Blinds: .50/1
I'm in SB w/ $122
Villian is in LP w/ roughly $110

4 limpers I make it $6 from the SB w/ A K . 3 folds, villian calls ($16 in pot).

flop: K 6 7 . OK, so maybe it wasn't the Worlds Fair, but I flopped top pr./top kicker w/ the nut flush draw.

I lead at it for $11.50 villian calls. ($39 in pot)

turn: offsuit 5.

I lead for $26, villian moves in.

I???

Call obv.

I call. I think sets usually raise the flop here. I know I am trying to get it in with a set. If he played a flopped flush like that we still have outs.

There is no way we are drawning dead and people do dumb stuff on 3 suited boards. He could easily be bluffing.

so you have to call off $78.5 to win ~158..

so essentially 2:1ish. we obviously aren't getting the correct odds to draw to a flush with one to come, not to mention that it's really bad if/when he has a flush already.

that turn sux also cause it could easily be a straight if he limped and called you light preflop.

it's odd though, since you have the Ad we know he hasnt limped with Axs, but it's possible he has some sort of sooted connector that was waiting to move in on the turn.

And if it is a set, again, you don't have odds to draw.

pretty standard fold

edit -- you didn't include reads..however...if you think this guy would play KxQd similarly...or KxJd or something like that, it's a call..but i dont know how he hsa played past hands at all and you didn't mention it...so i'm sticking with fold here.

- Jordan

I had no significant reads on this player, other than I didn't feel he was very strong p/f. He was very active p/f in position, so he was clearly looking to see a cheap flop here.

I do think he would play KxQ , KxJ like this. He may also have flopped the flush w/ a smallish suited connnector (though I hadn't seen him draw w/ hands like that at all, and I'd been at the table for a while). He could very possibly have 2 pr, or a pair and a draw too.

Frankly I had been having a frustrading run of cards lately, and I just wasn't going to lay this hand down. Math be damned, I just wasn't going to fold in this spot, so I called very quickly.

Given the range I just described though, I don't think my call was terrible, just not super, or well thought out.

I was crushing a smaller K and a smaller , and I was even getting a good price to draw against someting like 67.

werd. i woudln't get into a habit of calling outta frustration...

2:1 aren't bad odds at all if he has 2pair, and you're actually getting the right price..so, unless you put him on an already made hand (flush/str8) or a set given your hand the call is ok. i mean honestly, 2 pair is the only hand that you are behind that you don't really mind you are "behind" given the price. Everything else has you in bad shape, and 2:1 is not good enough.

the hand he had is obviously ideal and luckily he really misplayed it. I need to remember that this is 100nl and not overthink things...although i really think in the long run you'll usually be up against a hand you need to improve on given how this hand was played.

- Jordan

he might have 8 9

isn't it more like I have to call $67 to win $158? He shoved for $93ish, which is only a $67 raise on my turn bet.

In any case I'm mostly interested in if villian is ever semi-bluffing here w/ a hand like 4 5 , 7x 8 or even a goofy hand like Q Jx? Not to mention the other King w/ a diamond hands.

I'm most likely beat here, but I think these semi-bluff hands make the math on the call OK. Am I kidding myself here or do people semi-bluff these hands thinking I can't call without a flush?

if i did the math wrong, which i may have..then in this case you're getting 2.3:1...so depending on his range...i mean obv if you think he has a made hand (str8/flush) you need to be getting 4:1 at least to make this a profitable call...and about the same if he has a set

i think the range of hands you see here will vary from your opponent and what level you are playing at (100nl or 1knl)...in this case obviously you caught the kinda guy that will try to push you aruond. obviously sometimes you will be raised by a super nit in which it is a fold.

i assumed, perhaps wrongly, that this player was a str8 forward 100nl player who probably wouldn't shove here without a hand. of course there are big doinks playing this level, and will shovel with anything trying to push you around, but I think most guys will pause to think before shoveling on this board with something that is worse than your hand.

as we said, if you think you are behind, and still want to call...the best spot you are in is if he has two pair..in which case you are a 2:1 dog and obviously are getting those odds.

- Jordan