I didn't order thsi one and I usually order all of them. so I downloaded it and the re were some great fights. Guida got hosed for sure. Ed herman back to old form. UFC is so good right now, so many good fighters

so how long before wanderlei and fedor come on over?



dan henderson comes over and gets a title fight in his FIRST FIGHT. Don't see any reason why either Fedor or Wanderlei can't just come over and get the belt just by doing an interview.

I'm still surprised that they put Henderson in the LHW division. He is more of a natural 185er and would give a lot more depth to that division, which needs it IMO. That's going to be a very hard fight for Jackson though. Henderson has competed in the olympics and is an excellent fighter. It's gonna be hard for me to watch, cause I really like both fighters

I don't know much, if anything, about henderson, other than he was a badass in pride. What I don't really like is that he's coming to UFC and getting a title shot automatically. I mean, sure he was great in Pride, but I feel like fighters should have to prove their way in their actual division (I don't know what to call the collective groups of UFC, Pride, KOTC, whatever). Maybe thats just me, and I absolutely see where Dana's coming from, but still. And if Rashad Evans wins against Tito, and doesn't get a title shot, then, jesus, that would just be ridiculous. I thought for sure he would've had one by now. And I don't even like the guy.


Oh well, go Jens.

andrew, Henderson is and insanely decorated fighter. He holds a PRIDE belt and was a winner of RINGS' King of Kings tournament before RINGS collapsed. He also fought in the UFC back in the late 90s, he is defininetly deserving of getting a title shot right off the bat, but I also think that shot should be in the middleweight division so they can add more depth to that division

Diaz > Gamburyan by submission.

Pulver > Penn by TKO.

Does anybody know if the Ultimate Finale is going to be replayed and what time? I got a wedding I have to go to tomorrow.

yeah I have no doubt he is an awesome fighter and whatnot. I don't know, I just don't really like the idea of him coming over and getting an instant title shot for what he's done in other places. Thats just my opinion. It ain't like I'm not gonna watch it, haha. I just feel bad for all the other guys in the division toughing it out in UFC for as long as they have been. Although I'm sure Henderson could probably easily take all of the top 5 contenders. Whatever, I ain't getting paid to run it, so I don't care. Let em fight.


sure hope so

i highly doubt that BJ will be beaten by pulver. this time BJ is actually going to go into a fight in great condition as opposed to his last fight against hughes. The fact that BJ almost submitted hughes and has gone toe to toe with hughes and great fighters in the 170 division is going to mean more against pulver. BJ will be fighting around 165-170 by the time of the fight and pulver will be at 160 tops. Pulver also hasn't looked all that good in a while. His fights in japan were underwhelming to say the least

Jens looked better in defense than he did on his feet. I love watching BJ fight.
Stupid dislocated shoulders. Damn. Recurring injuries like that, I might keep quiet. Tough kid.

weird night.
Editting to get in all those commercial made for choppy tv.

Imagine that?
BJ and Jens don't really hate each other?
We don't need story boards; we just need good matchups.

ps. bjpenn.com is not available to me..perhaps lots of traffic

I will not be going to bjpenn.com. what a fag. really wanted jens to win, but I guess it just wasn't meant to be. oh well.



what a weird night though. never seen so many weird endings to fights in one night. I was waiting for chuck liddell to run into the ring during the pulver/penn fight with a metal folding chair and start beating both of them.

haha word. The first thing I thought when BJ Penn said that was "fuckkkk you and your website. You can't give a 3 minute interview?" I was pretty positive he'd win, but oh well.

I am pretty angry about the dislocated shoulder, Manny was winning that fight if he didn't get caught in a submission. That, and I hate the Diaz brothers. Those are the kind of people you want to beat to death with a metal folding chair.

Maynard was pretty funny too - "I wasn't knocked out, I rolled off him!" Yea okay buddy, as you see his limp body eyes all rolled back in his head, arm hanging awkwardly across his body. Nice try.

**** BJ. The sad thing is that Pulver is a natural 145pounder whereas most 155ers cut down to 155, meaning there is routinely a weight difference of at least 10pounds which is huge at a weight that low. If the UFC is not going to bring in the 145ers I guess Jens should get a shot at Urijah Faber in the WEC.

I don't think we'll see a 145 pound class very soon, if ever. now, if lightweight takes off like it seems to be doing (and I hope it does) then who knows. I think a lot of people are gonna be paying attention to the WEC now that never would have even heard about it because of Pulver, and if that is a success, I'm sure Dana might take notice. I for one would love to see it. I'm also one that wants them to televise every single fight of the evening too, so you could say I want it all, so who knows. But as of now, I wouldn't get your hopes up of seeing 145 in UFC. We'll hope though.

predictions for this weekend? any upsets? discuss

No predictions...but I hope Rashad gets bitch slapped. Should be an awesome fight.

i think he will, Tito will be strong and in top shape

anybody placing any bets this weekend?

