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gooch
grocery_mony
QUOTE (gooch @ Wednesday, May 20th, 2009, 3:19 PM) *

OMG thats so funny. There are alot of talented people out there with to much time on there hands. The Rashad facial reactions are dead on.
grocery_mony
I got Machida, Sozynski and a small bet on Sera on Saturday. Lets hope its an entertaining card.
jdrury12
On Lyoto and Hughes big. Only way I see Hughes being in trouble is if his knee is so messed up still that he cant take Serra down. It's the legendary 170 champ against a life long mediocre 155er.
grocery_mony
Watched the countdown show. Got pretty annoying with the constant soundbites of Serra calling Hughes a dick but I LOL'd at Serra talking about Hughes's wife wanting blood. "how did that come up", did they get back from a church group and were discussing what a lovely service it was "oh and by the way, kill that little bastard".
steve7stud
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Friday, May 22nd, 2009, 6:58 AM) *
On Lyoto and Hughes big. Only way I see Hughes being in trouble is if his knee is so messed up still that he cant take Serra down. It's the legendary 170 champ against a life long mediocre 155er.


I like Machida in this fight a lot. I actually think he wins by KO which will be really nice to see.

Not a fan of Hughes or Serra. Hughes got DESTROYED in his last two fights. I think his best days are waaaay behind him. This fight should be pretty close imo. I see it going the distance and being rather boring with Hughes just laying on top of Serra. Obviously Hughes is bigger and stronger, but Serra can KO Hughes. Serra is tough, it will be hard to put him away.
grocery_mony
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Friday, May 22nd, 2009, 8:33 PM) *
I like Machida in this fight a lot. I actually think he wins by KO which will be really nice to see.

Not a fan of Hughes or Serra. Hughes got DESTROYED in his last two fights. I think his best days are waaaay behind him. This fight should be pretty close imo. I see it going the distance and being rather boring with Hughes just laying on top of Serra. Obviously Hughes is bigger and stronger, but Serra can KO Hughes. Serra is tough, it will be hard to put him away.

I see Serra as a live dog but not enough to really want me to put a decent chunk on him. Like you said Hughes was destroyed against Alves and GSP and in 2 and a half years only has 3 fights under his belt with one win(a decision over Lyttle). Serra to does have the long period of inactivity but he is around the game all the time with his gym. I think Serra has to KO him to win and with the GSP ko aside he really doesnt have a history of ko'ing guys. I put a little on Serra for action and because I think Hughes is done.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (gooch @ Wednesday, May 20th, 2009, 6:19 PM) *

good god this is awesome. I will be sending it to friends.
jdrury12
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Friday, May 22nd, 2009, 11:50 PM) *
I see Serra as a live dog but not enough to really want me to put a decent chunk on him. Like you said Hughes was destroyed against Alves and GSP and in 2 and a half years only has 3 fights under his belt with one win(a decision over Lyttle). Serra to does have the long period of inactivity but he is around the game all the time with his gym. I think Serra has to KO him to win and with the GSP ko aside he really doesnt have a history of ko'ing guys. I put a little on Serra for action and because I think Hughes is done.

Hughes also has his own gym... I think this is a case of people over thinking a fight, I still like Hughes. It could be a boring fight, but I think he can power out of submissions and will grind a decision a lot of the time.
Ron_Mexico
I like Machida and think he's a great fighter but for some reason, everyone I know hates on Evans so I have to pull for him.

I dislike mouthy New Yorkers but dislike bible thumpers worse, so I'm pulling for Serra.

all dogs for me I guess
irishguy
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 11:48 AM) *
I like Machida and think he's a great fighter but for some reason, everyone I know hates on Evans so I have to pull for him.

I dislike mouthy New Yorkers but dislike bible thumpers worse, so I'm pulling for Serra.

all dogs for me I guess


I've got a little on Evans while I agree he's the dog I think people are selling him way to short.

I was thinking of a little bet on Serra (getting like 3-1) but will likely stay clear of it. If Hughes can look even mediocre I think he takes it but he's looked awful for years now.
Ron_Mexico
don't lie now, who was on line at midnight Monday buying UFC Undisputed for PS3?
grocery_mony
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 1:37 PM) *
don't lie now, who was on line at midnight Monday buying UFC Undisputed for PS3?

Dont have a system but considered buying one because of this game. Had to buy a new matress so my discretionary spending is shot for a couple months.
jdrury12
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 3:39 PM) *
Dont have a system but considered buying one because of this game.

Same.
hank213
I would've like to have seen a Serra/Hughes five rounder.
ford14


GG LHW division.
hank213
QUOTE (ford14 @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 10:54 PM) *


GG LHW division.

