Randomly found this on TV. Wish I had known it was on sooner because I missed the first two fights.

Diaz looked great. His game is a lot better right now.

Rogers looked good I guess, but it seems like he might need to get in shape.

Lawler and Shields looked pretty ugly imo. Shields stand up is awful, and Lawlers ground game is pretty bad. Shields BJJ was tight.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that this was on.

Star studded event.

I thought Shields' kicks were ok, but yeah, he's always been shaky with his fists. He's sick with the BJJ though


WEC card on tonight, probably gonna be three really good fights on

One of the great things about WEC cards is that they are so action packed.

The smaller guys never stop and it almost always makes for an exciting fight.

Really looking forward to watching Aldo tonight, and the main event should be a great fight.

and how do you not resort to wrestling when your hand is broken? It's easier to throw elbows when you're on top of someone. Then again, his hand looked painful. I was so hoping that he was going to pull off that choke in the 5th.

Because Brown is bigger and stronger, not being able to hold a leg would put him right there for the picking. And I agree, nailing the choke in the fifth would have been awesome.

meh, we'll keep it friendly. Maybe a signature bet under the terms you wrote.

Sure sig bet is good. I agree if you do.



I took Wandy a couple months back when i was a little more flush and am starting to have second thoughts. Oh well should be a good fight. Probally not paying for this card with 3 real good UFC cards in the next couple of months which i will be buying.

confirmed



I'm going to my local bar at 3pm. Last Euro card was on so I'm hoping this one will be. Seems like a decent card actually.

Guys, why is Kongo a dog vs Velasquez? Is Velasquez really that good?

Velaqquez is a beast. A lot of people consider him to be the most talented fighter to come out of AKA.

He has really good stand up, but he will be at a reach disadvantage in this fight.

He is world class wrestler. So if he is smart he takes this fight to the ground..........where Kongo has shown to have great weakness.

The problem with this fight is that Velasquez likes to go for the finish. If he gets the fight to the ground it might be harder to do from a wrestling stand point. He could become stubborn and want to keep the fight standing. If he does that, Kongo has a bit of an edge. If he fights a smart fight, he has the tools to win.

Guys, why is Kongo a dog vs Velasquez? Is Velasquez really that good?

I don't bet the fights much. Usually just a $10 bet with some guys at work. I was looking for the lines for the fights today I came across this site that give you the money lines from multiple sites.

http://zewkey.com/mma_betting_super_page.htm

One fight really stood out to me and some of you betting guys might want to see if it is for real.

M Al Turk +325 +300 -450 +300
Cro-Cop -420 -400 +275 -500

Is this just a typo or a real change to make some cash?

have you seen kongo's ground game? my seven year old has better skills

any live streams? My dish is down =(

have you seen kongo's ground game? my seven year old has better skills

COLOGNE, Germany – Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic's return to the UFC was a short one.

Not long after stopping Mostapha Al-Turk in the first round of UFC 99 on Saturday at Lanxess Arena in his first fight in the UFC since back-to-back losses in 2007, Filipovic informed UFC president Dana White that he had signed a three-fight contract with the Japanese-based DREAM organization.

White had signed Filipovic less than a month ago to a one-fight deal, the first time in more than nine years that he'd done that. He had worked out terms on two additional fights, but said he'd only put pen to paper for Saturday's bout.

He brought Filipovic back because he knew the Croat is still very popular, and Filipovic insisted he wanted to make a run for the title.

That proved not to be the truth. After turning down much tougher opposition, including Cain Velasquez, who defeated Cheick Kongo later on the card, he wound up with the lightly regarded Al-Turk.

But instead of getting a shot at big names like Randy Couture or Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and fighting his way into title contention, Filipovic opted to bolt for Japan.

"Isn't that a dirty [expletive] thing to do?" White asked rhetorically after being queried about Filipovic's deal with DREAM. "He [expletived] me. The first time in the history of the company I do one over the phone. He promised me a three-fight deal and he [expletived] me."

Filipovic looked unsteady and hardly impressive in defeating Al-Turk, who is winless in the UFC. He never landed one of his vaunted kicks and the fight ended not from a punch but when he poked Al-Turk in the eye with his finger.

Referee Dan Miragliotta didn't see the poke, so it was regarded as a clean blow and Filipovic won by stoppage.

Filipovic was fighting five months to the day after knee surgery, one of several injuries he said kept him from performing at his best in his first stint in the UFC. Before the fight, he called his 1-2 UFC record "the black spot" on his career.

While speaking with reporters on a prefight conference call, Filipovic seemed enthused about his return and said he was gunning for a title shot. All the while, he apparently knew he was in it for a one-fight deal.

He texted White on the UFC exec's cellular phone and told him he wanted to return. White said Filipovic declined numerous opponents.

