jjdylan
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 10:55 PM
I'll take the lexus....k? thanks
chrozzo
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (jjdylan @ Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 1:55 AM)

I'll take the lexus....k? thanks

dont the the prius...it really sucks, get the honda civic hybrid, i drive it, and its really nice
ricker
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 10:59 PM
If I were DN's agent, I'd be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal nervous about that blog. If Toyota gets wind of the fact that DN is selling the Toyota because he feels it pollutes too much, new sponsors would be kinda nervous about giving him commercial deals in the future.
DanielNegreanu
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:02 PM
QUOTE (ricker @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 10:59 PM)

If I were DN's agent, I'd be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal nervous about that blog. If Toyota gets wind of the fact that DN is selling the Toyota because he feels it pollutes too much, new sponsors would be kinda nervous about giving him commercial deals in the future.
Good thing I'm a not a yes man and would never stand behind a product I don't believe in. Besides, I plan on sticking with Lexus, they offer two hybrids and my wife likes the SUV.
bdc30
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:02 PM
QUOTE (ricker @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 10:59 PM)

If I were DN's agent, I'd be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal nervous about that blog. If Toyota gets wind of the fact that DN is selling the Toyota because he feels it pollutes too much, new sponsors would be kinda nervous about giving him commercial deals in the future.
Yea, but closing one door (toyota) only opens another, with the potential to promote for whichever hybrid he chooses. I highly doubt they're too worried about it.
socalpoker_j
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:11 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:02 PM)

Good thing I'm a not a yes man and would never stand behind a product I don't believe in. Besides, I plan on sticking with Lexus, they offer two hybrids and my wife likes the SUV.
Good choice, the RX400 rides pretty smooth and the GS450 has a 340hp engine with low emissions. Lexus is the luxury version of a Toyota.
My mother is the VP for a reputable organization and I've had the pleasure of meeting Al Sr. and on a personal level his son Al Jr. They are both nothing but 100% percent class and really believe in what they are promoting. I know for a fact that Al Jr, drives a Prius and the family is very energy conscious. Al Sr. had/has a great vision for the nation and I too wish he had won in 04.
ricker
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:14 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:02 PM)

Good thing I'm a not a yes man and would never stand behind a product I don't believe in. Besides, I plan on sticking with Lexus, they offer two hybrids and my wife likes the SUV.
Fair enough, Principles are important and that's one of the reasons why I admire you so much as not only a poker player, but also as a human being.
But if I may, principles don't exactly pay the bills. You're of course listening to the BIGGEST sellout/whore in the world as my on air nickname is "Budweiser" because they're sponsoring my salary. In order for me to get ahead my business, I do what I need to do to make money, and I'm completely comfortable with that. All I guess I'm saying is, companies like the yes men for a reason.....they say yes! When you did your diet pepsi commercial, how many diet pepsi's did you drink?
alls I'm saying is, your image is important. And yes, Lexus's kick ***. They're beautiful beautiful cars.
DanielNegreanu
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:20 PM
QUOTE (ricker @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:14 PM)

Fair enough, Principles are important and that's one of the reasons why I admire you so much as not only a poker player, but also as a human being.
But if I may, principles don't exactly pay the bills. You're of course listening to the BIGGEST sellout/whore in the world as my on air nickname is "Budweiser" because they're sponsoring my salary. In order for me to get ahead my business, I do what I need to do to make money, and I'm completely comfortable with that. All I guess I'm saying is, companies like the yes men for a reason.....they say yes! When you did your diet pepsi commercial, how many diet pepsi's did you drink?
alls I'm saying is, your image is important. And yes, Lexus's kick ***. They're beautiful beautiful cars.
When I did the Pepsi commercial, it wasn't a direct endorsement of the product at all. You didn't hear me saying, "I love Pepsi," or anything like that.
ricker
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:23 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:20 PM)

When I did the Pepsi commercial, it wasn't a direct endorsement of the product at all. You didn't hear me saying, "I love Pepsi," or anything like that.
oh, I never said you did. But, they still bought your "image" and with all due respect, that's what I'm telling you to protect. When you're saying you're getting rid of your toyota and lexus because they're polluters, then that sends a negative image about a company, especially the one who gave you the truck.
nutzbuster
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Honda, Toyota and Lexus make the best hybrids at the moment.
socalpoker_j
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:25 PM
QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:23 PM)

Honda, Toyota and Lexus make the best hybrids at the moment.
Except Lexus is in a class of its own... giving you the environmentally friendly vehicle with the looks, luxury, and overall driving experience. If I was going with "Hybrid" way I'd definitely pick up the GS, I've driven/ridden in it a couple of times and it was a sweet ride, however, you couldn't fit a set of golf clubs in the trunk.
nutzbuster
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:30 PM
All I know is the minute they invent a hybrid or electric car that looks great, can carry 2 sets of golf clubs, can go zero to 60 in 4 seconds and sounds like a Ferrari doing it, I will be first in line baby!!!
socalpoker_j
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:30 PM)

All I know is the minute they invent a hybrid or electric car that looks great, can carry 2 sets of golf clubs, can go zero to 60 in 4 seconds and sounds like a Ferrari doing it, I will be first in line baby!!!

