I see the DVR is taping the replay of TUF Finals. As I'm confirming and preparing to stop-delete it, I see it's Eastman vs McFedres, which was not shown Saturday night. Right? Maybev they have less commercials on the replay. I don't recall this before. There were a minmim of fights shown last night though with all the 3 rounders.

and does Eastman only fight brothers?

ISASP

LOL

No actually they did show the Eastman fight after the ME last night.

But it was after 3 hours, yes?

Yes right before the replay started. Blinked and you missed it. KO of the night so they probally felt obligated to show at lest one KO.

What is everyones opinion on womens mma? I for one hate it. I hope the UFC stays away from having a womens division.

I prefer men and thus would not want the time taken up by women. If it were actually in addition to the men, I'd be cool with it

It's a freakshow for the most part right now. If the women actually trained and they could put up a division that was respectable then there wouldn't be a big problem with me, but I think that's a long way off.

Kinda related, Kim Couture(Randy's wife) broke her jaw in her mma debut.

So I hear Afflictoin is going to send out promotional packs for people wanting to post some posters/leave some cards at gyms. I figure whatever can't help to spread the word. Trump gets involved, and apparently this is what I'm going to get in the mail.


lol bonfire

this much I already knew.


I have no interest in watching women fight. I want my fighters strong, muscular, tanned... let me stop. no but really, I like my women holding signs that say what round it is not grappling gloves.

If the fighting was good, I'd watch it. Gina Carano is a decent fighter, the problem is she has no competition. If all of women fighters were like that, I'd watch it. Until then, keep it on the smaller shows.

If UFC had a Chick Division, I would spend as much time watching that as I do watching LPGA, WNBA, and LPBA....

women fighting in general doesn't do much for me

Me neither. Seeing Kim Couture's bloodied up face on the front page of sherdog.com pretty much determined my stance on women's MMA.

I'm in love with Gina Carano.....also, every chick fight I've seen has been intense. Although I do agree, watching girls beat each other to a bloody mess is hard to watch.

it's teh bloody mess part that doesn't do it for me. I have no problem watching girls do grappling matches, but, I just don't really need to see a girl get insanely bloodied up

not a fan of girl fights maybe if they had ko power it wld be differant , we watch fights <me n e ways> for the aspect of skill vs power and anyone can win at any second in men fights. in a girls fight its 95 % always goes to the distance.

FYP

Isn't she bigger than you? Not that that's a bad thing. She probably walks around at 155 or more I'm guessing if she couldn't cut to 140 in a month. She was 4lbs over last fight.

After seeing her expression here I highly doubt if she will ever set foot in the ring again. She has that "I so ****ed up--what was I thinking" look.

And Randy...good luck getting a BJ anytime soon.

I agree with mase...womens fights tend to be bloody messes because they don't have knockout power and they typically aren't going to take it to the ground.

Honestly, I have no interest in seeing a guys fight like that.

Ah, boxing.

Yeah, women fighting don't do it for me either.

AimHigher,

love the sig
I did not pay for that fight and am glad to get to watch that sick arm bar

Wish he could've pulled the upset vs Kos, but that may get him to the main card faster

She walks probably around 170, some people were saying she was around 190 at one point.

She's still get her salad tossed by me, after the post fight shower of course.

So I went to the UFC on Saturday and had a ton of fun. The Pearl is a pretty small venue. Once again, we had just about the very best seats in the house. We are getting quite spoiled.

I went 7 for 9.

Here were my picks.

-Sadollah
-Riddle
-Arroyo
-Fisher
-McFedries
-Horn
-Sanchez
-Hazelett
-Grove

If you saw the fights you can see that I lost with Arroyo and Horn. I don't mind losing with Arroyo. Think I made a mistake with Horn...such is life.

I had another meh event. Dropped $2 when it was said and done for an ROI of -2% . Dolloway hurt me bad. Was my biggest bet. It is ever good to root against the guy you bet on? I really wanted Amir to win, but I just didn't see it happening if Dolloway came into the fight with better cardio.

