he was injured in the fight against florian? didn't know that. that would explain the slowness (at least thats what I remember being the problem). either way, he's done for a year, but when he's back I'll still root for him.


so, what, two weeks? that ain't too bad. really looking forward to koscheck vs. gsp. that should be the fight of the evening.

Wow, I guess everyone missed this.

UFC Inks Wanderlei Silva; Brazilian Legend set for December Return

This is exciting for Pride fans and all MMA fans. I am definitely going to Vegas for this. I hope it's not too close to X-mas.

maybe reading post 246, 247, 248 would be a good idea about now.

I had heard (read) the rumors but now it's official. And, I think # 248 is my fav.

well here's some betting lines, anyone see any bargains? I took Koscheck at +220, can easily see him grinding out a decision, looks like good value to me... torn on the Couture/gonzaga fight



UFC 74 - Respect - Matchups August 25, 2007
8/25/2007 7:15 PM Frank Mir vs Antoni Hardonk Maximum wager is $350.
301 Frank Mir -170
302 Antoni Hardonk +150
8/25/2007 10:00 PM Gabriel Gonzaga vs Randy Couture Maximum wager is $350.
303 Gabriel Gonzaga -120
304 Randy Couture +100
8/25/2007 7:00 PM Renato Sobral vs David Heath Maximum wager is $350.
305 Renato Sobral -220
306 David Heath +185
8/25/2007 10:00 PM Roger Huerta vs Alberto Crane Maximum wager is $350.
307 Roger Huerta -380
308 Alberto Crane +320
8/25/2007 9:30 PM Kurt Pellegrino vs Joe Stevenson Maximum wager is $350.
309 Kurt Pellegrino +230
310 Joe Stevenson -270
8/25/2007 7:00 PM Clay Guida vs Marcus Aurelio Maximum wager is $350.
311 Clay Guida -145
312 Marcus Aurelio +120
8/25/2007 9:00 PM Patrick Cote vs Kendall Grove Maximum wager is $350.
313 Patrick Cote +200
314 Kendall Grove -240
8/25/2007 9:00 PM Ryan Jensen vs Thales Leites Maximum wager is $350.
315 Ryan Jensen +240
316 Thales Leites -300
8/25/2007 10:00 PM Georges St Pierre vs Josh Koscheck Maximum wager is $350.
317 Georges St Pierre -260
318 Josh Koscheck +220

god I wish I could go to this fight,...first fight in vegas since I live there and it's the same day as Legends, damnit!

If I could bet on this, I'd bet 1k on Couture getting +100...I would never count that guy out after what I've seen him do in the past. I'd bet St. Pierre as a lock bet even though I dont really like to bet big to win small in UFC but I think this is a lock. I'd also pretty much bet on everyone getting +240 like I usually do.

Of course by "i'd bet" he means "will bet anyway regardless of the fact he can't attend."

lol nah, I dont even know if I'll be able to watch the fight since I'll probably be playing the tourney, I would never bet on something I cant watch. I dont even know if there's a sports book at commerce (I dont think there is)

you know UFC is gettng deep when Clay, Mir, and Babaloooo are not even guaranteed to air.

UFC 76 is looking weak, but for now, I will enjoy this show, for sure

Couture Rnd 4 GNP

GSP: Rnd 2 KO

I definitely would have preferred this result.

Couture just keeps on surprising everyone, he is just incredible. It has been confirmed that he won with a broken arm from blocking a Gonzaga headkick, but still used it to pound Gonzaga out. And did everyone see Couture take a headkick right on the button? Just amazing.

Good to see Guida and GSP win, and I was very happy to see Grove KOed. Booo for Hardonk, something tells me he is not Rickson's top student.

here is a youtube video of the end of the Sobral - Heath fight that caused a bit of controversy -- Heath was apparently disrespectful to Babalu at the weigh-in, not sure the details, but Babalu held the choke for a few seconds after the tapout and after the ref tried to get him to break the hold. Judge for yourself, but they are witholding $25k of Sobral's $50k purse to review his conduct by holding the choke too long

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvbVU9RWmq4

yep, that's a punk thing to do.