I'm actually rooting for Rashad. I don't actually like him, but I like Tito less, and I want to see Rashad get his shot at the title. I can see the UFC Title now:


UFC78... Black on Black Crime



I'd watch it.

Local bar of ours is hosting a UFC/Casino night tomorrow. $5 at the door for chips, blackjack, roulette, craps, poker (so they say) and raffles. Plus they will have the UFC fights on all the TV's. I like the sound of this very much...

I don't see tito winning the fight against Rashad. He's on his way down and has looked vulnerable in his last few fights that weren't against Ken Shamrock. I do think that Sherk will beat Franca, but, I do think that one has the possibility of being an upset

I have 2 bets, Ortiz -110 and Silva -150. Normally I like to bet underdogs with value, nothing sticking out to me right now. I hate Ortiz, but I think this is a big step up in class for Evans, we'll see how he handles it. I am having 2nd thoughts on Silva, I don't like laying juice against a good ground fighter but what the hell -- here are my bookie's current odds for anyone interested

UFC 73 - Stacked - Matchups July 7, 2007
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Nate Marquardt vs. Anderson Silva
501 Nate Marquardt +120
502 Anderson Silva -145
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Alvin Robinson vs. Kenny Florian
503 Alvin Robinson +220
504 Kenny Florian -280
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz
505 Rashad Evans +100
506 Tito Ortiz -125
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Hermes Franca vs. Sean Sherk
507 Hermes Franca +200
508 Sean Sherk -250
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Heath Herring vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
509 Heath Herring +550
510 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira -800
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Mike Nickels vs. Stephan Bonnar
511 Mike Nickels +400
512 Stephan Bonnar -500
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Diego Saraiva vs. Jorge Gurgel
513 Diego Saraiva +190
514 Jorge Gurgel -230
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Chris Lytle vs. Jason Gilliam
515 Chris Lytle -460
516 Jason Gilliam +380
7/7/2007 5:00 PM Mark Bocek vs. Frank Edgar
517 Mark Bocek +165
518 Frank Edgar -195



lol at anyone who lays -800 on Nogueira, with all the upsets lately...I got a good deal on Ortiz, a slightly bad one on Silva -- we'll see...

you made a bad bet on silva IMO. Marquardt is the much better fighter and is great value at that line. I also would've bet evans too, I have serious doubts as to whether or not tito will win that fight

Silva was -165 at Bodog when I made that bet -- nothing but impressed with his game -- you are right the money is coming in Marquardt's direction, I'll be sweating this one for sure -- if Tito loses this fight he is likely done at UFC, lots of pressure on him and am banking on his A game. GL all

I bet 600 on marquardt getting +150 (it was at +170 yesterday).

I bet 240 on Ortiz, cuz I like the guy, but I probably shouldnt have even bet, he's -115....and so was evans.

I bet 300 on Franca getting +220, I think that's legit value after seeing franca knee the **** out of that other dude when he had the green hair, then tap him out with an arm bar... I still think sherk is a slight fav though.

I reeeeally wanted to bet the nogueria vs herring fight...noguera's first fight in ufc, but he's good... as far as I've seen casino's lay sick odds on whoever has an 0-0 record.


I think I can afford to lose the Ortiz fight and another one as long as one of the dog's wins their fight, which usually happens in UFc...they should all be good fights regardless though.

I'm so pumped.

Keep you NBA finals, SuperBowls (most of them), and World Series.

Will this break PPV records?

For kicks:

Franca comes close a couple of times with subs, but Sherk is too mcuh for him and beats him down

Tito's head is elsewhere (I'm guessing) but he still holds on to take Evans is a decision.

Nog makes Herring look horrrorrrible

Marquardt (sp) gets caught Muay Tai style. Otherwise, he wins via decision, if it goes past 3 rinds, imo.


*** Crazy Prediction: ****

there will be controversy.

i really like the marquardt and franca bets, especially the money you put on marquardt. getting him at +170 would've been better, but you are getting better odds then you would've if you bet at bodog. Franca is great value too at +220. I don't like tito at -115, it all depends on what you were getting on evans, because there is a possibility of you being able to arbitrage it if the odds were right by betting both sides

who won?

Minotauro by decision despite almost getting KTFO
Sherk by dominant decision
Tito and Evans draw
Silva over Marquart by TKO rd 1

anyone think it lived up to the hype? close?

Heath was fat. Not the same animal I've seen in Pride
He had the energy to defend prety well.

Neither fighter wa at their best, for sure.

