haha - only if he ate the guys shorts after the fight ended. Woops..just threw up a little in my mouth.

Just watched Kimbo beat Tank.

How good is Kimbo? I imagine he's among the most devastating strikers around, but would he be totally lost in the ground game?

depends how much he learned from Bas Rutten, with whom he was and may still be training,


I see I should shop lines. Well, I don't bet high stakes anyway, I'll keep it simple at Bodog.

You see the MMA props they got going? First time I have ever seen them.

I like the last longer bet Canseco/Saikahema -300 vs Kimbo/Thompson.

I agree with the above lines on Alves and Davis. Someone obviously knows something we don't about the Vera fight. That is the largest jump I think I have ever seen for a fight. It seemed like it came out of nowhere as that line has been up for quite some time now.

So what is on this weekend at what time on what channel? I can't keep track of it all...Gotta set the Tivo.

pulver/faber sunday at 9 eastern on versus. BE THERE.

And the Elite XC (Kimbo) is on CBS, i believe, at 9 p.m. eastern Saturday night.

i tried really really hard to watch this last night on the fight network. i gotta say, i haven't seen anybody really impress me yet. Its really rare for me to turn off a fight, but i thought the whole kimbo/abbott thing was ridiculous. The fact that kimbo is their "poster boy" is truly sad to say the least

He isn't really the poster boy as much as he is the most marketable name and therefore the main attraction of their cards. They have some good fighters on the roster.

I was reasonably impressed with their roster of fighters.

Hey, if Kimbo can beat the living hell out of other people, who says he shouldn't be champ. He's not a traditional MMA fighter, but damn i wouldn't want to get hit by him.

That's why i asked earlier how good he is. I really respect the opinions in here and want to learn as much as I can about this stuff.




No opinions on Faber/Pulver?

Because the people he's beating are virtually worthless wins. Tank Abbott is a 9-14 career fighter 15 years past his prime.
I think Kimbo can be dangerous. He can obviously throw but I'm not sure he can stay standing with a real talented fighter. I would like to think only time will tell, but I see no forseeable future for them throwing him a real good opponent.

I think Urijah might come out and overwhelm Pulver, but I like Jens in the middle rounds. He might not be able to go five with Faber.
I feel like I'm just trying to find a way for a fighter I like to beat a better fights, WAR PULVER

Oh, i'm not saying Kimbo should be champ yet, but I'm saying if he can use his style, work up the ladder and beat the champ, then great, he's earned it.

I like Alves in this fight and I'm not too sure why the line is what it is. He can tool Hughes standing and can hold his own off his back. He's also shown good takedown defense as of late and his confidence should be sky high right now.

I like Swick at this line. Davis has looked good lately, but he hasn't beaten anyone that is even considered a contender. Swick looked bad in his last fight, but I think that was just an off night, because he usually does not fight like that. I expect Swick to keep his range and score with kicks from the outside and work from the clinch on the inside and probably get some takedowns too, because he has the better ground game than Davis. I just don't see davis winning this fight, because I see Swick being too elusive for him to catch clean.

Does anyone have Time Warner Cable as their cable tv provider? Do you know if they have the channel for the Pulver-Faber fight? Thanks.

Google says channel 267 for Versus.

my un-researched opinion says Faber is a good bet @ -350
He's too strong for Pulver and too good on the ground.

I think he'll fight smart and avoid Pulvers only chance - a knock out.

Found it. Thanks a lot man, really appreciate the help.

Wow. I hadn't watched Faber fight and damn I think I've been missing out. I just watched the Curran fight and his reversal in the first round was simply amazing.

I guess I need to come in here more frequently.

Tonight I'm on Baroni, Lawler, and Murphy. Should be a fun card to watch.

It's like MMA weekend, Spike is marthanoning the entire current season of TUF.

I've been Tivo'ing Fightnetword cards from the past...really some great stuff.

in the last couple days I've watched Shamrock/Le, Stout/Fisher II, Shamrock/Gracie, Cage Rage...some of them are a couple years old, but i'm learning a lot.

The Shamrock/Le fight was great.

I'm shocked at the relative lack of interst this sport has.
No one at my work cares about it. WWE is more popular. Basektball is more popular.

Why is this only for the 13-25 year olds?

Is it lack of understanding?

Surely it'll blow up eventually.

In my experiences, I think alot of people still see the sport as it was in the early UFC days (street fighting w/ basically no rules). Almost every person I've "introduced" to it these days have ended up enjoying it. Even my wife, who initially didn't like the brutality of it, has started to watch TUF with me when I watch it. I think it'll take some time, but it will start becoming more and more popular as time goes on. I think the addition of mainstream sponsorship that the UFC has recently attracted is another sign of the direction it's heading.

Edit: The 2 "sports" you used as an example have also been around for WAAAAAAY longer and already have a bigger fanbase than MMA, also.

Appreciate it, but I'm 42.