I hope his purse does get withheld, apparently Heath wore a tshirt with Babalu's mugshot on it... how outrageously offensive.

wasn't able to see the PPV due to the storms in chicago, but I just read that UFC terminated Babalu's contract because of his holding onto the choke too long

Missed seeing fights for the first time in two years. I had money on Hardonk, and a parlay with Hardonk, Aurelio, and Gonzaga. GOOO MEE!

Babalu is a punk and I am glad to see the UFC take swift action.

That short Randy vid is sick. Two inches up, closer, or further back and I think we have another knockout. Gonzaga's foot hit him in about as good a spot as it could....just as square as it gets.

I will be out of the country for the next 3 weeks so here are my early predictions for UFC75.

Quinton vs Hendo. Hard to bet against either of these guys, but I think it is more difficult to bet against Henderson. Without question Dan has a better chin than Chuck and won't be afraid to get in close unlike Chuck. More tools for Quinton to worry about.

Hamill vs Bisping. This could end up being a sleeper. Bisping by sleeper decision or brutal TKO...there won't be anything in between.

Cro Cop vs Cheick...WOW...Cro Cop might actually have the advantage on the ground...hard to believe. CC makes a comeback in a big way. Brutal KO or Cheick quits first.

Houston Alexander vs. Legionarius. I don't see Houston resting on his laurels from last fight. Look for another statement KO a la Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou. Please Dana, sign RTS.

Marcus Davis vs Paul Taylor. The Irish Hand Grenade by whatever way he wants. I think he is one of the most underrated fighters today. Taylor is a tough kid, but i just don't see Davis losing this one.

Definitely the weakest card in a while. Glad it is free and glad I can DVR it.

When Sherk gets his appeal denied may I suggest a lightweight grand prix??

I have my doubts on whether Sherk is guilty after reading info on the drug and allowable limits. For those of you that "can physically tell" when people are on steroids. Sha right. If it were that easy they wouldn't test. Most athletes takes steroids to recover from injury or training, not to look as big as Sherk does. After a career in wrestling and his SICK SICK SICK workouts, that's sick cubed to all you non math folk, it is not hard to see how he got that big. I am not doubting he had said drug in his system at said limit, but guys who dope with that drug have 5-10x as much in their systems as he did. A "normal" person has half of what he had. Why dope 15% of the way? That just doesn't make sense.

Anyway, glad I found this thread and hope I can contribute more of my babble in the future.

ok ill go first


cro cop by tko (HIGH KICK TO DA FACE!)

hammel by tko ( ref stoppage from ground and pound )

and since dan has never been knocked out ima have to say rampage by decesion.... ( blood fest? )


part stats , part prefrence/hope.

yea, I could see that fight being a straight up slug fest since both will be able to defend takedowns extremely well

well, except for that post above you,

I'm pumped.

I dont get more excited for one card than the other now because you never know which fights will dissapoint/exceed.


Henderson, Rnd 3 KO

Bisping Controversial (Home Town) decision

Cro Cop loses by TKO, he gets chopped down

Henderson, Bisbing, and Crocop winners. And I'm probably gonna be wrong on all of them. I can't remember the last time I predicted a fight correctly. Well, I did pick Randy for the last one, but that was pretty easy. Age don't hold that boy back. But really, this card has me pretty excited for two reasons. One, I really liked Matt Hammil on the show, and if he's trained hard and kept up properly, the match between him and Bisbing should be pretty awesome (they're two of my favorite fighters: yay reality tv!). And I've never seen Henderson fight live, and only in short clips on youtube, so I'm pumped to see what all the fuss is about, and hopfully to see Rampage's silly ass get beat. He's one of those guys that I like but can't stand at the same time. Oh well, beer me.

