I just realized, I think this is the worst card I have seen from the UFC.

Franklin looked scared to fight. Henderson was truly boring.

Rua and Coleman should fight again.......but in another organization.

Thumbs up to Lytle and Marcus.

Palhares and Horn sucked.

Kang and Belcher was ok. But it was hillarious to hear Belcher talk about himself being in contention for a title shot.

Wow. Just horrible.

will admit i didn't see the fights, but how the christ can a guy LOSE a split decision when one judge scored it 30-27 in his favor?

Rounds 1 and 2 were pretty much toss ups, and dependent on what the judges felt like as franklin won the standup and henderson won on the ground. Round three was clearly Franklin. IMO there's was no way Franklin won both 1 and 2, the judge was a tard

It should be Horn vs. Coleman next as they are both at the same speed right now....way too slooooooooooooow

Shogun should just quit if he's going to show up like that, it's pathetic.

Franklin/Rua might be entertaining. Rich should be able to win that one easily.


I give Bisbing a decent shot at Hendo. Aside from Tito, Bisbing has given Rashad the toughest test in his career in what was an incredibly boring fight. Incredibly boring fights is becoming a trend for Hendo so I am not anticipating this fight.

Unfortunately Franklin just doesn't seem to have it anymore. He seemed SO dominant fight after fight after fight, but after getting totally manhandled by Silva he just hasn't had it anymore.

Same thing happened to Hughes right around the same time.

They were two of my favorite to watch (Hughes' attitude and general assholeishness aside) - but lately, not so much

Henderson and Hammil are two fights where your not gonna look impressive against. Fights against Wandy, Lidell and Shogun would be very entertaining fights for Rich. Thye were replaying the UFC from Montral late last night on a sports channel up here, that escape from the armbar Lutter had on him was absolutely amazing.

Liddel/Shogun official for Montreal. I hope the rest of the card is stacked.

I thought that Franklin looked really good against Hamil. He picked him apart. He looked really scared in his fight against Henderson. Everything he did was half hearted. I felt like he was using kicks because he didn't want to get close. It wasn't as though he was fighting a smart fight and keeping the distance. He seems to have lost his killer instinct. Perhaps that is what happens when Silva destroys you twice? He looked MUCH better against Hamil.

Is that the headlining fight? These are two guys who have looked pretty bad lately..........

Rumors so far

-Anderson Silva (#1 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites
-Chuck Liddell (#5 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
-Tamdan McCrory vs. Jonathan Goulet
-David Loiseau vs. Ed Herman


As for the last show, it was a big disappointment to me. Shogun, Coleman, add them to the list of Pride letdowns. I mean, I never expected much from Coleman but Shogun has been a huge bust, seeing as he was always one of the best. As for Kang, he obviously got caught. I expect big things from him in the future, but he just telegraphed that shot.

The next one will more than make up for it though.

Did anyone else find themselves laughing at Coleman and feeling sorry for him at the same time?

I honestly laughed out loud a few times.

So, who's going to watch the Affliction card? And I don't mean steal it from an online stream. I'm talking a purchase or a visit to the local bar.

Speaking of which, I need to call the local bar.

I want to watch Fedor fight. I've never seen him fight live. I'd love to see him destroy Alovski, build the mystique a little.

I did but wasn't shocked by his performance. He's old and hasn't cut weight in like a dozen years I laughed more at shogun not being able to finish at the end of the second and the fact that I had him losing the third before he put Coleman away. The guy was so hyped coming in from pride(deservedly) but has looked so bad.

Also I liked the Hendo/ Franklin fight. I thought Rich had a good game plan to use the body kicks as he has against Hamil the problem is Hendo has been around a million times longer then Hamil and apapted accordingly. Biggest problem with Franklin in this one imo was it was three rounds no five.

FWIW I don't find Henderson's style boring at all but understand why the masses do.

Hopefully Henderson can take out the protected Bisping and we can get another Henderson/Anderson fight.