Quick work the the gif man.

So over/under on how many successful title defense he has?
ford14
QUOTE (hank213 @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 9:57 PM) *
Quick work the the gif man.

So over/under on how many successful title defense he has?


Rampage is going to be a good test to see how dominant he's going to be. Honestly, if he makes it through Rampage, I think it's going to be quite a while before we see someone take him out. He's not going to drop a GSP-like fluke loss, and a majority of the LHW contenders are strikers that are going to get picked apart by him. So, assuming he beats Rampage, which is far from a given, but I think he's favored...I'd put the over/under at 6.5. The scary thing is that I can only see that number going up as time goes on.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 2:48 PM) *
everyone I know hates on Evans so I have to pull for him.

so I'm pulling for Serra.

all dogs for me I guess

Ladies and gentlemen, reason #37 why I don't bet on sports
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 4:37 PM) *
don't lie now, who was on line at midnight Monday buying UFC Undisputed for PS3?

my buddy who's house I watched the fight at had the game and it was pretty friggin cool. I didn't play but I watched them play.
jdrury12
Rampage fight will be huge. But Lyoto is so good. He just hasn't been close to being beaten. And I think Rampage's susceptibility to leg kicks plays a role. I'll be betting Lyoto heavy if it's even close. I think it's like -275/300 ish.
Ron_Mexico
what works in Machida's favor is that he's so unorthodox and comes from so many different angles, it takes people completely out of their comfort zone and their game. I think the person that beats him will not worry about adapting to Machida, but just come out and doing what they do really, really well, whatever that may be, slug, wrestle. That karate base is a tough thing to combat right now, but someone will.

Machida does seem like a decent dude though.
ford14
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 10:23 PM) *
Rampage fight will be huge. But Lyoto is so good. He just hasn't been close to being beaten. And I think Rampage's susceptibility to leg kicks plays a role. I'll be betting Lyoto heavy if it's even close. I think it's like -275/300 ish.


The more I think about it, the line on this fight might provide the best value for any UFC fight in quite some time (maybe since Rampage/Liddell 2?). Rampage is insanely popular and there's going to be a ton of money on him, which should skew the lines. I'm pretty sure Machida is going to knock him out within 3 rounds. The only way I see it going any other way is if Rampage lands one of his lunging hooks while Machida is backing straight out...but nobody seems to be able to make him pay for doing that so it's not likely.
grocery_mony
Yea I dont see Machida losing for awhile. The guy with probally the fastest hands in the division couldnt come close. maybe an excellent takedown, submission,gnp guy can do it but I dont see anyone out there like that in lhw elite right now. Good card imo. Edgar was suprising. Hughes/Sera probally the weakest on the card. LOL at hughes wanting Alves or GSP. 2 for 3 with a nice profit for me but I am drunk and have money in my account so I will be busto by tommorow. Anyone know why the crowd was booing Lavigne everytime he showed up?
ford14
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 10:27 PM) *
what works in Machida's favor is that he's so unorthodox and comes from so many different angles, it takes people completely out of their comfort zone and their game. I think the person that beats him will not worry about adapting to Machida, but just come out and doing what they do really, really well, whatever that may be, slug, wrestle. That karate base is a tough thing to combat right now, but someone will.

Machida does seem like a decent dude though.


The other thing is, he just seems to get it. People called him boring, and he heard it and said "**** it, I'm going to start decimating people then", and then does it. People freak out that he can't speak english and say won't be able to draw, and he busts his ass to learn it and delivers one of the best post-fight interviews in recent memory.

I completely agree about the not adapting quote. I can't think of anyone right now, but maybe someone like Jon Jones after he gets a few more wins under his belt. Just a freakish athlete with really strong wrestling and a graet clinch might be his kryptonite. But he or anyone like him is probably 5 fights away from sniffing the title.

It's mind blowing to think of how bored Anderson Silva is reported to be with the quality of his opposition, but Cote landed some hard shots on him, Lutter had him mounted even though he had nothing left in the tank, and Henderson took a round from him. So as dominant as he's been, he's been tested at least a little bit. Lyoto on the other hand, hasn't even been hit flush one time in 7 UFC fights, and possibly in 15 career fights(I haven't seen them all). His career thus far has been pretty phenominal.
ford14
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 10:41 PM) *
Yea I dont see Machida losing for awhile. The guy with probally the fastest hands in the division couldnt come close. maybe an excellent takedown, submission,gnp guy can do it but I dont see anyone out there like that in lhw elite right now. Good card imo. Edgar was suprising. Hughes/Sera probally the weakest on the card. LOL at hughes wanting Alves or GSP. 2 for 3 with a nice profit for me but I am drunk and have money in my account so I will be busto by tommorow. Anyone know why the crowd was booing Lavigne everytime he showed up?


