Jeepster80125
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (irishguy @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 5:00 PM)

It's not a reading comprehenision issue fwiw I've been reading most of my life. I see your point but think this fight had far less of the pre fight verbal jarring than most. Rampage said what he said in the heat of the moment and even then it was far from an outlandish ego driven statement. Even his trainer was pretty respectful with his comments saying something along the lines of liking Forrest and thinking he's a great fighter but feeling like Rampage would keep the title for a long time to come. I would be very surprised if either of them had even a moment of regret for their statements after the fight.
Either way as fight fans we should all be pleased at the likely hood of the rematch down the line.
This is really, really funny.
jdrury12
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 12:01 PM
So now what? Forrest's last fight before this was last summer, so he should be able to fight again shortly correct? Is everyone content with a rematch? Is October too soon? For those who don't want a rematch, who else would Forrest fight... If it's gonna be Silva vs. Silva, is Machida getting a shot? This division is insane...
Jadaki
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 12:04 PM
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 3:01 PM)

So now what? Forrest's last fight before this was last summer, so he should be able to fight again shortly correct? Is everyone content with a rematch? Is October too soon? For those who don't want a rematch, who else would Forrest fight... If it's gonna be Silva vs. Silva, is Machida getting a shot? This division is insane...
I'd like to see a rematch before anyone else gets a shot, it's only fair to Rampage since the general feeling seems to be it was a close fight. They got Lidell/Evans coming up, take the winner of that against the winner of another match (Thiago/Wandy maybe) and set them up as the top contender.
BigLebowski
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 3:23 PM
The LHW division is way too deep to give anyone with a recent loss a title shot. Yes, that includes Rampage, Chuck, Wandy, Shogun, and Hendo. The people saying Chuck should get the next shot if he beats Rashad make me laugh. Chuck will have lost 2 out of his last 4. He is not quite top contender status. Even though I think Rampage might have done enough to keep the belt, the scorecards says he lost so he should have to work his way up to top contender status again. I am kind of getting sick of these immediate rematches. The only reason to do that would be if the fighter pool was shallow. Who cares if it was a close fight? These guys are the supposed to be the best of the best....the fights SHOULD be close.
If Rashad beats Chuck I think you actually have to give the shot to Rashad. If Rashad loses I don't see how you can't give it to Machida. If you want a true #1 contender maybe have a Thiago Silva/Machida fight.
Of course none of this takes into account the fact that the UFC really doesn't care who is the legit top contender. If Chuck beats Rashad he will get the next title shot. Since that fight is not until Sept. I can see Forrest having to defend against Machida or Thiago before Chuck gets another shot. Bottom line, if Chuck beats Rashad his next fight after that will be for the title.
BigLebowski
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 3:31 PM
The more I think and read about the Rampage/Forrest fight the more I think Forrest and his corner are not getting their due. They had a really good game plan and Rampage just never got off. Yeah, Rampage landed a couple of nice shots, but he didn't have the same intensity that he had in most of his other fights. Those legs kicks really jacked him up and seemed to take him out of the fight. Like they said on the broadcast, Forrest has matured a ton and gone from the super brawler to a mini-Machida. When you combine that fighting intelligence with his chin and heart, he will be very difficult to beat. If he had KO power he would be lethal.
steve7stud
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 3:31 PM
What is it with some of you guys and the WWE. It amazes me that some of you still watch that. How do you make comparisons from fake wrestling to the UFC. I don't mean that in a bad way, just curious.
Yoda
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 5:05 PM
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 7:31 PM)

What is it with some of you guys and the WWE. It amazes me that some of you still watch that. How do you make comparisons from fake wrestling to the UFC. I don't mean that in a bad way, just curious.
If you are referring to me (since I am the one that mentioned WWE) - I think you misread. I think the WWE is retarded. I made the comparison in a negative way as in; taking the trash talk to extreme and ridiculous lengths such as "i'll retire, i'll give up my purse" sounds more like a WWE interview than a professional fighter interview.
grocery_mony
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 5:53 PM
Havent had internet for a couple weeks so this is my first night back.
My thoughts on 86. Forrest fought the only kinda fight that gave him a chance to win and he did it perfectly. I actually thought it was gonna end in the first when Rampage was on top and dragged Forrest to the cage on the ground like it was nothing. Forrest kicked the shit out of Rampage's leg and that rweally slowed him down. I actually thought after the first that Forrest was gonna go on and win because of how he was fighting and being able to wether the storm. One of the guys I was watching the fight with said that Forrest deserved to lose because he didnt do enought to take a title but he had no awnser to the questuion what 3 rounds did Rampage win. This sets up even more great fights at 205. Rua/Rampage, Wandy/Forrest, Liddel/Forrest(if Chuck beats Evans)
The rest of the card was meh. Yves Lavigne is my new favorite ref. Holy shit was that Kos/Lyttle fight gross and Yves let it go the distance.
What a shitty crowd, they were booing 40 seconds into the Griffin fight and were obnoxious the whole night. Booing Kos, booing Forrest, what a shame.
steve7stud
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 8:33 PM
QUOTE (Yoda @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 6:05 PM)