Good to see Shogun so apologetic. At least he knows he sucked the joint out. I think it makes the opening line of a Chuck/Shogun fight VERY interesting.

Fights with Rashad Evans and Matt Hamil is protected? Sure he hasnt fought anybody worthwhile at 185 but has destroyed the no names and a juiced up Leben.

Shogun also stunk up the joint vs Forrest and gassed in that fight aswell. If it gets passed the 3 minute mark I expect Chuck to get the KO.

I know he gassed against Forrest... but he used the excuse of his knee and didn't man up. I guess he did the same here but he has admitted he knows he sucked and could be better, which is a start.

Hamil, I'm sorry, is not an elite fighter. I love him to death, plus he BEAT Bisping. And the Rashad fight was fine for Bisping and the UFC. They knew he was capable of the cut and could beat Day and Leben, who are far from great themselves, and then get a TUF coach/title shot. No doubt in my mind the UFC sees Bisping as their poster boy overseas and doesn't want to lose all the money he can bring in for them. Not saying I can blame them, but I definitely think it makes most people overvalue Bisping's talent.

Yea Hamil isnt elite but he isnt a pushover and Bisbing did recover from being rocked early. I thought that fight was closer than alot of people because outside of that first round it was close and if i remember correctly the 2nd and 3rd could be scored either way. The reason why I thought Coleman might beat Shogun is that Shogun gassed against Forrest and got dominated, his brother Ninja though not on the same level as Shogun had a sudden and dramatic drop off in his abilites and they share DNA.

So with Liddell/Shogun and Rampage/Jardine booked whats next for Forrest and Rashad? If Machida looks good maybe he finnally gets a shot but I cant see anything out there for Forrest right now. Unless he is really gonna be out till the Fall and see where the chips fall after the Spring.

edit: maybe Rich for Forrest?

Isn't Forrest out until summer? And If Rampage beats Jardine he gets Rashad at 100.

Rampage vs Evans is an interesting fight.

LOL at Shamrock(Ken) vs Tank Abbot.

I'm kind of pumped for the Affliction card this weekend. Four pretty good fights imo, Fedor/Arlovski, Babalu/Sokoudjou (sp?), Lindland/Belfort, Barnett/Yvel.

I think it's definitely the best non-UFC card since the Pride buyout.

Yeah, looks like a solid card. Do you guys think a win over Arlovski moves Fedor up from #3 on the P4P list?

I'm assuming he's there on those rankings behind GSP and Anderson. I personally find the P4P rankings pointless, but all I'll say is Fedor just hasn't lost. Ever. With the competition he's faced, it's amazing. No other fighter in the world can say that.

Technically, he has a loss on his record from a cut.

Did anyone catch "Fedor: The Baddest Man on the Planet" on Fox Sports? Good stuff. Followed him to his little town in Russia where he lives and trains. More interview from him than I have seen in a long time.

I just don't see how Arlovski has much of a chance the way he has looked lately. He can throw some bombs and there is always that chance, but he just hasn't looked like the same fighter he once was. Other fights look good on paper. I don't think I will order the PPV, but if someone I know is having it I would def pitch in to watch.

- Should have been a no contest as it was before the 90 second mark in the first round, but was ruled incorrectly.
-Yes. It was an awesome, awesome show.




The more I look over BJ/GSP, the more I love BJ. With his chin, take-down defense, and jiu jitsu, I see no winning strategy for GSP other than trying to stay away and pitty pat him with the reach for a decision, but staying away from BJs constant jab for a guy with a questionable chin is hard. I love BJ at +150.

Agree. I'd take BJ all day as the underdog. He needs to do something within 3 rounds though because I see him on his back a bit in the 4th and 5th round. I don't think GSP will be doing a lot of damage, but the judges just like giving it to the guy on top no matter what.