I hope Rampage wins and Liddel later this month so it sets up a rematch that could take the UFC to a new level. I hope Hammil wins just cuz. Just remember no spoilers till it airs over here please. Maybe I will just stay away from FCP tommorow.

andrew, if you're interested, highspots.com should have a bunch of Hendo's RINGS stuff or RFvideo.com too. If not, check out PRIDEFC.com, they'll have all of the PRIDE stuff. Henderson was also in a few of the mid/late 90s UFC, but he was very green then

Just thought I'd let you guys know that I'm going to UFC tonight, in London


Never been to a UFC event before. I've been to a similar MMA contest called 'Cage Rage' that they have over here in the UK, but I'm quite looking forward to this.


Hopefully, I'll be able to post some pics if I get some good ones.

FUCKIN' CROCOP.

Anyone see Bisping v Hamill? How the fk did Hamill lose that fight on points? I thought it was a clear win for him..

Two words: Cecil Peoples.

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wtf!!!

what was that last fight in the uk... that they gave the hometown the win??? AGAINTS THE US GUY!>!>!!?!?!??!?! PLEASE!! tell me what fight it was

****ING 2nd FIGHT RIGGED FOR THE HOMETOWN OMGG WTF


HAMMEL WON THAT FUXCKING FIGHT

over all good fight...


got 1 1/2 out of 3 fights right,,,,,


mirko lost

hammel shoulda had the fight

and rampage took it

w00t w00t!!!

2/3, and nailed the Bisping fight. That is an outrage. So disappointed that Joe Rogen toe-d the corporate line on that.
Please, I can take one shill, but let Joe be honest with us.

UFC Quinten >>> Pride Quinten


Houston, oh my!. Who's next for him?
He's very marketable too.

Houston vs Drew McFedries would be a barnburner. In other news, goodbye Crocop and Sakara.

no fucking kidding. my buddy and I were commenting that the last 2 fights of his he basically looked "old." like, slower than he used to be, and over all not as into it. he just didn't look like the guy he used to be in pride. oh well, no more cro cop.


I had Hamill winning that fight too, but it was definitely very close. even if he did lose, I don't see him going anywhere any time soon.



and the rampage/henderson fight was freaking awesome. balls out almost the whole time, ground and stand up. I liked.

i agree with mirko...

its hard to say this but like....

washed up? sad.....

oh yeah, did anybody else notice the like 15 different slips of them talking about Fedor last nigh? Rogan called cro cop Fedor twice I think, and they mentioned him a few other times. now that Wanderlai is signed, Fedors one of the real last guys left for them to get. that will be awesome.

Either one is worth a trip to Vegas !!

I am on the fence on the Hammil/Bisping fight. Hammil had the most dominant round of the fight in the first but did little after. It was to close to be the robbery that some are suggesting. Alexander looks like the next big star in the crowded 205 division. Maybe match him up with Shogun after he demolishes Griffin. With UFC and Pride together there is almost to much talent and if you lose 1 or 2 big fights your going back to obscurity. Cro Cop is done, at least on the main ppv cards.

I got a text from hoosier asking who I'd bet yesterday I said "I like kongo, Hamill and whoever is the dog in the Rampage fight"

I knew Kongo would get sick odds and I honestly thought he was AT MOST a slight dog, but probably even money...I heard he was +300 which is insane value. I was planning on betting 500 on him 300 on hamil and 300 on the rampage fight, so I would have made money last night except I couldnt bet because I forgot the fight was already over before they aired it here, which sucked.

Also, Bisbing is a fcking dick and it was such a fccking robbery for hamill who clearly deserved to win...this really sucks because we all know how rigged boxing is, hopefully this doesnt start happening in UFC.

Was a really good night.

A couple of the earlier fights were pretty good too, not sure if they were televised.

Yeah, everyone was pretty disappointed with CroCop, I think he's had his day. Rampage Jackson was impressive and the crowd loved him, especially after his 'strange' but funny interview. 'I know ju-jitsu'... lol.

Just a word on the Bisping fight. While he's British and everyone was chanting his name and backing him to win, the result did not go down too well aferwards. Clearly he shouldn't have won... he was booed and whistled during his interview. Everyone around me shouting 'fix, fix!!' and such, even though they're British. Fight fans here are very patriotic, but also fair and want to see the correct result.

