raise shortstacked for 18,000 in first position screams of pocket pair (10s, Js, Qs) and Daniel, being Daniel, has probably put you on one of those hands. Now Daniel is first to act on the flop and he raises you all in. Why would he do this if he knows you have a high pocket pair? I think its because Daniel is looking for your call, hoping you can't get away from your pocket pair shortstacked. Daniel probably has a flush, 2 pair, or a straight flush draw at best for you.

The only way you might call here is if you think that Daniel may have put you on overcards which is doubtful because he would move in on you with any pair or draw as well, in which case, you may -still- want to fold.

Also I think knowing that Daniel can play a wide variety of hands from the BB is useless. Because he knows that you know that, and can use that to exploit his table image, another way to try and get you to call him on the possibility that he has a "trash hand".

Yes, if you fold, your even more shortstacked, but I really think that Daniel has you beat.

Edit: Reading other peoples posts, I don't think looking at this from a mathematical standpoint based on odds is the right way to go about it. What does it matter if you make the right mathematical play and still lose the hand? If you call and lose, your out. This isn't a cash game where you can re-fuel saying to yourself that in the long run that play will win you money. Tournaments are about survival. And if your going to make your stand, shortstacked, its always better to be the one pushing in all his chips than to be the one calling with all his chips unless you have a monster.

I would fold. Three low clubs on the flop? JJ is a pretty hand but it's not that seductive.

I'm guessing Daniel could have a low flush, attempting to scare away anyone with a higher club who might get their flush on the turn or river... Either that, or he could have A:club: , and even worse, bullets with one of them being the club. He could have any club at all and possibly hit his flush. I have little to nothing that would really benefit me on the turn or river, except miracle jacks.

The situation looks bleak. I get sour whenever I see a flop in which I don't see at least one color match at all. I consider it rather unlucky, and I'd have to say I would wait for a better time to push the rest of my chips in.

It's better to be the aggressor when you're low on chips, instead of having to get backed into a corner and hand your chips over. I know I'm not playing well when the majority of my big hands involve me constantly calling the other guy.

Hmm, very tricky Danny. It's pretty tough to figure out what he's got here. A flush is possible but unlikely. He could be trying to protect a strong hand from a 4-flush (i.e. a set or two pair). I think the most likely hand is something like A:club: 9:heart: or K:club: T:heart: both of which are virtual coinflips. With about 40k already in the pot we are getting about 5:3 on the call.

First off I try to get Daniel to talk because hey, that'd be fun and maybe I could get a little feel for his hand. Maybe, it's worth a shot. The main hand I'd be worried about is a set of nines or sixes. But I'd go ahead and call because I think Daniel's trying to apply pressure with a marginal hand. There are no second prizes so there's no point to just hanging around. Those blinds and ante's are probably going to go up pretty quickly given the nature of these one-table satellites so take a chance while you still have the chips to make an impact.

Is this the EXACT situation he had against Annie Duke in the ESPN Tournament of Champions?

Just wondering. Annie folded. I would also fold.

I guess looking back on it, the fold worked out OK for Annie... ;-)

You know, I didn't pick up on that I was playing against Daniel. Silly me. However, my answer would still be the same, I would fold.

Normally I would fold in this situation, however in this instance I am going to call because I am short stacked and I want to make a shot at doubling up, and I want you to know that you won't be running me over at anytime with a scary flop. If you have the flush, or a draw to the nut flush, that's great, but at this point I need to make a move to get a larger stack and make a statement for my table image.

I'm calling in this situation. With the blinds that high, I may not get a better chance to double up. I'm putting Daniel on a flush draw at best especially since his comment about getting rid of all those books that talk about playing tight when he plays 6-4 os (lol).

If you fold here, you get a chance to play again, but for how long? Like I said, this is probably gonna be your best chance to double up and take a shot at first place.

Call!

I'd call. If you had AA, KK, or even QQ, you probably would have raised preflop.

If you had a made flush, it would be in your best interest to check to the preflop raiser.

Your all in bet tells me you're trying to protect a flush draw or a worse hand than my Jacks.

