I don't think he's acting. The guy seems about as bright as a puppy.

and just like that he has you worked. I've followed this guy for years, he's a ton more bright then you are giving him credit for

How about Brock vs. Gonzaga?

Its funny how the UFC's HW division goes from bland to exciting overnight. I think they should get Brock fighting every 4 months to get more expirience. He needs to add some more pound to go with his ground.

Isnt he fighting Werdum next?

I thought Werdum was fighting some total can at 90 and then getting a title shot... could be wrong though

I officially challenge brock to an iq test. I'll lay him a few points just to be nice...........

He'll counter by offering you a fistfight. He'll spot you a 5 second headstart, just to be nice. You'd be smart to take it. He is an animal.

Buuut, he can't be that dumb. Worked his way through the U of Minnesota, got signed and made millions in the WWE, retired with his body in tact, married what used to be an attractive woman and is now making $250k a fight with what I hear is a $250k win bonus.


He may not do calculus, but I'd venture a guess that he ain't a complete moron.

I'm gonna have to counter with an extra 15 seconds. Need to start the SUV and get it up to 60.

Lots of guys who are not bright make money in fighting sports.

Brock Lesnar v. Kimbo

Thats gotta be Brock in a landslide right?

winner: brock lesner, tko via decapitation.

I thought about that last night and laughed. Brock would have a better chance against Fedor right now than Kimbo would have against Brock.

For those of you who don't frequent Sherdog, quite possible the funniest thread I've seen in a while. The real reason Herring lost.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/heath-got...k-r2-r3-829371/

LOL

Pretty sure that goes beyond the unspoken boundaries of the male on male ass slap.

I am also pretty sure GWB was thinking of doing the exact same thing here




I'll admit I dozed off a couple of times during the fights.

Didn't care for Lesnar's antics and I agree with Steve..guy doesn't seem like there is much going on upstairs. I wasn't impressed with the progress he has made as I kind of expected a little more pound to his ground. It looked like he was a little scared to throw the hammer fists for fear of hitting the back of the head again. However, I look forward to his progress as he is truly explosive for his size. I just hope it's not too late with the age thing.

GSP dominated as expected. He looked like he got tagged a couple of times by Fitch and if he lets BJ get in there he is going to get clipped again.

Maia looked good on the ground...as expected, but he really needs to add some standup to compete with the big boys.

Florian fought a smart fight and there wasn't much Huerta could do. He pretty much chased Florian around the whole fight. If it were Pride, Florian would have had his fight purse taken away. Of course if it were Pride he wouldn't have been able to run like he did. Huerta looked a lot more gassed than in past fights as well. Layoff ftl.

One comment on my upset of the night pick. I picked the bum in the UFC version of bumfight.

? he's only 31

this idea to have the GSP vs BJ Penn fight, a "supercard" event, on New Years eve is a horrible idea. It may just be a rumor, but it would be very silly if this actually happened.

It would actually be on the 27th not the 31st but I think it will take place at Montreal either in Novemmber or January and have Forrest fight in the ME on December 27th.

Ummm. I suppose I would rather watch a rematch of Tank vs Kimbo now that I think about it.......

Now they just need to have Brock vs. Goldberg...

-- After UFC 87: Seek and Destroy, $60,000 bonuses were awarded for knockout of the night, submission of the night and fight of the night. Robert Emerson needed only 12 seconds to dispose of Manvel Gamburyan in devastating fashion to pick up the $60,000 bonus for knockout of the night. Demian Maia used a rear naked choke to tap out Jason MacDonald in round 2 of their fight to get submission of the night. The 5-round main event of Georges St. Pierre and Jon Fitch won fight of the night, with each fighter getting a $60,000 bonus. Although Fitch showed a lot heart during the fight, GSP dominate all 5 rounds to retain the UFC Welterweight championship.

-- Brock Lesnar is receiving a lot of praise for his first UFC win over Heath Herring at Saturday night's UFC 87 Pay-Per-View. At the post-show UFC 87 press conference, UFC President Dana White told the media, "I'm telling you I'm blown away by his [Lesnar's] performance tonight. One of our guys said it looks like he's hitting people with lunch boxes. The guy's a phenomenon. I didn't think he could come in here with no fights and compete at this level. He proved me wrong. He's a monster. I don't know what guys are going to want to fight him."