Tito v Evans draw?? wtf?

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Ooops.

I said it was based on the value of the bets. I didn't actually think that Franca was going to win most of the time, but getting +220 on him was great value, and he proved that by coming very close to choking sherk out in the first minute. marquardt was good value at +150 also. Marquadt just didn't show up though. He was nowhere close to what I've seen from him in the past.

you did a pretty poor job interpreting my post, because that post was purely based on betting value.

tito kept grabbing the fence and screwed himself out of a win because of it. The second round turned into a 9-9 round as opposed to the 10-9 it would've been had tito not gotten a point deducted

Franca didn't prove anything except he could get completely worked over at his own game for 25 minutes straight. That one big knee that stunned Sherk was his only chance and he didn't do anything with it. After watching that fight you would have to be crazy to say +220 is good value.

Marq MAY have been a good value at +150, but again, having seen what you did, was it? Not really.

I don't think I did a very poor job interpreting your post, you were way off.

lol, such results oriented thinking. I mean shit, if I was to know the results of teh fights before putting in the bet then I'd be rich. Franca proved in the first minute and with a few of the knee shots that the +220 was worth it because of the near submission he had and the possibility of him KOing Sherk. the +220 puts him at about a 4-1 disadvantage, which sounds pretty spot on to me.

In the marquardt fight, they were stood up a bit too fast IMO. Who knows how much of a difference that would've made, but it most likely would've resulted in them getting to the second round.

Determining the value of bets after fights is so ridiculous that its laughable

WTF was with Herring not going for the kill there in the first??? Then He let the guy totyally recover by just standing there for the first 2 minutes of round 2. Overall it was a pretty boring event with Evans showing very little and Sherk just putting on a clinic on ground control for 25 minutes. I had all the winners except Evans who looks like he should move down a division.

Sherk is probably the strongest man in the 155 lb. division. He embarrassed Franca, even though Sherk almost got KTFO.

Silva looks like he could hold the belt for a hell of a long time.

I thought Rashad Evans should have won that fight. Tito took him down a couple times in the 2nd round, but Evans was the one doing damage from down there. Give Tito the first, Rashad the 2nd and 3rd.

I agree with this too. I also really don't understand why they are having Dan Henderson in teh LHW division either when he'd be perfect for the middleweight division

For the first time in a long time I believe that the decsions were right on this weekend.

Heath Herring is still a jopke, he looked horrible in his first UFC apperence and he backed that up on staurday

Sean Sherk was absollutely dominating against hermes franca, and that is impressive, I believe that the only person who couuld take him down at 155 is BJ Penn but he said he is going back to 170

Anderson Silva again very impressive

Rashad looked outclassed early in the fight and Tito didn't take advantage of that

after that ufc, I am officially a sean sherk fan. watching his ground game was nothing short of amazing. popping up from guard to side guard to side control to mount in like 3 seconds? and in the THIRD ROUND?? might not have been exciting to people that only watch it for the stand up, but that was just awesome for me. not to mention getting kneed in the face 3 times and not being fazed and getting out of what, 3 different chokes? the guy is just plain impressive. 155 pounders better step up their game.

sean sherk has been a great fighter on his feet and on the ground for a while. But just recently he has gotten huge. he is an animal now for 155. I still say only BJ Penn can stop him

yeah I didn't know anything about him until his fight with kenny florian, and honestly, in that fight I didn't find him all that impressive. but after this last one, well, he's done something different. and it worked. I don't even know if BJ could beat him at 155, at least not handily. would definitely be a good fight though.

http://www.nbcsports.com/ufc/1798504/detail.html


Franca & Sherk were on some juice

disappointing, but not at all surprising really. I mean look at sherk. there is no WAY that guy isn't on the roids. and to be quite honest, I doubt there are many top UFC fighters that aren't on some kind of steroids; the rest just know how long to stop doing it before they're tested. oh well, guess lightweight's up in the air again. who the hell else, other than the reality show guys, is in that division thats any good?

ok I think this is the longest its been without a ppv in about 2 years. going through withdrawals.



quick, somebody post a video of a hobo being beaten.

I was just saying that as we were watching Bodog fight last night. It's good, but not the real thing. And...



Where the fuck is Wanderlei Silva ? It is so disappointing what Zufa has done to Pride.

I hear hes fighting in the UFC in December 07

Pride is gone

Worst move ever imo. Bodog fight has hot chicks in bikini's every comercial break, which makes it hard to turn off.

<Bodog girls

there's no point in having a PRIDE brand if they can't secure a good sized TV contract in Japan. The reason PRIDE was able to do what they did was because of a huge deal with the Fuji Network. In Japan, TV is what's important as PPV isn't what it is in this country

He came into that fight with a serious injury.