I used to have an illegal Direct TV dish (no such thing in Canada) that was hacked for all the channels. So i was watching some of the real early UFC cards, back in '95-'98...

I kind of lost touch with things until about two years ago, when i caught a bit of TUF..Rashad Evans winning his title fight. Been getting back into it since.

I think it is catching on quite rapidly though. Just about every pub in town now puts out big billboards advertising the next event when 2 years agon maybe3 or 4 in town showed the event. The WWE used to be big for the pubs now alot of pub owners dont even bother getting the ppv's.It will never be as big as basketball but it might get as big as wrestling was 5 years ago.

yeah, I know you're ancient.
That's why it was addressed to your baby boomer generation. It's good to see you supporting the youth.

damn lurkers

UFC ultimate KO on now then elitexc on cbs. good mma tv night

Wow...lawlor/smith through two rounds...what a standup battle.

stopped? holy crap, he looks fine.

wow..those are two big, strong men. Kimbo's showing a decent guard, holding his own grappling.

Total BS. That ref was coddeling Kimbo the whole fight.

I was suprised. Give him a few more months of training and some more conditioning and he'll be unstoppable.

Kimbo got his ass handed to him, but what was that ear all about???? Great punches, ground game was better than I expected, but Kimbo was totally gassed.

[x] not watching EliteXC shit again. Kimbo ate 2 minutes of crucifix hammering and not shit, the ref actually said do something or I stand you up. What??? Then they stop it? That wasn't a flash knockout because his legs were locked. I'm so disappointed.

They were both gassed. I thought the first round was even. Second round was really close cause Kimbo landed bombs early then thompson won on the ground...

I don't think I've ever seen a man's ear assplode before.

Kimbo humble in the post fight interview: "I've still got a lot to learn."

I like him.

all the other EXC events i've seen had the UFC refs...never seen this guy before. I wonder why the change.

The Lawler-Smith fight was great. Damn shame about the ending. Gina looked good with her hair down. (Prefight pics). Nice thighs too. Glad it was free though.

I think I have seen him doing some prelims for the UFC before nothing close to a main event though.

Hmm, like i said earlier, i've been watching old Elite events...Herb, Mario and Mazzagatti have always done them. Don't remember if i've seen Big John.

fwiw, i agree..

the lawler/smith fight was vgood, unfortunate about the ending, i will likely watch a rematch

kimbo got ROCKED imo, eventhough he had him in trouble a couple times, bullshit that they stopped it like they did

It just seemed like they were there for Kimbo to win. The guy ate two minutes of elbows and they won't stop it. He wasn't rocked? How come he couldn't stand up after the second? He shouldn't have eaten that much, it's the refs fault. Thompson was no where close to out there.

Am I the only one outraged by the way that fight went?

I recorded it and just finished watching, but the last fight was cut out so I didn't see it. That Smith/lawler fight was great, horrible stoppage I think. The ladies put on a good show, and the first two fights were fun quick KO's, not a bad card even without getting to see the main event.

Whoever mentioned they were taking Baroni tonight should have checked out his last few fights, he hasn't been faring well. I can't remember the last i guy I saw him fight a couple months back but he got embarrassed.

Plus villasenor has looked good on the last two undercards. dude can hit

That's a crap stopage. If it's about protecting the fighters, the fight should have been stopped when Kimbo ate elbows and hammer fists for 2+ minutes the previous round. The guy did look like he was about to go, but he looked like that earlier in the previous round as well and got a desperation takedown and proceeded to g&p. Now, of it's about protecting their 6-7 figure investment, well, the stoppage makes sense.

Bad result for the 2 showstopper fights for EliteXC. That did not look good, and was reminiscent of boxing.

I'm sure Bodogg and MMAjunkie are full of idiots blowing up now about fix and bs and all sorts of stuf clowns go on about.

Apparently Scott should learn to not say "I can't see" 2x to the Doctor. True you get 5 min to recover; but I'm going to assume the commisssion understands the rules and not being able to see might be sufficint to call the fight, regardless of recovery time.

I've always liked Kimbo, as stated earlier. Thompson should learn to actually throw a fight ending blow while having someone pinned against the fence. I'm ok with the stoppage. I slowed it down on DVR several times and his eyes and lack of defending and wobbly legs looked sufficint to stop.

gotta give Thompson credit for having a helluva chin. he took a monstrous shot on the chin that would have KO'd most people, that's when the ref stepped in. I think the ref anticipated the KO rather than waiting for it.

I honestly think long term MMA fans will not be as outraged as some here are.

Kimbo as exhausted after round two. But do you really think he was getting hit hard?

It reminded me of Florian v Lauzon. Many thought that was called early. I disagreed; but actually think Florian was in a more clearly dominate pos. Except for 20 secs much of the blows were deflected and 90% were weak.

And wtf was that switching to a shot from the back row of the building for a few seconds in the second round???

I didn't think kimbo ate many shots at the end of the second..a lot of glancing blows or deflected off his hands.