Sure you could have hit a set, but since your playing against the short stack, you probably would have pushed pre-flop with any pair and put me to the decision right then. So I could rule out that possibility too.

You probably defended your blind with an A9 and have top pair with outs if your nines are no good.

Even though you've got outs, if my A9 read was correct, you've 14 outs so I'm still ahead. I'm getting all my money in when I think I have an advantage, no matter how slight it may be.

Plus I'd always have a story to tell. Either "Daniel doubled me up" or "I got busted out by Daniel N." Both would make for good stories :-)

I say call: (I put him on a medium suited connector....or one medium-high club....maybe two unsuited connecting over cards) Daniel sees that I've raised 3xBB in 1st poz, with low stack, and that I'm probably looking for callers. Daniel wants to outdraw me.

If calling :
1) Showing that I will aggressively call people on those flush/straight draws.
2) Doubling up is always nice
3) Short stacked...desperate times call for desperate measures.
4) I've already raised it to 18000, (even though I can't bluff him out when I'm all in, when I win, he will think twice about bluffing me.) I'm down to 62000 and I have 9000 in blinds coming at me leaving me at around 8xBB.
5) He's seen and knows I've raised low stacked 3xBB from 1st position, and probably puts me on QQ, JJ, TT, AKo, KQo, and wants to scare me out of letting him draw against me.

Folding would leave me:

1) even shorter stacked, (and even more so since my blinds are coming)
2) looking like I fold to any large bet/raise/reraise
3) and like a "card hunter"...my next big bet (in relation to my stack) will send sirens off that I have a premium hand, and I won't get paid off.

I believe that calling is the right option.

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one of two things are going on....and it's what Daniel puts me on:

If he puts me on AKs, AKo, KQs, KJs, that sorta style...he wants to make it clear that I can't call with 4 outs against his flush draw of 9 outs, plus maybe a pair to boot.

If he puts me on AA, he's representing the flush...a big blind special that hit. But would he call with those cards with 3xBB raise from 1st poz?? No way, AcXo maybe? Daniel's on a draw...call it.

I'd Call in this position. Blinds are coming and your left with 10x the big blind. You're already in the pot for about a third of what you have now. Sooner or later you're going to have to go all in. Why not now with top pair. It's a scary board and with Daniel's bet it seems he's trying to push you out of there.

Solid play but come on man dont be such a pushover.

Anyways As I stated I voted Fold.


Your the shortstack at the table. But the blinds are not going to cut you up in a few hands. If you were going to put all your chips into the middle it should have been Pre-Flop to get the hands Daniel may play. This question was targeted based on journal entries! I know it was! haha.
But back to the question.

Its just not logical to call in my opinion.

1) books or no books its just not logical to call off all your chips with such a marginal hand. You have to think of all the hands that could beat you.
Q,Q - K,K - A,A Any 's - 2 pair a set, not to mention he may have a straight draw aswell as a flush draw. He may have the black jacks (long shot but you know anything goes) so then your really in a pickle.

The possibilities alone encourage a fold. REGARDLESS if its Daniel Negreanu or not. I fold this hand theres just too many hands that can destroy my pair of Jacks

My thoughts are be if this was a real situation either Daniel has a Huge draw A:club: J:heart: or vice versa something to that effect. Or he has flopped 2 pair, 1 Pair with a straight and/or flush draw or a set.

Calling this is like walking into a gun fight with a knife. Your going to get smoked.

Take Care,
Tyler

I'm probably going to be wrong, but I'd call. It's a good chance to double up (already short-stacked, on the way out, especially playing against Daniel). Pay out is to first place only, so you'd have a long way to go to finish in the money. Daniel may have a flush-draw or holding pocket 10's with one club. I'd say go for it, make it a race. May be your only chance to play with Daniel.

easy call for me. daniel could have any two cards here. given the nature of the flop, i believe he would move in with any 2 random cards. Assuming that Daniel gives you credit for a big hand with an UTG raise, he would put you on either AK, AQ or a medium to big pair. This means that there is at least a 50% chance that the flop completely missed you and he could take it down right away. Furthermore, this chance could be greater is daniel holds one of the key flush cards.

something else that daniel didn't mention is whether there are other satelite running at the same time. If this is the case, then calling becomes an even more obvious choice. You want to build some equity or go play in another tourney. Since there is no ladder to worry about, there is no value to holding on for another place. Daniel could be making the same move as well (we don't know his chip situation) but with lots of the bigger names i've played in satelites with, they will push marginal hands early to try to get chips. And if they miss, they just move to a positive expectation cash game.