I have a few pics but they're only from my phone so the quality is bad!

Here's one from the Bisping fight.:





Atmosphere was crazy, we all had an amazing night.. the brunette ring girl was utterly and extremely hot. And of course, I got to see my hero, the main man himself... BRUUUUUUUUUUCE BUFFER!!

http://www.matthamill6and0.com/hamill/default.aspx

awesome you got to go see it..I got to go watch the lidell vs rampage fight, and it was absolutely awesome, way better than any boxing fight you could go to.

Anyway, glad to hear people there boo'ed bisbing, I think he's an asshole to say "who's the real winner of ultimate fighter" after hamill clearly b.itched him around all fight. I'm kinda dissapointed that Rogan wouldn't say anything about how bad that decision was.

Also, I laughed soo hard at rampage's interview, it was hilarious.

What did you guys think of the Rampage decision?

I honestly thought the fight could have gone the other way.

Mirko was a big disappointment...again. Cro-Flop? He has long road back to contention, and from what I've seen, he's not likely up to the task.

I agree, the Rampage fight could have went either way, but I'd give the nod to Jackson. Dan looked better than I expected.

As for Hammil/Bisping, I'm not too sure what to think. When I watched it, I figured it was a no-brainer 29-28 unanimous for Hammil, with Bisping winning the third. Some of the critics and writers have said Bisping MIGHT have won the second round, but lost the first and third for sure. If you can make a case for Bisping in the second, then I can see a split decision here. I'm a Bisping fan, but I felt outrage at the decision at the time. In retrospect, I think it was the wrong decision, but not robbery. Besides, Hammil could have locked that fight up by working his ground-and-pound better, but either couldn't or wouldn't. In the first, it looked like he wanted to stay standing, and prove himself as a striker. In the second and third, it looked like Bisping's TD defence and guard were too good for Hammil to put it away. His take-down offense was relatively ineffective, and that could have swayed the judges, especially in the second. If you leave it up to the judges, anything can happen, and that's what Matt did.

Rampage interview is better than Miss Teen South Carolina. I laughed my a$$ off too




I thought it was pretty clear for Rampage. He missed a lot when they traded swings, but he controlled the octagon way better than Henderson in most rounds. After seeing the Bisping decision, though, I was ready for anything when Buffer started reading the result.

Gif fun

Anybody watch The Ultimate Fighter reality show last night? Thought it looks like a pretty interesting season ahead. The fights in the UFC live event last night were pretty good too.

Yea, I like watching TUF though I'm not much of a fan of the coaches this season. The guy who lost last night sure looked timid going into that fight, I think he lost before he ever stepped into the ring.

For sure. For being Serra's #1 guy and supposedly someone from his "camp" he sure didn't look very confident. Good for Hughes for going right after him though. I really didn't like the guy who ended up winning's chances -- looked kinda scrawny and with all his "I'm a vegan - don't fk with my food or my sleep" crap beforehand, seemed like his bark would be bigger than his bite, but I was surprised.

Looks like a pretty turbulent season is ahead, from the promos they've been showing.

9 second KO on the undercard of UFN--let's hope we see that soon!!

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=7931

They're showing reruns of Ultimate Fighter 3 in UK & IRE, just watched the final betweem Ed Herman & Kendall Grove again and it's still the best mma match i've ever seen, it's gonna suck readin about the new series and knowing it won't be on in IRE for 1-2 years, gonna pray for some torrents

Torrents shouldn't be to hard to find.

I don't get why Dana lets these guys tear the house up, I'd get pissed and start tossing these whiny bitches off the show.

I don't doubt that he will toss MINIMUM 2 of them by season's end. There's no way that kind of damage and destruction can go unpunished, especially when he booted the guys that fought in the garden last season. From the amount of fighting that looks to happen in the house, plus the number of clips showing them basically demolishing the house, there should be a LOT of fireworks from Dana this year.