If you are referring to me (since I am the one that mentioned WWE) - I think you misread. I think the WWE is retarded. I made the comparison in a negative way as in; taking the trash talk to extreme and ridiculous lengths such as "i'll retire, i'll give up my purse" sounds more like a WWE interview than a professional fighter interview.
No I didn't misread. WWE has been mentioned several times in the MMA thread. Don't be so sensitive.
Actuary
Monday, July 7th, 2008, 8:48 PM
QUOTE (ah2388 @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 4:31 AM)

DONT READ IF YOU DONT WANT SPOILER FOR ME AT 86
okee dokee.
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give Machida the shot. Please.
oh and yes, Forrest is a smart figher nowadays. Jardine knocked sense into him.
NWA >>> WWE
Yoda
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 5:26 AM
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 12:33 AM)

No I didn't misread. WWE has been mentioned several times in the MMA thread. Don't be so sensitive.
I'm not i'm just addressing your question since I was the last one to mention it

Sheesh
KDawgCometh
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 8:30 AM
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 6:31 PM)

What is it with some of you guys and the WWE. It amazes me that some of you still watch that. How do you make comparisons from fake wrestling to the UFC. I don't mean that in a bad way, just curious.
There are definite comparisons, but not in the in ring sense. Dana White has been smart to position himself as a MMA version of Vince McMahon and they have been promoted in the same kind of way
steve7stud
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 12:51 PM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 9:30 AM)

There are definite comparisons, but not in the in ring sense. Dana White has been smart to position himself as a MMA version of Vince McMahon and they have been promoted in the same kind of way
Keith if you watch that fake wrestling garbage on TV, you are never allowed to train with me, never allowed to discuss fights with me anymore, never allowed to.........I'll think of other things too.
I'm kidding obv.
Sometimes when I meet girls and they ask about my interests besides poker, I tell them about the UFC. Some of them think it's wrestling.
Now I did watch wrestling when it first came out, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Ricky the Dragon SteamBoat, etc. But I was like 5 at the time, and didn't know it was fake. I just can't see how people can get into it these days when they have passed buberty. But to each their own.
Totally off topic, and back to the UFC.
It seems pretty obvious that the UFC wanted Forrest to win the fight. Not saying that the card was "rigged". But I know that Dana is a happy camper. At least I would assume.
My hat is off to Forrest for fighting a smart fight. Rampage looked the least dynamic that I have seen him in ages. I still am not convinced that Forrest won the fight. Perhaps I'm biased.
Almeida on the other hand really "should" have won his fight.
Ron_Mexico
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 3:37 PM
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 4:51 PM)

Sometimes when I meet girls and they ask about my interests besides poker, I tell them about the UFC. Some of them think it's wrestling.
Now I did watch wrestling when it first came out, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Ricky the Dragon SteamBoat, etc. But I was like 5 at the time, and didn't know it was fake. I just can't see how people can get into it these days when they have passed buberty. But to each their own.
Yeah, you must rake in the vag with those interests. Poker and MMA. It's amazing that you have enough time to type, what with all the naked girls waiting in your bed.
As far as your questions about WWE, and before I answer I'll mention that I don't watch, it's about the storyline. It's a mini soap opera in the same sense that some people watch Beverly Hills 90210 or One Tree Hill. It's a guilty pleasure. Now, they way you phrased your question with the "I don't mean to offend, just curious" then go on with "When I was 5" and "passed puberty" is a little insulting, but hey, I dig insulting, so right on. But yeah, back in 1998 and 1999, I got into the WWF a little, as far as watching some of the shows (never a PPV). I gotta tell you, there was nobody better when giving a speech or putting on a show like The Rock. He was huge comedy. Most of it was silly, but if you go in knowing that, the stunts are impressive. When in high school, 1989 and 1990, I went to some live events. It was funny, because some of the guys were super small, surprisingly. But I haven't watched in this millenium, thankfully. It does get excessively silly most times.
Ok, back to the MMA. UFC 87, go GSP
grocery_mony
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 5:23 PM
89 will apparently be free on spike but tape delayed, Bisbing/Leben sounded like a pretty weak main event but not complaining if its free and it is a fight I do think is intresting. Rich Franklin is moving to 205, kind of weird following Silva but the division continue to get deeper. 88's card is starting to look very good with Franklin/Hammil and Hendo/Palhares on the card aswell as the Liddel/Evans main event.
Does anyone know if shogun is close to returning?
BigLebowski
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 5:57 PM
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 9:23 PM)