My read on the all in would be this, I've narrowed it down to a few possible hands you could have. It does, however, look like a drawing hand when someone pushes in so I may be ahead in the hand or not.

1. High flush draw or pair with flush draw.
2. Made flush, possibly a lower flush trying to push out any higher draws.
3. 2 Pair trying to knock out any flush draw.
4. Great drawing hand like 7 8 .

Now, my track record with jacks are 1 and 1000, so I'd fold with no possible draws and still having 10x the BB. Even if you were on the draw with an A, K or Q or perhaps a pair with a flush draw (Which in any case I'd either be behind or it would be a coin toss). Even if you had 7 8 You'd STILL be ahead. Which in any case I'd fold. Wait for a better spot. I wouldn't want to gamble right now. With a reggie board like that and 2 Red Jacks... doesn't seem like the right time to gamble when you still have chips and you're trying to take first.

If I could see your cards, and you had an overcard club, I would fold. If you had a straight draw and flush draw, again I'd fold. The reason? Jacks SUCK

The only way I'd call is if you had 7 8 or put you on a stone cold bluff, which in this case I put you on a semi-bluff which I don't even want to mess with when I have such a bad hand (Like Jacks).

Again, it does also, depend on your stack. Aggressive move here man... but a good brain teaser. I'd fold just because I hate jacks more than anything in the world... such a horrible hand. Jacks are to Hold em as Razz is to Poker... frustrating...

I would call. An over pair at this point is good enough for me to try and double up. I would think u were on a flush draw or trying to bully me out of the hand. If u have the flush made or have some silly 2 pair then u got me, but i would feel ok because i at least tried to double up and didnt let myself get blinded out.

I say the same as the majority. I fold! Will take my chances down the road when I have no other choice but there is too much out there that can hurt me.

I can't agree more, Munky! Jacks suck!

2 Red kings, queens or aces... I'd call... jacks are by far the worst hand... Flop a set, someone has the straight, have your over pair, someone hits their kicker...

i think i would have to call here....i would have to put Daniel on a hand like A9 or AT with A of clubs, or a straight draw with a club.....but i think you have to gamble sometime to get yourself back in a position to win the satellite. I would think that my JJ would be the best hand and I can't complain if i get my money in with the best hand and get outdrawn.

First off, if I was in early positiona nd you were on the button I would have moved in on you first off the flop. If you have a pair and the flush draw, you are a favorite with 14 outs on my Jacks, but that is still giving me odds to call as the short stack. If I cant put you on a better hand than that its a must call.

Well... do you as the reraiser have a shortstack or are you the chip leader?

I think it varies for me. If you move all in and are say 2nd last in chips I would be thinking you have a good hand, a flush, or even trips in which case I'd fold not thinking my j's would hold up.

If you are the chip leader and noticably aggressive I'd question your motive to go all in. Perhaps its a bluff to buy the pot and leave the small guy hanging. In that case I'd call, knowing that you are the chip leader and can obviously afford to gamble.

I prefer observing people, start off slow and pick up on things rather then always focusing on the odds when they are close 50% anyway.

Cheers from Canada,
Govern

1 and 2 seem unlikely. Dont they always check. Expecting the opener to bet.
4 would have raised me all-in before the flop.
Either a made flush or a flush draw seems more likely.
To all those guys folding waiting for a better spot, you guys must be lucky.
I always get blinded out when I wait.