-- Also at the UFC 87 post-show press conference, Dana White all-but-confirmed that a Georges St. Pierre vs. BJ Penn rematch is in the works and will likely take place at UFC's final show of the year on December 27th.

I know Mir/Big Nog is happening then, so coming off TUF I think that would be a fine ME. I don't think BJ/GSP will happen in December, I heard something about GSP saying he wanted time off. And Forrest I guess has Chuck next if he wins, and Chuck will need more than three months to prep IMO.

historically the December show is ussually the most stacked card of the year(pretty tough to do this year with 84 and 87) and I think the card needs a little more pop than Nog/Mir. The speculation has been the GSP/Penn fight but thats just been from the fans. Dana said last week that another Montreal show is in the works so it will probally happen then sometime in the new year. The show on superbowl weekend will almost deffinatly be in Vegas so might not happen till late Feb early March.

Time it around affliction and have a double card Penn/GSP , Griffin/Liddell that would surely hurt any show Affliction has.

Why?

guess you think Liddell is going to win?


Does he deserve a title shot so soon?


I bought the last card, it was worth the purchase, even with all the decisions. I won't be purchasing the next couple. I'm not a Liddell fan. I mean, he's alright, but not the style I really dig. Although, his fight with Wandy was exciting, Maybe I'm coming around.

Probably not. But let's be honest, is that all that matters? Chuck/Griffin has HUGE money written all over it. Chuck trying to regain his world title, teacher vs. student from TUF 1 etc. If he wins, I see him getting the next shot, if he truly deserves it or not. Then I guess Lyoto assuming he beats Thiago, which could take place in Mayish? of next year

Liddel does have every right to get a title shot if he beats Evans. Who would you put above him? Machida deserves a shot if he beats Silva but Forrest cant wait that long for a fight. Wandy is 1 and 2 in his last 3. Rampage even if he is cleared to fight doesnt desrve a rematch until he has few wins. Having said all that I think I am picking Evans at 88. If he wins he deffinatly deserves a shot but I think Dana might find a way to weasel out of Evans fighting for the belt next. Chuck/Forrest probally has twice the buys as Evans/Forrest imo. If Evans beats Chuck it will be Wandy/Forrest next i think.

Lyoto only fights 6 weeks after Chuck, I think it's a reasonable wait esp since the next LHW title fight doesn't seem to be taking place in December if GSP/Penn does. Lyoto would be 6-0 in UFC with the credible wins outside it. Chuck would be 2-2 in last 2 years, I think Lyoto would deserve it more.

if they give Liddel a shot before Lyoto (assuming he wins) that would be quite unfair.

normally I would not want a Penn vs Pierre fight because it could smell gimmicky and desperate.
But in this case, it makes enough sense to offset the gimmicky smell.
While Florian deserves a shot, he certainly hasn't shown that he'd be a test for Penn
Pierre has NO ONE to fight. Alves might look quick against Hughes and a champion striker vs Karo; but would be blown out by Pierre.

Also, the UFC has plenty of fighers on other intriguing fights in all weight classes. It's not as if they are running out of match ups. MW and HW divs are both getting better, for example.

why? its been custom for a very long time in fighting sports that the former champ gets a rematch as soon as they are ready. why should this be any different?

Maybe the fact that he did the best OJ Simpson freeway impression in his abortion mobile. I think he may be a bit sick in the head.

comprehend reading much?

Heath Herring ... find another career.

As soon as he may be ready could be 5-10 really. There's no way he's get a license to fight any time soon, and I'd suspect that he's going to have a lengthy legal battle ahead of him. I don't think he's going to have an easy path ahead. Even when he is ready, the title holder will probably be somebody else and Rampage will be long forgotten as the title holder. The dude's messed up.