Does anyone have any thoughts on Babalu over Sokoudjou at -165? I am watching the weigh-ins on ESPN right now to see the size difference, but I think Babalu will be able to choke him out fairly easily. I was really surprised to see Fedor at only -316.

Yes, I like Babalu here too. I'm on him, Nogueira, and Lindland.

edit to remove retarded comment about a phantom matchup

Had a crazy dream just now (I'm lazy) of Arlovski stunning and then finishing Fedor against the ropes. Was pretty vivid and I've never dreamed of a fight or fighters before so I'm now tempted to book some action on it.

Strange.

Also, as long as babalu can fade the first two minutes Sokodjou's in trouble. That was a fun sentence to type and say out loud.

affliction streams anyone?

http://pages.tvunetworks.com/channels/#

channel number?

Never mind...

61886

to late

http://mmaenespanol.mi-web.es/foro/portal.php?page=7

cage>>>ring

That was easy. I just won lunch from my supervisor.

Good thing I don't bet dreams. Arlovski looked good for a few, amazing KO.

Those announcers were tilting as hell.

Dousche 1: Faydor is kewl

Dousche 2: Feedor is the man.

Dousche 3: yeah, Feo-dor is the GOAT!! WTF?

Give me Goldberg any day.

So what happens after Fedor/Barnett?

Affliction might have a shot if they had 1 more superstar at another weightclass. If Fedor isnt part of an event it wont sell. I will be intrested to see the numbers from this one.

I bought the Affliction card. I thought it was pretty good. I do prefer the cage to the ring though.

I would have done really well if I bet these fights. Sigh.

Btw. Has Sok not figured out that fights go longer than 1 minute?

I honestly think that it would be in everyones best interest to bet against any fighter that is training with Dan Henderson.

Can Sok make 185? It doesn't seem so but he said he came in at 209 and only had to cut 3 pounds as he normally comes in at ~215. I guess he does deserve some slack as in his first nine fights fought Babalu, Luiz Crane, Machcida, Nakamura, Little Nog, and Arona.

The question of what happens after Fedor beats Barnett, if that happens, is really interesting.

Ditto, I bought the card as well and thought it was solid. Cage >>> Ring by far. Was nice to see Big John reffing mma again.

Went 5/6 on this card for +11u

I obv did not buy the card. Went 2/2 (Babalu and Fedor) and should have been 3/4, but missed the deadlines on Kirill and Barnett.

I thought the fights were pretty good. Arlovski looked like the Arlovski of old, obv due to the beard, even when he got KTFO. Glass jaw ftl. Is it just me or do the KO's just keep getting worse and worse? Even the fight that didn't get aired because of time had a huge KO.

My only bet on tonight's card is Varner over Cerrone. Varner was -161 and I think he is just way too much for Cerrone atm. I actually like Cerrone quite a bit because is a very exciting young fighter, but I think Varner takes this one the vast majority of the time.

Went 2/3 last night with Babalu, Lindland, and Little Nog.

The card tonight should be interesting, not on anything though. Hopefully Pulver doesn't get embarrassed. Would love to see him pull it off. Interesting to see where Cerrone is really at.

Um...anyone else not getting the feed from vs? I am sitting here looking at some gayness

speak and ye shall receive...came on about 10 sec after i wrote this

Watched the last two fights of the vs. card last night...

Jens Pulver....done?

Knee to the head in the last fight...faking it??

Video of Fedor/Arlovski fight

God I really hate the ring/ropes. And what is up with the throat cancer announcer? His voice made me want to kill myself.

Linland was pretty f'ed up, definitely a good mix of some good KO's and good submissions on the card.

Yeah, Lindland got f'd up bad! I would love to see Vitor back in the UFC in the MW division. I think Vitor (a good Vitor that is) would be a great fight vs. Anderson Silva.

The Arlovski fight was pretty good. For a second there I thought it was going to be a good fight, then WHAMMO. I think the Barnett/Fedor fight should be good. I'm not too sure what's left for Affliction once that fight has happened.