89 will apparently be free on spike but tape delayed, Bisbing/Leben sounded like a pretty weak main event but not complaining if its free and it is a fight I do think is intresting. Rich Franklin is moving to 205, kind of weird following Silva but the division continue to get deeper. 88's card is starting to look very good with Franklin/Hammil and Hendo/Palhares on the card aswell as the Liddel/Evans main event.
Does anyone know if shogun is close to returning?
Still rumor and rumor
Rumor is Shogun will be back fairly soon fighting late this year at worst.
grocery_mony
Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 6:21 PM
QUOTE (BigLebowski @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 6:57 PM)

Still rumor and rumor
Rumor is Shogun will be back fairly soon fighting late this year at worst.
I thought Hendo confirmed it
jdrury12
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 6:02 PM
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 8:23 PM)

89 will apparently be free on spike but tape delayed, Bisbing/Leben sounded like a pretty weak main event but not complaining if its free and it is a fight I do think is intresting. Rich Franklin is moving to 205, kind of weird following Silva but the division continue to get deeper. 88's card is starting to look very good with Franklin/Hammil and Hendo/Palhares on the card aswell as the Liddel/Evans main event.
Silva is only fighting this 205 to be in a big mainstream fight. He's not staying or planning on chasing the 205 title. And yeah, 88 will be good. Apparently Dana announced that Liddell/Evans is for #1 Contender? I think it's pretty sad if Chuck gets the shot.
grocery_mony
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 6:17 PM
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 7:02 PM)