I had that same problem. I just couldn't bring myself to bet on CB. I know that you are never supposed to let emotions get involved when betting on sports though. So I decided to make a small play on Amir which would have been the same thing as making a larger play on CB given the odds.

I have a funny feeling we ALL may be saying these exact same words a couple weeks from now, just with the name "Forrest" in place of "Amir"...

:crossing the living shit out of my fingers:

Not me. I would like to see Forrest win. But I don't think he will. The guy is capable of anything, but Rampage is a pretty big favorite. Forrest needs to try and get top position, and get the fight into the later rounds. That is where he will have an edge.

I'm perfectly happy betting on Rampage as long as the price is halfway decent.

as much as rampage is a huge favorite in this fight, and rightly so - i'd say at the very least a vast majority of mma fans would be elated to see Forrest find a way to get it done

I hope those people make HUGE bets on Forrest. If I stood on the sidelines, I would like to see Forrest win.........

Who isnt?

Same.

For the Forrest fight, I'm betting Rampage and I'm waiting for all those Forrest bets to come in late before jumping Rampage fairly large.

UFC 88. Dan Henderson fighting at middleweight vs the stocky, bearded brazilian dude that transitioned to that sick armbar in UFC 84 I'm too lazy to look it up, but its on the yahoo sports MMA page.


HEY, I BROKE AN MMA STORY, sort of. PAY ATTENTION TO ME, I NEED IT.

sweet.,

Man UFC has so many fighters I want to see.

Rousimar Palhares.....he provided me with my one of my single largest wins in MMA to date. Came in as the underdog vs Salaverry.

I don't know much about the guy other than he subs the hell out of his opponents (trains with BTT), but I think anyone without a decent striking game will have a tough time with Hendo. I would expect Henderson to come into this as a pretty decent favorite and I can see all of the MMA bandwagon money going on him. Should make for some pretty good odds on Palhares.

Oh, and you are a little late...it was announced late last week, but I'll give it to you.

the thing is, I don't see forrest getting top position against jackson. Jackson is an excellent wrestler and has great takedown defense. This will be forrest's biggest problem as I doubt that he'll be able to out punch Jackson

Yea as much as I would love to see Forrest win I just cant think of a senario on how he wins this. If he stand s with him and uses his reach and just kicks the shit out of his legs I think eventually rampage will get in and land some bombs. I really like Rampage alot but just seeing Forrest win the LH championship would make me go apeshit after watching him from day 1. Hell a year ago I thought he was 1 loss away from being relegated to prelim duty or worse.

Meh I was hoping it would be Bisbing/Hendo at 89 in England. Probally Bisbing/Leben though and that should be intresting.


edit: Does anyone have a link where i can rewatch the Forrest/Shogun fighg. I remember Forrest dominated but wouldnt mind watching it again.

Anyone have any theories on why the UFC goes to England so much. at least twice a year seems excessive for a population of 60 million. I gotta think the ppv buy numbers go down when they tape delay them. could be an effort to crush Cage Rage.

This is a pretty good site for archived fights and they have recent fights up quickly too: http://www.mmalinker.com/

This is a pretty good site to get very recent fights along with other misc video: http://www.mma-fight-video.com/

I think it's an easy market to develop for them, where they don't really have to change their marketing strategies. They can go do all of their shows pretty much the same way as they do them in the US. Plus, having Bisping as their "in" is really good timing for them. If he can work his way up to contention, what better way to have a huge show in the UK than Bisping vs. Silva for the title (which could be next year at this rate).

I also don't think it's hurting the US market at all. The PPV's have been a few weeks apart when they have been going overseas lately, so it's just a bonus show now.

I take back everything I said defending Jesse Taylor

From a Matthew Riddle interview:

"I was in the limo when [Taylor kicked out the window], and it wasn't just the window," Riddle said. "The night before, he got kicked out of another club for wrestling around all in the bathroom, out of control.