Apparently, Filipovic, who is from Croatia, wanted to fight in Germany and use the UFC bout as a tuneup. He did and is now DREAM bound, but he'll almost certainly never fight in the UFC again.

"He didn't keep his word," White said, who said he'd had a two-hour talk with Filipovic on the day "Cro Cop" texted and asked to be able to return. "He talked about honor and all this other [expletive] and he [expletived] me.

"He fed me this bull [expletive] about wanting to take a run for the title, and what I think he did was, he went out and did this. He turned down every other [expletive] fighter I offered him, because I needed him to fight Cain. He didn't just poke Al-Turk; he poked me, too."

As is his custom, Filipovic skipped the postfight news conference and could not be reached to comment on the DREAM deal.

CroCop leaves UFC just as fast as he came back. Dana's pissed...lol

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15191/mirko-cro-...-in-germany.mma

Overall, I thought it was a pretty good PPV. Got me ready for 100. Going to put some big bets on 100. Probably $20 a fight to whoever disagrees with me. I will post tomorrow...when I sober up.

Anyone think it was weird that when Buffer announced the winner of the Wandy/Franklin fight he just said "all three judges score it for the winner by unannoumous decision Rich Franklin". He didnt give the scores. Probally just a blunder.

Pretty mediocre card imo.

I didn't have any action on this one, but I would have done alright.

One of the things that stood out for some reason is that when a fight is close and goes to a decision, it usually is awarded to the guy who was a favorite. Not saying that there is anything wrong with that........it brings me back to a point I made in a previous thread from some time ago.

Two examples stick out in my mind.

One fight from awhile ago, I had +200 on a fighter. Obv I can't remember the fight. But I was at a friends house and the +200 fighter lost. Now it was a pretty good fight, and my friend said, you had the right side on that one given the odds. So it got me to thinking.....did I?

I later remembered -380 on Diego Sanhez vs Luigi Fioravanti. I thought Diego was going to win. Didn't like the odds, but I still believed that Diego was going to win. In my mind I just couldn't see how Diego would lose the fight.

I'm much more technical in my analysis now. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. But I remember the days of ignoring the odds and just asking myself who I thought would win. If it was the favorite I bet that way. If I didn't know I would bet the dog. And sometimes I believed the dog would win. These were the good old days when the book didn't know how to handicap a fight either.

I would have lost tonight on Marcus Davis. Probably my only loss on the card. But the loss would have been my failure. Results aside. Hardy had a reach advantage and Davis was an emotional wreck. Of course I wouldn't know what exact mental state he would enter the octogon in. But anyone that has gone on like he did about being so offended has to be off his game to a certain degree. And a smart opponent can take advantage of that.

I'm going to give two more examples and then wrap this up.

Mir vs Lesnar 2. By all accounts Mir is a pretty smart bet. He's already beat Lesnar. And he recently defeated Nogeira and looked the best he's ever looked. But if we look closer.......Lesnar was caught with a pretty basic submission. Is that going to happen again? Mir fought Nogeira when Nog had two serious kneee injuries and a staff infection. So it isn't so much that Mir looked great, but he was fighting people who were handicapped due to sickness or lack of experience. Is Mir still a smart bet?

GSP vs Alves. If anyone can beat GSP, Alves has a great chance. Alves is fighting a guy who hates to be hit. And Alves has shown great takedown defense. And don't get me wrong, I really like GSP a lot. But is GSP really the smart bet given these odds?

So these are the things I am asking myself lately.

Trying to combine my gut feeling with technical analysis. Hopefully the two will mesh welll together. Sadly I think they will come to different conclusions.

Feel free to chime in with thoughts........

Did you spoiler tag that because you got who fought who incorrect?

I was in the kitchen there but did I just here Dana say Vitor Belfort is coming back to the UFC?

First, get Tivo or DVR, seriously.

Second, Machida vs. Shogun Oct. 24th at Staples center, not sure if this was known before tonight, I hadn't heard that.

Third, Dana said he's working on getting Belfort for a matchup with Silva at 185

I watch maybe a total of 4 hours of tv a week so the DVR isnt worth it for me. Yea Shogun/Machida came outthe week after the Rashad/Machida fight.

You'll watch more tv in less time if you have one.


GET IT

Bad decision in Sanchez v Guida. Sanchez destroyed him. Split my ass. Well, my ass has a split, but when you say it, you have to pause, like Split (imagine the word "decision" here) then say "my ass". Shoulda been unanimous

Ok

You'll watch more tv in less time if you have one.


GET IT

Bad decision in Sanchez v Guida. Sanchez destroyed him. Split my ass. Well, my ass has a split, but when you say it, you have to pause, like Split (imagine the word "decision" here) then say "my ass". Shoulda been unanimous

Ok