Silva is only fighting this 205 to be in a big mainstream fight. He's not staying or planning on chasing the 205 title. And yeah, 88 will be good. Apparently Dana announced that Liddell/Evans is for #1 Contender? I think it's pretty sad if Chuck gets the shot.
If Anderson wants to fight every 3 or 4 months I think he can defend at 185 and climb the ranks at 205 simultaneously. He is apparently fighting Okami after this fight back at 185. If he wins that the only other potential big fight at 185 would be Bisbing if he beats Leben(not a slam dunk imo). Defend his tiltle every 6-8 months and fight a 205er the rest of the time if all goes well. At a time when mma is getting more and more poular by the week Anderson can be the Michael Jordan of the sport and 185 limits his exposure.
jdrury12
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 6:58 PM
QUOTE (MMAJunkie)
Manager: Anderson Silva fights Yushin Okami after July 19 fight
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Jul 10, 2008 at 1:19 pm ET
After making his light heavyweight debut against James Irvin at next week's UFC Fight Night 14 event, UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva (21-4 MMA, 6-0 UFC) will return to 185 pounds to defend his title against top contender Yushin Okami (22-4 MMA, 6-1 UFC).
Ed Soares, Silva's manager, confirmed the plans while a guest on today's edition of TAGG Radio (taggradio.com), the official radio partner of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).
However, Soares said that a date for the Silva-Okami fight won't be determined until after the July 19 fight with Irvin.
Silva and Soares want to have a better idea of the fighter's health status before committing to a date for the fight with Okami. (However, sources close to the event tell TAGG Radio and MMAjunkie.com that the UFC has tentatively targeted UFC 88, which takes place Sept. 6 in Atlanta, for the fight.)
Silva, who's 6-0 in the UFC (with six stoppages), has made short work of the UFC's middleweight division, posting three consecutive title defenses (and a victory over Travis Lutter in a non-title affair) after defeating former champ Rich Franklin for the title in October 2006.
When the UFC needed a headliner for UFC Fight Night 14 to counter Affliction's debut show (a star-studded affair that also takes place July 19), Silva agreed to take it. The UFC and Spike TV have since launched a marketing campaign that lets fans know they can watch "the world's best fighter" on free basic cable. "Banned," meanwhile, comes with a $39.95 pay-per-view fee.
However, Soares, who also manages top UFC light heavyweight contender Lyoto Machida, said that Silva doesn't expect to make a run at the 205-pound title, and instead, will only move up when it satisfies their goal of "being involved in some of the biggest fights in UFC history."
"[Silva] doesn't want to make a run at the (light-heavyweight) championship because his friend Lyoto is in the line for it," Soares said. "He doesn't want to fight Lyoto, and Lyoto doesn't want to fight him."
Despite his perfect 13-0 overall record and 5-0 mark in the UFC, Machida likely won't get the first crack at new UFC light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin, who won the title this past weekend at UFC 86. Soares said that Machida will likely have "one more fight" before he gets a shot at the belt. (Soares said Machida's fight will take place in October, an opponent has been determined, but it hasn't yet been signed.)
As for Silva, Soares repeatedly stressed that he wants his fights to be "events."
"We'll take it one step at a time," Soares said. "But what he's looking forward to fighting the best in the world and creating events. At this point in his career, he wants every fight to be an event."
The 205-pound division could provide that with superstars such as Chuck Liddell, Quinton Jackson and Griffin providing interesting and marketable fights with Silva.
However, Soares said the middleweight division will remain Silva's focus.
"As the (middleweight) contenders come up, he's still going to defend the belt," Soares said.
Soares also gave updates on clients Paulo Filho and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira during today's segment. To hear the full interview, download today's edition of TAGG Radio, available for free in the TAGG Radio archives.
I don't see him going for the title even if Machida fell off the rankings. People bitch too much and he isn't going to fight four times a year to do both. I can see some kind of fight with a Chuck or something big, but I really don't think he's going for the belt at 205, and he has Okami next at 185 and Dana promised Cote a shot if he wins on the Bisping card so he's there plus if Bisping beats Leben he has an argument, 185 may be at a lower level, but that doesn't mean he only has to defend the belt once a monster comes up.
grocery_mony
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 7:04 PM
Can anyone confirm that Fedor pulled out of Affliction:Banned?
Ron_Mexico
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 7:13 PM
if Fedor dropped out, that ticket is officially a terd.
Ok, maybe not a terd, but not a big ticket purchase.
What's the correct spelling? Terd or Turd?
grocery_mony
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 7:31 PM
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 8:13 PM)

if Fedor dropped out, that ticket is officially a terd.
Ok, maybe not a terd, but not a big ticket purchase.
What's the correct spelling? Terd or Turd?
A buddy of mine said a guy he works with told him today that Fedor pulled out but I cant find any info on it.
BigLebowski
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 7:32 PM
QUOTE (jdrury12 @ Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 10:02 PM)

Silva is only fighting this 205 to be in a big mainstream fight. He's not staying or planning on chasing the 205 title. And yeah, 88 will be good. Apparently Dana announced that Liddell/Evans is for #1 Contender if and only if Chuck wins? I think it's pretty sad if Chuck gets the shot.
FYP
grocery_mony
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 7:35 PM
QUOTE (BigLebowski @ Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 8:32 PM)

FYP
yea Dana sure has a hard on for Chuck. But to be fair Chuck was the guy when the UFC took off. Chuck/ Forrest sounds so much better than Rashad/Forrest to me anyways.
chaosnhavoc
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 8:16 PM
QUOTE (chaosnhavoc @ Sunday, July 6th, 2008, 2:04 PM)

Both Dana and Anderson have stated that he is going for the 205 belt and Dana has changed his mind and going to allow for the first time a fighter contend in 2 weight classes at the same time. Looks like its more that a 1 time deal.
White indicated that the UFC middleweight champion’s arrival at 205 isn’t a one-trick pony. He feels that Silva wants to continue defending his current belt, while working to capture light heavyweight gold at the same time. And for the first time in the promotion’s history, he’s okay with that. Never before has a UFC champion been allowed to chase another belt in another weight class.
“He wants to hold both the 185 and the 205 pound belt and he wants to defend them both. Normally I won't let guys do stuff like that because it's just… stupid. I'll let Anderson Silva do it,” White told MMAWeekly.com.
What is the truth?
AimHigher
Saturday, July 12th, 2008, 5:38 AM
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/silva-nev...205-lbs-812854/"He said he never intended to fight at 205 pounds and that he was doing it because of a personal request from Dana White. He said he plans to go back to 185 pounds after this fight against Irvin because the 205-pound division belongs to his teammate Lyoto Machida."
It also states Silva has 7 fights left on his contract. Do you think if he doesn't renew his contract he'll have gone undefeated in the UFC?
BigLebowski
Saturday, July 12th, 2008, 11:00 AM
I'm huge fan of Silva and all, but winning 12 in a row as the champ is pretty studly. He certainly looks unbeatable at the moment, but all it takes is one punch hitting the right spot. The only thing saving him right now is the 185lb division isn't the strongest and he has already beat all of top challengers pretty convincingly. I am not a huge Bisping fan, but he looks really good at 185. I don't think he is anywhere near ready for Silva yet though. Give him another 3 fights minimum against increasingly better competition and he could be the one to challenge Silva. Using logic and MMAth Silva should not have any trouble against his likely two upcoming opponents of Okami and Leites. I can see the UFC really trying to push Bisping along and have a fight with Leites for the #1 contender though. I think that would be a mistake.
steve7stud
Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 4:02 AM
QUOTE (BigLebowski @ Saturday, July 12th, 2008, 12:00 PM)