TBH, I have no idea why the UFC is keeping him around right now. Yeah, he's a great guy and a great fighter, but what he did is pretty screwed up. He was front and center on the weekend, sitting beside GSP at the Thursday press conference, pretending like nothing happened and he was still the face of the UFC. To me, his whole situation is kind of a black cloud over the UFC.

I thought they announced all his problems were physical because he stayed up all night on energy drinks it caused 'temporary delirium' due to dehydration causing him to lose control. Also, I don't think he has a long legal battle. If the lady sues him it will be a civil suit looking for money, not a criminal thing at all. I see no reason why a commission would deny him a fighting license.

I think his court date is tomorrow, so I guess we'll see what kind of charges he's facing.

I talked to Rampage in Minneapolis last Friday for about 10 minutes or so. He was with Bruce Buffer in the NBA Cafe and, legal issues aside, he seemed in very high spirits, joking around, and having a couple beers. I saw interviews he did in the day or two before his "incident" and he seemed out of it. He wasn't that way this past weekend. Gut feeling is that this legal stuff clears up and he gets approved for a license, he'll have a fight lined up shortly after. Whether that's a good thing or not is certainly open for debate.

Oh, I see how you think. real nice, racist












kidding. People have issues, things clear up. He shouldn't lose his profession over one incident, even though it is a major one.

as far as Chuck deserving a shot at the title, as long as it's called what it is, "Making money" and not a title shot eliminator, because like someone else wrote, if Evans wins, he's probably not going to fight for the title. Then again, maybe he will. My guess, and it's just that, is if Evans beats Liddell, he then fights Machida in the eliminator, and it would be billed that way. Neither one of those two guys will sell half as many PPVs as Liddell will.

I rambled

In all seriousness I should not even be saying this. But I see absolutely NO way that Evans wins this fight. Unless something crazy happens. Evans brings nothing to the table.

Except finding a way to win whenever he steps in.


sidenote from Sherdog


The arraignment of former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson (Pictures), scheduled for Friday, has been postponed pending further investigation into his July 15 arrest in Costa Mesa, Calif.

Jackson was arrested on suspicion of felony evading, reckless driving and hit-and-run charges following a chase by authorities that saw elite fighter’s Ford pick-up truck bounce off other vehicles, jump street medians and swerve onto sidewalks, which “caused pedestrians to flee in terror,” according to a Costa Mesa police department report.

“The district attorney’s office is responsible for filing charges and that case is still under investigation based on some new evidence that has been discovered,” said Farrah Emami, spokesperson for the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.

Chuck Liddell Vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin Vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson Vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann Vs. Nate Marquardt

May Not Broadcast

Thiago Tavares Vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch Vs. James Lee
Dong Hyun Kim Vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro Vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert Vs. Jason Day


you are nuts

These are very interesting.

I totally agree. Evans doesn't move well enough on his feet imo, so I think Chuck is going to catch him. His only chance will be to get Chuck to the ground and lay on him. I think it's going to be a quick KO for Liddell or an extremely boring fight (like most of Evans' fights).

responses in bold, and for the second card, I think I've only heard/seen Matt Brown b/c of TUF. Wait, Boetsch is a HW right? He was solid in the one fight Iv'e seen. Maybe seen Lambert, but nothing stood out, for me.

Hammil has looked very slow in his fights to me I think Franklin KO's him. Its pretty much must win for Hendo so that should be very good. I give the card a 7 out of 10 based on 84 being a 10 and 87 being a 9. Rashad's fight with Bisbing was the biggest waste of money snoozefest, its the only time where I felt ripped off as the whole card sucked if I remember correctly.

Hamill's stand-up is so awful, it should be called "sitting down"

ba dum tsh


now I have to go look up what card 84 was. thx for making me work

Agreed. Rashad's striking is not nearly technical enough to give Liddell problems.

What do you think about Kampmann vs. Marquardt? Kampmann is even money and Marquardt is -140.

I think that Marquardt is one of the most underrated fighters out there. Don't get me wrong, I like Kampman and he trains with a great camp (Couture). So his combo of kickboxing (his natural ability), and now grappling, are very good. But I think Marquardt has yet to show us how good he really is.