the rules thing is the only thing I can see here that is really a negative, too. and really, thats only a negative to current pride fans, but I do see the point in making universal rules. it would be too difficult to occasionally combine the two series and come up with common rules while doing so; this takes care of that.


and REALLY, about that 900 bucks thing. why the hell can't they offer a season pass or something? if they're gonna run 2 damn cards a month, I really need some kind of discount. I'm gonna have to sell my car just to keep watching mma.



but really though, this is spectacularly exciting.



On another note: Liddell vs Rampage in UFC 71, 05/26/2007. I mean, we all knew it was gonna happen eventually, but does anybody think this is a wee bit too soon for Rampage to get a shot against Liddell? I mean 1 fight and he gets a title shot? Sure he's proved himself elsewhere, but damn. This just seems a little unfair to all the other light-heavyweight contenders out there that want a shot at getting beaten by Chuck. Oh well.

Save $50 and download it Sunday morning?

Nah, we're cool with it.

Sincerely,

Brandon "The Truth" Vera
and
Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez

Wow, I'm really surprised at Rampage getting a shot this quickly. He looked average to a touch above average in his first fight. I'd have liked to see another bout or two (preferably against someone i've ever heard of - unlike his first match) before he got a chance at the belt.

I am sure that Dana looked at it from the point of view that Rampage is the only active fighter left that has beaten Chuck in the past that Chuck did not avenge the loss. Its not like Rampage is a 20 yr old punk that just started fighting at this level.

Ultimate Fighter Marathon today on Spike for anybody sittin around with nothing to watch.

I would've seen this but I was too busy watching the Ultimate Fighter marathon. question though, why do they only ever show season 3 and 4? they never show 1 and 2, and those are the ones I want to see the most. bollocks.



looks like season 5, which is starting Thursday (girlish yelp of "yippie"), should be a good one, getting back to the newcomers. I'm pretty stoked about that.

All 16 fighters will be in the lightweight division. Which will either be sweet or pretty crappy. I'm not sure which yet.

really? I hadn't heard this yet. should be some scrappy little bitches in there. I think it'll end up being good.


and who else is looking forward to the Sanchez/Koscheck fight more than any of the other ones? I think this is gonna be the fight of the evening.

eh, vera screwed himself over by thinking that he was worth more then he is before having the chance to beat slyvia

Contract dispute?
Or was he pissed about not getting his shot, before Monson and then Randy?

Hey, what's your take on the Pride purchase?

my sense is it will have little impact on UFC initially; but make Pride less intense, due to rule changes

Looks like Nick Diaz's little brother is in UF5 as well, and he is a punk (as expected) and (almost?) gets in a fight in the house. But I agree the lightweights are gonna be some scrappy bitches! Sometimes I just don't like it as much though, flipping around on the ground like jumping beans and all. I prefer two people slugging it out, but I can definitely appreciate the Jiujitsu.

http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/ultimatefighter5/

that casting video was hilarious.



and yeah, I like the striking too, but eh, they can't all be light heavyweights. this season will be a good change I think. Different without being stupid like last season. I mean really, last season was just silly.

contract dispute, as in Vera thought he was worth more then he was considering he wasn't all that proven and was asking in the realm of 40K+40K per fight w/o the HW title


I think the PRIDE purchase is great for UFC, it was also inevitable too. It was really just a matter of whether Calvin Ayre would buy it or the Fertittas. UFC will be able to create a lot of new matchups and they now have a ton of talent at their disposal. I'd love to see nogueria make his way to the UFC. One guy that will be interesting is Josh Barnett. Him and UFC split under not so good circumstances back in 02/03

Ok I've got a question. What the hell is Josh Koscheck? Is he black? white? mixed? friggen filipino?


I can't figure it out. He's one weird looking dude.

i think he's a halfie

it's free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11, Bitch

whaaaaa????? how is it free? really?




and my little comment on the new season of TUF... whats with all the Jens Pulver hate? I really like the guy, but it seems like none of the fighters do, and even the poll thing they had during the show showed 80% would rather be on BJ Penn's team...? What the hell? Little Evil's awesome, and BJ's a tool in my opinion. I can't be the only one, can I? Whatever.