That is a very good bluff opportunity and can be read as such. There are a lot of hands Daniel would call $18,000 with that can already have me beat. He may have thought I was trying to steal the blinds, but I'd still have to fold. Maybe I'm a tight player but I'd have to wait for a better opportunity to get my chips in. I know Daniel likes to defend his blinds and likes to see alot of flops, but as I said, there are too many hands that can beat me that he would have called a raise with. If he already has a flush, I need either two jacks or a jack-9-6-2 on turn AND river. If he has a draw, the jack of clubs is no good for me unless the board pairs. Those odds are just too bad, and even if the correct answer is to call. If I fold, I'm still in the game. $60,000 is still a decent stack to build on.

Tough laydown.

I limp with jacks... I hate that hand so much.

:diamondsj: :heartsj:

Hard to fold here, but given how many times I've lost with jacks... I would.

Although, someone did bring up a valid point. Depends on your stack =)

I assume you're going to be one of the big stacks, but damn, JACKS for pete's sake... They're cursed.

The saying is:

Jacks, Can't win with em, can't win against em, can't fold em.

I do think that Calling is the right answer, but in this case, I pick the wrong one. Fold.

In reference to:

You say it is unlikely and maybe so on that level but the level I play on 1 and 2 happens all of the time. Here is why:

If I had a pair of two's or 6's and I was not short stacked and the short stack trippled the blinds, I already have a third of the blinds in, I am going to call to see what comes up on the flop. I get a set and I am going to go all in because I do not want short stack to get lucky with a cheap card. I either want him shorter at $60,000 and folding or I want all of his chips. I don't want to have to make a hard decision on the turn or flop (like 2 over cards coming up, or two cards that can make a straight) and be the caller or the folder.

So, my reasoning on the two pair is this... I am in the big blind (or should I say, a guy is in the big blind) and I have $6,000 in and its $12,000 to call but I would really increase my stack with this hand. I have 6 and 9 (suited or not). This is my favorite hand. (yes, I know guys who love this hand, they laugh and giggle thinking they are just so cool to reference something sexual) As a guy, I figure it is lucky, I have lots of chips, everyone else folded so what's $12,000 more? Not all poker play is rational. Also, there are just as many 4's in a deck as there are A's. So why not see what happens since I only have to worry about the short stack. Nothing comes up, I fold, I get 2 small pair, I am all in. Again, I don't want short stack to get trips, a flush, or anything else. Remeber, it works both ways. The caller has to protect what they got on the flop just like you had to protect your jacks with the tripple the big blind bet.

Now look, you may all be going, tsk, tsk, what an amatuer and you know what, you are right, I am an amatuer. I have only been playing about a year, my most expensive games is a $22.00 buy in with $20.00 re-buys. I played a cash game once and donated $60.00. So I do not play high levels because I am far from the skill to do so.

So far, no one has convinced me that I should do anything but fold. I am trying to be swayed. Maybe it is just my predujice against jacks. I really can't wait to see what Daniel says. If he says I am wrong (which I could see happening) I will bow my head in shame. :wink:

Your table image doesnt mean anything if you get knocked out of this tournament right here. I would definitely fold because of all the possibilties that would destroy my hand. I, too, despise Jacks. :evil: :evil:

I would fold because a. I dont like jacks in just about any position and b. I'm being moved in on :!: not the other way around. I just don't like it if he's moving me all-in and I can't really draw to anything but trips, maybe a full.

I would call.

I hate pocket jacks just as much as everyone else but I was recently watching Daniel play in the final three of a WPT event as the short stack. The big stack puts Dan all in and Dan says I better call or your going to do this to me all night.

I realize that there are a few major differences here but you have to take a chance sometime. There is about an equal chance he has you beat or doesn't but by calling you:
a) show you can't be bullied; and
b)may win the hand putting yourself in a comfortable position.

If you lose, there will always be another game, another time. That's poker.

As everyone knows, in poker the answer is always "it depends" and I think I would go either way depending on a few variables.

Thank you for making us think and for being so in touch with your fans Daniel.