He fails at being a ref in general. But from reading results, it appears he butchered the Nover/Bradley fight. From Sherdog..


Kyle Bradley grasped his first Octagon victory in three outings with a controversial first-round TKO against debutante Phillipe Nover in their lightweight bout. Bradley shrugged off Nover’s first takedown attempt, then connected on “The Ultimate Fighter 8” runner-up with a stinging right hand. Reaching for a single leg, Nover slipped forward onto his face. Referee Yves Lavigne stepped in and halted the bout, but backed away when a cognizant Nover rolled onto his back.
With the fight still in play, Bradley landed some glancing blows on the 25-year-old Nover. Lavigne intervened a second time and waved off the bout just as Nover rose to his feet, much to the Brooklyn, N.Y., native’s and the rabid crowd’s disapproval. The official time was 1:03, while replays inside the arena did little to bolster referee Lavigne’s actions.
grocery_mony
OMG Serra/Hughes got fight of the night bonus. SF rigged.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 2:05 AM) *
OMG Serra/Hughes got fight of the night bonus. SF rigged.

No it didn't.

I don't care how many links you provide as proof, my answer will now and forever be "No, no it didn't."
AimHigher
Good performance by Machida. Rampage vs. Machida next?
jdrury12
Machida pres conference very interesting. He talks about how he tries to find the kio (sp?) where a guy is completely defenseless after throwing a punch. You could see it when Rashad threw a right and Machida was inside throwing a combo before the right even got there. He's just so beautiful to watch. Watching the replay, when Rashad was rocked, he started yelling at Machida. And was unconscious 10 seconds later. lol.

Anyone else disappointed Pat Barry was tapped in like 2 minutes? wtf
irishguy
Machida vs Rampage could be interesting if Rampage can actually hit him but I agree leg kicks could very well be a big factor in the fight. I think Machida holds the belt for a long time provided he doesn't trip over his own feet and bump his head.

Hughes is going to fight again- yeah that'll end well for him lol. At this point I don't see anyone in the division that he matches up well against. I'm sure this hasn't been said very often but I think Serra's a pretty smart dude and understands his place in fighting. I think he knows that he's a dog against most at 170 and 155lbs but he's got a punchers chance/bjj. As much as he can come off as a dick I've never got the impression that he over values his worth.

That's two big screw ups by Lavigne in a matter of months. He used to be a go to ref but I don't think we should see him on another PPV at this point.
grocery_mony
QUOTE (irishguy @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 9:00 AM) *
Machida vs Rampage could be interesting if Rampage can actually hit him but I agree leg kicks could very well be a big factor in the fight. I think Machida holds the belt for a long time provided he doesn't trip over his own feet and bump his head.

Hughes is going to fight again- yeah that'll end well for him lol. At this point I don't see anyone in the division that he matches up well against. I'm sure this hasn't been said very often but I think Serra's a pretty smart dude and understands his place in fighting. I think he knows that he's a dog against most at 170 and 155lbs but he's got a punchers chance/bjj. As much as he can come off as a dick I've never got the impression that he over values his worth.

That's two big screw ups by Lavigne in a matter of months. He used to be a go to ref but I don't think we should see him on another PPV at this point.

Yea Lavigne was my favorite ref of 2008 but has had a rough couple months. Its such a fast violent game its extremely hard to protect the fighters and keep everyone happy all the time. I wish Big John would come back to the UFC. Yamasaki seems very consistent and you hardly notice him which is good.

So did Sherk really take off before he could get drug tested?
irishguy
dbl post really?
irishguy
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 9:11 AM) *
Yea Lavigne was my favorite ref of 2008 but has had a rough couple months. Its such a fast violent game its extremely hard to protect the fighters and keep everyone happy all the time. I wish Big John would come back to the UFC. Yamasaki seems very consistent and you hardly notice him which is good.

So did Sherk really take off before he could get drug tested?


Agreed re the reffing.

Here's Dana's twitter just after the Sherk fight lol

QUOTE
Sean sherk ran out of the ring and out the doors and down the street in his fight shorts and no shirt


Yes I'm on twitter. No I'm not a 14yr old girl
jdrury12
QUOTE
Sherk, meanwhile, caused a brief behind-the-scenes panic after the fight, as he bolted from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in his fight shorts and gloves before submitting to his postfight medical exam. He was reportedly spotted in the vicinity of the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, about a mile away. Sherk, who was not among fighters subjected to a random postfight steroid exam, returned about 20 minutes after he left and submitted to his commission exams.