I'm huge fan of Silva and all, but winning 12 in a row as the champ is pretty studly. He certainly looks unbeatable at the moment, but all it takes is one punch hitting the right spot. The only thing saving him right now is the 185lb division isn't the strongest and he has already beat all of top challengers pretty convincingly. I am not a huge Bisping fan, but he looks really good at 185. I don't think he is anywhere near ready for Silva yet though. Give him another 3 fights minimum against increasingly better competition and he could be the one to challenge Silva. Using logic and MMAth Silva should not have any trouble against his likely two upcoming opponents of Okami and Leites. I can see the UFC really trying to push Bisping along and have a fight with Leites for the #1 contender though. I think that would be a mistake.
As far as pure power shots go, Irvin has the best chance to KO Silva. I would say that is his only chance. I know that Henderson hits really hard, pretty sure that Marquardt does as well. But in the grand scheme of things, I have to figure that Irvin hits the harderst. I could be wrong though. I don't like the odds on Silva. But I think it's a play that I'm going to make. These books are making it really tough on me. I hope the lines even out a bit.
I like Hermes Franco vs Frankie Edgar. And Franco is the dog here. Anyone have any thoughts on that fight?
Another interesting one that was just added is CB Dolloway vs Jesse Taylor. I'm hoping it's a pretty even line. I think Jesse will win a decision pretty easily.
grocery_mony
Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 7:18 AM
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 5:02 AM)

As far as pure power shots go, Irvin has the best chance to KO Silva. I would say that is his only chance. I know that Henderson hits really hard, pretty sure that Marquardt does as well. But in the grand scheme of things, I have to figure that Irvin hits the harderst. I could be wrong though. I don't like the odds on Silva. But I think it's a play that I'm going to make. These books are making it really tough on me. I hope the lines even out a bit.
I like Hermes Franco vs Frankie Edgar. And Franco is the dog here. Anyone have any thoughts on that fight?
Another interesting one that was just added is CB Dolloway vs Jesse Taylor. I'm hoping it's a pretty even line. I think Jesse will win a decision pretty easily.
I would stay away from the Franca/Edgar fight. Its hard to know whwere Franca is at without the help of performance enhancers which he was suspended for a year for.
I agree that Taylor will beat Dolloway in probally a 3 round snoozefest
BigLebowski
Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 9:48 AM
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 11:18 AM)

I would stay away from the Franca/Edgar fight. Its hard to know whwere Franca is at without the help of performance enhancers which he was suspended for a year for.
I agree that Taylor will beat Dolloway in probally a 3 round snoozefest
When Franca admitted he used steroids it was to repair an injury and not for power/endurance. The fact that he didn't once try to claim he was clean makes me tend to believe his story. In that case I don't think we will see a different Franca at all. Edgar is one scrappy mofo though. IMO it will be fight of the year up to this point.
I can Taylor over-training for this one thinking he has something really big to prove. And he does. I hope CB is practicing his guillotine because he is going to be constantly defending the takedown. As reckless as Jesse has looked I think he can be caught with a good one.
steve7stud
Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 1:21 PM
I'm not a big fan of "staying away from a fight" for speculative reasons. I know that a lot of people have said in the past to stay away from certain fights, and they were probably right.
If I am going to the UFC, I'll make a play on the whole card. Some of the plays might be smaller on those, "stay away from situations", but if I'm there, I want to make a play on some level.
Actuary
Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 6:02 PM
I'd pick Hermes withclose lines
Edgar looked really small in his last fight.
I'll bet my role on 1-3 fights. Some though is out already on Fedor, so I may not be broke either way afterwards
...................................
Ok, split remaining role on Anthony Johnson and Hermes Franca.
grocery_mony
Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 6:26 PM
So what happens if Fedor loses? If that happens it could be a one and done for Affliction. Dont get me wrong Sylvia is a respectable opponent its just that he is as entertaining as watching paint dry. Fedor is the one thing making this a PPV event.
chaosnhavoc
Monday, July 14th, 2008, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Sunday, July 13th, 2008, 7:26 PM)