Free?

According to the advertisements now

If you have Spike TV and live in Ameirca (and maybe some other countries - but country seemed to matter)

BJ just has mad skills.
What a jerk though "Raise your hand if you want nothing to do with Jens..."

**********

Tonight:

I predict Koschkek upset. Decision or Stoppage from GnP, when Diego won't tap.
I think Diego wins at least 7/10 times;; but not tonight.

GSP in 2nd round tko.

Here's hoping that there's a friendly fcp'er who will be able to post updates on the UFC card tonight for those of us who are stuck working on what is one of the biggest sports nights I can remember for a very long time.

yep, that just solidified my distaste of BJ Penn. He just seems like an ass.


I'm going with Koscheck too. He's been on fire in his last couple of fights and I think he can really give Diego a run for his money. Either way, it should be an awesome fight.


you think Serra's gonna make it to round 2? I think thats veeeery generous.



and I'll try to post some updates, but usually by the 2nd fight I'm plastered beyond control, so I can't make any promises.

I'm back in Indpls visiting my wonderful wife; so I won't be interrupting to post updates...

darn COMCAST DVR... every time I have to call up there because the order didn't go thru.
It's recording; but there's no picture..says "Your Order was not Completed"

I think Serra will be about knocked out in the 1st round but it'll be Mazzagati and he won't notice it.

oh shit, I forgot. Um, Kendal Grove won, Swick lost (to a Jap), and Koshcheck and whats his name are getting ready to fight. Some filler fight on now. Not interesting.

Thanks SZ, keep em comin

Josh Koscheck vs. Diego Sanchez: worst fight of the night. DISAPPOINTMENT. Koscheck wins by numbers. Diego was scared and wouldn't even try to go in for strikes. He deserves 3 loses for this piece of shit he wants to call a fight. Biggest letdown I've seen in UFC history.

100% agreed. Diego = exposed. At least I won some $$

Swick cost me $$, hindsight 20/20 can't believe he was favored

ready for GSP vs Serra, mediocre card do far...

OH MY FUCKING GOD

no seriously, OH MY FUCKING GOD

yay i started a couple threads outside of this part of the forum..basically saying...

omg...

wtf...

omg...


and yes.. kosheck vs sanchez was ****ign sad.

koshec won the fight by lading 3 punches and 1 take down.. ****ing sad


the omgs and wtfs were to serra knocking out gsp if u ddint allready guess


wtf

omg

wtf.......

I have watched just about every UFC in history. I believe that Diego Sanchez is one of the best fighters ever. Something tells me that fight was fixed. I've never supsected it before from the UFC, but that fight was unbelievable. Literally.

uh, what???

details?

QFMFT.. Did you see Hughes smiling in the crowd after GSP got worked? Wow, has to be right up there in ultimate upsets in UFC history.

yeah really. I wonder how that even happened. And BD, Serra won. I'm dead serious. Matt Serra won. I still can't believe it. It really does seem fixed because of the hard on that Dana has for Matt Hughes. I don't see how its possible, but damn. What a weird UFC.

well i never thought it could be possible either that the ufc sets up there fights..

but dude..

Silvia

Franklin

Hughes

Sanchez

GSP

Swick ( think he just had the hometown gitters )

in the past 5 events.... i have seen the best fighters in the world. give there worst performace EVER right after another after another.... and loose what i would consider a milestone in each one of there career's. Because each ridiculous fight that was 100% opposite of what it should be, and had some sort of title. braging rights, record, ect on the line.

maybe UFC was getting boring with them winning every fight.

hense, set the fights up, so the fans can watch there favorite fighter climb back up the ladder.


but so many things just puzzle me right now.

The Huerta/Garcia fight was the best of the night. Toe to toe slamin.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the poster above me was drunk last night.