Merry Christmas all

There's also a sixth possiblility. The BB
paired nines or even a smaller pair. No
one respects the 3xbb standard raise. The
BB may think he's ahead and bet all-in.
With only 13xbb I would prefer opening all-in
or limping to opening 3xbb.
Dan Harrington says one's chances of winning
a tourney is about equal to their percentage
of the outstanding chips. Guessing 200K in
outsanding chips, you started with about a
4% chance of winning this satellite. If you
play and win this pot you still have less
than 9% chance. If you fold you have 3%.
If you play and lose, at least you've ended
the agony in the satellite that you weren't
likely to win.
Since this is winner take all there's little
point in playing cautious. The only thing
that makes me nervous about calling is that
it is the choice of the majority of members
of the forum who have been wrong on the
first two quiz questions.

Those are some really good points actually, but still... nobody hates jacks as much as I do. Calling will more than likely be the correct answer, actually I'm almost sure it will be. I usually protect most of my pots, with almost anything, unless they're Jacks. I'll take 53 suited over jacks ANY day.

The funny thing is, I actually came up with a very similar situation just yesterday when I was playing an 84 player tourney. I had 10s, flop came K 9 4 . I called an all in, put the guy on a draw. It honestly depends on who I'm playing and it's a lot easier making the call when I'm actually in the situation. But, reading what Daniel wrote, I just saw Jacks and for me, folding Jacks is something that should be done preflop. Call it Superstition, call it idiocy, but Jacks = Poop. Even if I'm ahead in the hand, they're jacks and they're cursed. I'm going to get outdrawn no matter what.

I Would fold. For 1, even if you to have the top pair he has way too many outs w/ 2 cards still to come. Another thing is that it is always better to raise all-in than to call and if my math is right which it probably isn't you could still play at least 7 or 8 hands if you fold. Being short stacked I would fold and hope for a hand I could move all-in with before the flop.

I think this one might be one of the easier calls in the game for a few reasons.

Short stacked and with two players a JJ holds up pretty well before the flop. And with the Big Blind only calling your preflop it seems he probably has some kind of suited connector or low-mid pair. If you are at a good table and I am assuming you might be, the big blind would see that it was down to you and him and would raise with AA, AK, KK, JJ, or 1010. I think even though all clubs came across you can get him on the suited connectors. You have to play your odds.

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Daniel's quizzes are SOOO misleading, but I love it. Is he the chip leader, or short stacked too?(maybe he has 2000 more than you and is making a play, who knows) Analyzing , and over analyzing a hand without proper info is kinda silly.

Surely you understand that his play would be different based on chip position. I realize poker is a partial information game, but the quiz does'nt even meet that standard lol.

You have all made various guesses at his hand, and shown stats to back up your choice. It's amazing to see you have put that much thought into this hand

The simple answer is FOLD(not knowing chip position). You overvalued the J's from an early position in a friggin 10 handed game. 10 handed meaning that more than likely you will NOT improve your starting hand pair. The sheer tonage of hands that will beat you would break a camels back with that flop. You made an overbet, deal with it and move on to the next hand.

i dont really think theres enough infomation, but id call because im not hanging on for anything in this tournament, im here to win and id much prefer to bust out now rather than go through the blinds and have a tiny stack and waste my time in a position im not going to win from. the fact its a tricky aggressive player thats called my under the gun raise means hes probably calling to make a play at any scary flop, so ill just hope that the flop was just as scary for his 'hand' as it was for mine.

basically if ive got two options, and one is weak tight and one is probably suicide but possibly lifesaving in a single prize tournament, give me the latter.

On one-suited flops, big bets generally represent strength. No one is going to bluff with no pair no club in this position.. at very best we're facing a coinflip against two overs and a club. I'd have to say fold for sure... we're up against a set or an overpair most likely and we have no club, it's time to move on.

I just think y0u can pick a better battle than JJ, for all your money, versus a completely unpredictable player.

I would fold....daniel likes to protect his blinds so he could have easily just called with suited cards....also he could be bluffing with A ....
here is the odds if he is bluffing with just the A:club: with that flop

cards %win
3s Ac 46.36
Jd Jh 53.64

so even if he is bluffing with the A its still a pretty much a coin flip