So what happens if Fedor loses? If that happens it could be a one and done for Affliction. Dont get me wrong Sylvia is a respectable opponent its just that he is as entertaining as watching paint dry. Fedor is the one thing making this a PPV event.
I think your right, if Fedor loses the hype of Fedor/Corture is totally deflated. Corture was banking on Affliction getting him this match up but if Fedor loses thats not going to be their payday.
steve7stud
Monday, July 14th, 2008, 5:12 PM
Sigh.
UFC lines are getting really bad.
There was a time when the lines were great. Sometimes they had the underdogs and the favorites backwards. These days, they are making the lines so bad that it isn't even worth making a play on........
grocery_mony
Monday, July 14th, 2008, 7:05 PM
QUOTE (steve7stud @ Monday, July 14th, 2008, 6:12 PM)

Sigh.
UFC lines are getting really bad.
There was a time when the lines were great. Sometimes they had the underdogs and the favorites backwards. These days, they are making the lines so bad that it isn't even worth making a play on........
Yea I have been saying for awhile now that long term mma betting is gonna be tough to beat with 15% juice being charged. Our only hope is that it keeps getting more and more popular and there are more options for wagering because of it. To bad pinnacle isnt available in the US.
AimHigher
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 3:55 PM
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Monday, July 14th, 2008, 3:26 AM)

So what happens if Fedor loses? If that happens it could be a one and done for Affliction. Dont get me wrong Sylvia is a respectable opponent its just that he is as entertaining as watching paint dry. Fedor is the one thing making this a PPV event.
Fedor is going to do to Sylvia what Mir did to him, only quicker.
AimHigher
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 3:55 PM
grocery_mony
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:01 PM
QUOTE (AimHigher @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:55 PM)

What an idiot! The dude seems real cool at least on tv but this mind boggling consider how much he has to lose. LH division is full of guys who deserve a shot so any situation like this deffinatly moves him down that list.
bdc30
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:05 PM
wow, that's a shocker. Wonder how Dana handles this one....
Franchise632
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:18 PM
Don't know how it will play out but Dana started by jumping in his plane and flying to Cali to bail him out....seriously it sounds like it would be something where Rampage would have been under the influence but at this point they are saying he was sober. Not sure how you explain this one but hopefully he is okay.
grocery_mony
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:22 PM
Maybe Forrest hits harder then we give him credit for.
bdc30
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:47 PM
anyone else thankful that he's NOT the lh champ right now? That would be a black mark that mma doesn't need.
Franchise632
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:54 PM
Champ or not it is a black eye for the sport. Rampage is one of the more recognizable fighters in the game right now because of his charisma. Its going to be a big story and bad for all involved.
grocery_mony
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:56 PM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 5:47 PM)

anyone else thankful that he's NOT the lh champ right now? That would be a black mark that mma doesn't need.
Yea. I have watched that fight 3 times now and am convinced Forrest won clearly. You could even make an arguement that round 2 was 10-8 considering Quentin didnt even attempt a strike the entire round and just held on. There is also a arguement that Forrest won round 1 considering he outlanded Rampage about 3-1 but Rampage landed the big uppercut that knocked him down.
PrtyPSux
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 5:29 PM
lol
Actuary
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 9:03 PM
wonder how close he came to actually killing someone.
a total idiot.
I'm convinced angels watch over young boys driving like maniacs. But soon you grow up and understand how dangerous 3000lb objexts going 50mph can be.
huge black mark in my eyes. To his character.
hank213
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 9:21 PM
I think he had a pretty good shot at getting away. I mean, that truck just blends into traffic seemlessly.
chaosnhavoc
Wednesday, July 16th, 2008, 12:58 AM
Yahoo SPorts has Rampage unable to go through Booking and he is at the OC hospital.. I see where this is going.. Pain Killers, Depression Drugs, and probably I am sorry Dana Please bail me out.
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