I doubt anyone in the Militich (sp?) camp lost in a fix
Franklin, for one, took quite a beating.

Diego was unbelievable.
As if he didn't care that he was doing nothing to win the fight.
Was it the pride in his stand up?
Even if he takes the worst of a takedown, he had to try to get Josh in position for choke/submission.
For me the card was entertaining, except that fight.

If they fix the fights, UFC will suffer big
UFC fans do not overlap WWE fans to enough extent (at least the ones I know)
The UFC is almost getting too full and Dana has to love it. The TUF shows... yeah even TUF 4 are getting sooo validated, it's sick. But Dana is also building the records of these guys and experience. IMO, the match making and whole scheme is great businesss because I keep thinking of tons of fights I want to see - and the majority of them now don't even involve belts.

Serra was the biggest upset in UFC history since it became a legitimate sport, among fights that people knew enough about the fighters to say.

kinda sux we don't get to see all the fights..

"Longtime heavyweight contender Heath Herring rebounded from his January loss to Jake O’Brien with a three round unanimous decision over Brad Imes.

Scores for Herring were 30-27, 30-25, and 29-28.
Scores were 30-27 across the board for Leites, who improves to 10-1. Sell falls to 7-4.
Welterweight Marcus Davis continued his progression as a mixed martial artist, impressively submitting Pete Sprat"
--By Thomas Gerbasi

Do they plan on a certain amount of filler/promotion and then cut the fights that won't fit, if too many have gone long?

Don't they show the "other" filler fights after the main event on the ppv broadcast? They do/did on the last UFC ppv's that I bought here (granted I didn't see last nights)

we got Luke Cummo.. that was the only prelim they showed

Yes, as long as the other fights didn't go too long.

oh..and Nogera (sp?) is now in UFC. That submission superstar from Pride.

that bolded is teh key phrase. The fact is, many of the people buying UFC PPVs are teh same people that bought WCW and WWF PPVs in the late 90s. To ignore the obvious overlap is grossly underestimating who is buying the PPV, but, there is no fix on any of these fights. If UFC did that, they would destroy their whole image taht they've built up over the past few years and let all the money that they are making go bye bye overnight. Dana White and teh Ferrtitas are too smart to try to pull that. I've seen more then enough fights were a fix was in or one of teh fighters threw the fight, and that just wasn't the case here. Diego had already been exposed, so Koscheck knew what his gameplan would be going in and exectued it to perfection

to the extent the audiences overlap, it's not among those that want legit sports to stay legit. And we agree there.


After writing in semi response to Steve7stud, I began to wonder if he meant, Diego was paid off separate from Dana being in on it.
That seems more, albeit not, plausible.

I missed the fight Diego was "exposed" before but I kept hearing them talk about how he had trouble against a wrestler before.

Woah, Spike TV just said the Tito Ortiz v. Dana White Boxing match is happening tomorrow night at 11:00pm. For those that have never heard of this, there is plenty about it on the internet so google away. And no it is not as lopsided as it sounds.

its not happening, it got called off cause tito no showed the weigh in. They are showing all of the documentary footage that was leading up to it

http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/03/24/report-tit...ntly-cancelled/

and apparently the Nevada Boxing Commis is none too pleased.

Damnit!

well I'm sure as hell glad I didn't stay up till 12:30 am to have them tell me there wasn't going to be a fight. I thought the whole thing was a gag anyways. It didn't make a whole lot of sense, but whatever.


Oh, and Nate Diaz has some thug issues he may need to work out. I've long been of the club that believes that anyone that immediately removes their shirt upon any sort of aggravation should be shot on spot. god I hate those people.

Unless they rip it off, Hogan style, that is... lol

That was still an interesting program, even knowing the fight didn't happen. Dana White really took it seriously and trained hard. Not good that he pissed off the Nevada Gaming Commission like that though! Did Tito really wuss out? I'd like to hear why he didn't follow through from his mouth.