"He was just upset that he lost," Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer said. "This is a guy whose only losses were to (Georges) St. Pierre, (B.J.) Penn, and (Matt) Hughes. Now he's on the first fight of the pay-per-view and he loses and where does he go from here? I sympathize with him."

If he was so pissed he lost he should have just ground and pounded him, period. In the third when he insta took him down it was like.... why the hell didn't you do that the first ten minutes?
grocery_mony
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 9:47 AM) *
If he was so pissed he lost he should have just ground and pounded him, period. In the third when he insta took him down it was like.... why the hell didn't you do that the first ten minutes?

How the hell is a guy who has been caught cheating in the past not instatested every fight.
jdrury12
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 11:54 AM) *
How the hell is a guy who has been caught cheating in the past not instatested every fight.

Yeah, I agree. He was tested before the fight, I know that. He should be tested every few weeks fighting or not, they all should. I don't care if the UFC has to pay for it. Don't let this turn into baseball.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 1:17 PM) *
Yeah, I agree. He was tested before the fight, I know that. He should be tested every few weeks fighting or not, they all should. I don't care if the UFC has to pay for it. Don't let this turn into baseball.

don't kid yourself. I'd guess a fair amount of guys are on something. I'm still pretty sure there is no test for HGH. I'm not positive how it works though, piss or blood test. Probably blood but modern science is always ahead of the tests
gooch
grocery_mony
I deffinately can see why lavigne stopped it iin the heat of the moment.
gooch
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 1:18 PM) *
I deffinately can see why lavigne stopped it iin the heat of the moment.

yeah the left arm going limp looked like he got flashed
Yoda
Apparently Machida has been brushing up on his english. Not bad! smile.gif

Just so glad someone knocked that fker out (Evans) and in dominating fashion; nothing flukey.
grocery_mony
They just said on Sportsnet Rampage is confirmed as Machida's next opponent. Possibly in Oct in LA.
bdc30
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 4:37 PM) *
don't lie now, who was on line at midnight Monday buying UFC Undisputed for PS3?


I'm not usually much of a "gamer" but I'm absolutely addicted to this game. It has just the right amount of detail, while not being too complicated (if that makes any sense to anyone....)

I'm in the middleweight division with my first created fighter and finally getting the hang of it.

10/10 imo.
grocery_mony
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 5:21 PM) *
I'm not usually much of a "gamer" but I'm absolutely addicted to this game. It has just the right amount of detail, while not being too complicated (if that makes any sense to anyone....)

I'm in the middleweight division with my first created fighter and finally getting the hang of it.

10/10 imo.

PS3 or Xbox?
jdrury12
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 1:13 PM) *
don't kid yourself. I'd guess a fair amount of guys are on something. I'm still pretty sure there is no test for HGH. I'm not positive how it works though, piss or blood test. Probably blood but modern science is always ahead of the tests

I don't think HGH is as much help here as it is in baseball, but for sure most guys are doing something. Clamp down now doign as much as you can before anything crazy breaks out.

For Rampage I know Dana said it's 100% he's next, and that Spike wants Lyoto and him as next TUF coaches. I think next season is the last on the TUF contract and there have been talks of dropping it, so it'll be interesting to see what the UFC decides to do.
grocery_mony
Lyoto's english is alot better but for him to be a TUF coach seems like a stretch. Maybe if it was a USA vs Brazil show where he can communicate with his team better.
grocery_mony
When you look up KTFO in the dictionary they should just show this picture








mase_gotsem
^ rofl so awsome
bdc30
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, May 24th, 2009, 8:54 PM) *
PS3 or Xbox?


I have the ps3
steve7stud
I had no action on this card, but I was pretty excited to see it.

Kudos to Edgar for winning his fight. He had a great gameplan. On paper it made a lot of sense to bet Sherk. Everything that Edgar does, Sherk does better. Nice to see Edgar use footwork to win. Smart kid.

Serra and Hughes fight was pretty lame. It went about how I expected it to go. But I think Serra needed to go for broke a lot more with his punches. I guess it's tough due to his lack of reach. Hughes looked horrible. I hope that he does get rematches with GSP and Alves, I would do very well on those fights.

Machida is a freakin beast. It's funny, even though I didn't have any action on him, I was very nervous for some reason. So glad to see him get the KO. Rashad did not seem to have a gameplan which is odd coming from his camp.

People are speculating that Machida vs Rampage will be a good fight. I definitely disagree. I see Machida destroying Rampage. Machida is way too quick and has fierce leg kicks, as well as head kicks. I liked Evans against Rampage if they were to fight. And even though MMA math doesn't always add up. I see Rampage bringing nothing to the table.

Rampage can only win by getting inside on Machida, and I just can't see that happening. It's a VERY one sided fight imo.
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