You might not have to wait that long (I don't know about golf clubs though):
Hybrid SportsCar
nutzbuster
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:34 AM)

You might not have to wait that long (I don't know about golf clubs though):
Hybrid SportsCarAND ITS A TOYOTA!!!
WOOT!
very cool.....
Sportsmack
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:02 PM)

Good thing I'm a not a yes man and would never stand behind a product I don't believe in. Besides, I plan on sticking with Lexus, they offer two hybrids and my wife likes the SUV.
FYI...Lexus is just a division of Toyota.
socalpoker_j
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:50 PM
QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:38 PM)

AND ITS A TOYOTA!!!
WOOT!
very cool.....
Do I get the clap for my studious research?? loll
QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Friday, February 9th, 2007, 11:40 PM)

FYI...Lexus is just a division of Toyota.
As noted above in my post.
manub
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 1:15 AM
Kudos to you Daniel for making a -ev move for yourself that is +ev for Earth.
If I had a car, I'd get rid of it too!
eYank
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 9:20 AM
You should stick the Toyota POY Car on ebay or something and donate like 50% of the sale to the Earth Foundation (I made that up, I dont know any environmental foundations but you get the point)
fleung22
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Daniel,
I want to support your 'cause. Next time you're in Toronto I'm going to let you buy me a hybrid and I will get rid of my Acura.
Balloon guy
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 10:33 AM
I drive an SUV, I get 11mph on a good day.
So luckily Daniel will cancel my bad milege with his good milege.
Thanks man. I feel better.
Now if we can just get volcanos to quit spewing more Co2 in one eruption than all internal combustion engine do in 100 years THEN we will get somewhere.
Luckily we got a hole in the ozone to let out the Co2.
Just being a smart azz though. I think it's right to do what you can to stop pollution at all levels. To do less is irresponsible.
But I don't mind global warming, I've always been a lttle cold anyway (Dennis Miller)
2bthebest
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 11:00 AM
QUOTE (eYank @ Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 11:20 AM)

You should stick the Toyota POY Car on ebay or something and donate like 50% of the sale to the Earth Foundation (I made that up, I dont know any environmental foundations but you get the point)
How about an FCP tournament for the Tundra?
chrozzo
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 11:21 AM
the Lexus RX400 is only expected to get around 24 mpg, and the Lexus 450h about 26 mpg. Sort of like the rich person's way of keeping green, without actually doing so.
Muck, You Suckers!
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 11:35 AM
If you sell the Toyota it solves nothing. Someone else will be driving it and it will still be polluting the environment. You got to kill it. That's right, if you were truly caring about the environment you'd demolish it. Do you realize how long that vehicle will be out there polluting? Years and years and years. Maybe longer than normal cause they'll take good care of it cause DN once owned it.
Take it to a salvage yard and video tape them crushing it. That would be setting the ultimate example. Have a news crew there. Make a big deal out of it. You could lose way more than that vehicle is worth in one hand of poker. Is it worth one hand of poker to show people that DN is serious about protecting the environment?
Ouch-8s
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:04 PM
I'm all for saving the environment, but the hybrids currently available are little more than a gesture that does very little. They're like a bumper sticker - it's great to show your support (please don't think I'm understating this) but the effect otherwise is minimal.
There are lots of backend costs with hybrids (battery recycling, cost of energy production, etc), and there's lots of debate about how well they work (my 15 year old (gasoline) jetta got better MPG than a new honda hybrid, and hybrids are pretty useless on the highway) but possibly the biggest is: if you're getting rid of a perfectly good car (and IC engines are actually/potentially very energy efficient) to get a hybrid, even if you leave your old car in the back of the garage and don't drive it, you're generating a lot of waste.
If you need a new car, and spend most of your driving time in city traffic, then a hybrid may make sense. Otherwise, it may be windowdressing. The right attitude, maybe the wrong action.
And Balloonguy - if you had a $10k credit card debt and another $5k credit card debt, and I offered to pay off the $5k one, would you say "No thanks, unless you're paying off the big debt I'm not interested"?
Derswick
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:09 PM
Perhaps before buying a Hybrid perhaps you should read some material from companies that don't manufacture them. There is strong evidence that the carbon footprint of the hybrids available today is not much of an improvement over they standard versions of the vehicles. The disposal of the batteries are an issue that Toyota and Honda tend to ignore, these are a very serious environmental issue. You should perhaps look a investing in a Mercedes diesel as most non biased research show there technology to be more environmentally friendly and efficient.
Balloon guy
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (Ouch-8s @ Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:04 PM)

And Balloonguy - if you had a $10k credit card debt and another $5k credit card debt, and I offered to pay off the $5k one, would you say "No thanks, unless you're paying off the big debt I'm not interested"?
I don't understand, I pay off my credit cards every month. and $10K isn't the big one. j/s
In my opinion there is nothing to worry about global warming, it is a way for environmentalist to make money while they try to take away private property rights. However that doesn't mean I want people to pollute if they can avoid it.
If I believed the hype then your point is well taken.
Balloon guy
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:13 PM
QUOTE (Derswick @ Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:09 PM)

Perhaps before buying a Hybrid perhaps you should read some material from companies that don't manufacture them. There is strong evidence that the carbon footprint of the hybrids available today is not much of an improvement over they standard versions of the vehicles. The disposal of the batteries are an issue that Toyota and Honda tend to ignore, these are a very serious environmental issue. You should perhaps look a investing in a Mercedes diesel as most non biased research show there technology to be more environmentally friendly and efficient.
Wait a minute, filling land fills with used batteries isn't going to harm the environment is it?
And how do we make them batteries? Don't we ship the raw material across the ocean, where they smelt and burn etc. before they ship it back, and then we burn fuels to charge etc. That seems to defeat the prpose a little.
We need more nuclear power plants.
Balloon guy
Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (chrozzo @ Saturday, February 10th, 2007, 11:21 AM)

the Lexus RX400 is only expected to get around 24 mpg, and the Lexus 450h about 26 mpg. Sort of like the rich person's way of keeping green, without actually doing so.
Anything to make us feel good about ourselves while we try to figure out how to get all 3 of our air conditioners units to keep the house at a comfortable 74 degrees during the summer.
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