"Then the following night, we went out with Rampage to PURE (nightclub), and the security didn't want to kick Jesse out because he is so big and a fighter, and the last thing they needed was this guy going crazy. So they asked me ... and a bunch of guys from the show to escort him out. When we told [Taylor] he got kicked out, he flipped out in Caesars Palace.

"We were all dragging [Taylor] through the casino and trying to get him out the front door, and security was threatening to hit him up with pepper spray and Tazers because he was out of control. We finally got to the front door, and we literally couldn't find a taxi, so I had to pay for a limo.

"In the limo, we are still holding him down because he was so pissed off and going crazy. Eventually, about 10 minutes into the ride, he calms down, and we get back to the Palace Station. Now, Zuffa (the UFC's parent company) owns the Palace Station, so that's why they have all the video footage. So what does JT do the second we park? (He) lies down on his back and kicks out the biggest window in the limo."

After the fight last Saturday, Riddle was sitting in front of me. Totally chill kid. He's young, but I like him a lot. Jesse is not a bright guy.

Riddle was cut, looked great esp for new fighter . I didn't care for his adrenaline induced pounding on the TUF qulifier after the guy was already dead; but otherwise he is growing on me

I recently did some reading up on Performity. No clue why the guy makes his opinions public. But perhaps he posts one way and bets another, nut sure. In all honesty, its -ev for him to post his picks, but I'm not complaining.

Here is where he and I differ. And it's actually where I differe from a lot of people.

Pefromity said something like as opposed to trying to handicap a fight, you are better off line hunting. While I think he makes a valid point. I disagree.

I've talked about this plenty of times before, but just because you feel like you are getting the right price on a fight, does not mean that you should bet that way. If you do research on two fighters, the FIRST thing you should do is not even look at the lines. You want to ask yourself who you believe is going to win, and how. Once you have come to a hard and fast conclusion, then look at the lines. Anything can happen in MMA. But I have found that when I am confident in my picks, regardless of the lines, whether I am betting a dog or a favorite, things seem to work out. Sadly, the odds are not what they used to be, which makes things even more difficult. I cannot stress how important it is to look at a fight as being even money when you consider wagering. And then look at the line second. Just my thoughts......

Theoretically, this is not the correct way to bet. Using human logic I agree and it is what I tend to do. I have definitely bet underdogs simply because the of the line, but in general I am always going to bet the guy who I think is going to win the fight. It is a very short sighted view, but because events are monthly it seems to be the wise thing to do. Now if you were betting every game in the MLB season it would be silly not to hold the spread in high regard.

I bet PGA 2-balls quite a bit on the weekends and do just what you say. I will pick the guy I think is going to win, but if the odds are heavily stacked against him I will take the other guy every single time. When you get two guys of that caliber playing HU there is virtually NO reason one of them should be bigger than a 3/2 favorite. IIRC Tiger went off as a 3/1 favorite to beat Westwood in the last round of the Open. That is absolutely ridiculous. I loaded up on Westwood and had Mediate to win when I got him at 12/1. Needless to say Tiger's putt on 18 on Sunday cost me a pretty penny. Lost both bets. Dood is sick.

This last event was the first time I noticed the lines at Bodog had moved dramatically after Performify released his picks. I don't think it has anything to do with EV if he actually bets his fighters as long as he does it before he releases his column. Obviously it is hugely +EV if he actually bets the guy he says will get beat.

That's a great point. A lot of people try and approach MMA like traditional sports betting, and I think that's the mistake.

I'm starting to agree with your logic more Steve. Perhaps it's because MMA fights, while not without freak outcomes, are far less variant than, say an NBA game.

I assume

TY sir. excelent links. I watched the Griffin/Rua fight, Forrest had a big size advantage then the Rua/Rampage fight and it looked like Rua was bigger than Rampage. Rampage has a got a serious chin, he took a shitload of knees in the Rua fight before it was finnally stopped.