that was truly complete dominance

i really didn't think it would be that one-sided

Oops.

That wasn't even close.

GSP >> Serra (no need to hide that one)

If it wasn't there it woulda been rd3 - serra was just outclassed.

2/3 with my entrance song theory. Still pretty good

This was a very close one, and maybe I went the wrong way on song judgement, so I stick by my theory.

That's fine if that would've been the case...but stopping it there was pretty weak, imo. Where's Big John at?

most stoppages in the UFC are weak tbh

It was only based on my song theory.

Prior to that I actually favored GSP.

Should've gone with my first instinct i guess. Damn rocky nostalgia tricked me.

Well GSP definately frustrated Serra by continually taking him down. Good fight by GSP. I wish that weak-ass stoppage didn't happen w/ 10 seconds left in the round so we could've seen more, but time for the RUBBER MATCH!!

No need for rubber match, imo. Serra was outclassed by far there - got lucky the first time around. Let Serra fight his way back to the top.

LOL. Yeah, ok. GSP looked totally outclassed in the 1st fight, so going off your logic, GSP should've had to work his way back up to.

Absolutely. -oh- GSP did win a fight since the first one you say? Oh. Or two in fact?

Ok.

Anyone watching these after fights?

Another BS stoppage.... even though it might've ended a few seconds later, still a bad stoppage.

What a weak stoppage.

Serra/Hughes and GSP/Fitch?

Also, I really don't like Franklin. I would have popped huge if Lutter locked that arm. Once Silva destroys Okami and Franklin wins another (Marquaradt? Same type of fight as tonight) the UFC(Franklin nuthuggers) will give him another title shot.

I didnt hear Serra complain about the stoppage. The guy took 3(the 4th one whiffed) straight on knees to the rib cage and couldnt or wouldnt do anyithing to defend himself. Total dominance by GSP, I dont see him losing for a long time.

Starnes should be fired.

Bocek hung in there pretty tough.

Bisbing will get destroyed By Silva.

Unanimous at my house that Franklin's escape was the sickest looking in a very very long time. If you were watching the introductions I think he dislocated each shoulder just to prepare for having to do that. Seriously, go watch it....he does these sick shoulder shrugs.

Everyone that came wanted to bet Lutter and Serra so I played house for a night. Drinks on me.

Agree 100% although I missed the Bocek fight.

I'm not real sure why people are going ape shit over Franklin. Very nice escape but Lutter never had his wrist locked for control.

That was the first UFC or MMA event I've ever watched ans it was awesome. I watched it at one of the big sports bar in downtown Montreal, the place was packed. I got there at 5:20 and waited an hour to get it because of the afternoon boxing match, hockey game and then the fight. The place was nuts during the fight. There are lots of fans in Quebec and there was a lot of hype over this so I had to see it and I'm glad I did. We're proud to have hosted the 1st Canadian UFC and biggest UFC match.

The sport is very well presented and I loved how respectful and well spoken the fighters are, very classy people, great stuff.

GG UFC and GG MONTREAL!

I loved how Montreal turned on Starnes and cheered on Quarry in the end. Very classy IMO

OMG and thn he used the rocky quote ; "I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change."

that had me rolling.

on that Serra stoppage, it would not surprise me if Serra (or his corner) tell the ref "I won't tap - ever. You do what you gotta do" When a fighter is not going to tap (He's never tapped out in the UFC), the ref may feel his role is more significant to protect the fighter
Or maybe the fact Serra had no answer for repeated knees to the ribs.
I would have liked to see it go a bit longer, obv.

I'm impressed how St Pierre keeps beating people at their game: Kos wrestling, Hughes wrestling and then arm bar (to avenge his loss to Matt via armbar) and then dominating Serra on the ground.

Seeing the Sub of the night, damn, I gotta see that entire Maia fight. I hardly know him. Wonder why J.G. was shown instead.

imo, Bisping made one mistake - acting like an Ass after the Hamill fight. Last two times, very classy. Compared to boxing, for example, this sport is top class.

Nate Quarry embarrased Kalib - well Kalib embarrassed Kalib. Quarry overwhelmed early with speed and muay tai strikes. I loved the move at the end with the elephant trunk boxing.

I went 5 for 7 and had a 16%+ ROI.

Fight of the Night was the Bocek-Danzig fight, it was an absolute war and Bocek showed a ton of heart. He just looked very small in there and Mac ended up getting in the good positions out of all the scrambles. I have no idea how he was able to eat those knees flush and survive.

No idea what McCarthy was thinking just standing there and covering up without mounting any kind of offense other than the 1 takedown. He did have the armbar locked in deep, but Bisping was able to escape.

I don't know what the heck happened to Starnes out there. To me it seems like he doesn't even want to fight anymore. That was the way it looked out there when he basically refused to engage and just ran away the entire fight. He didn't even go for a takedown either. It didn't even look like he wanted to win the fight, it seemed he was just trying to avoid getting hurt and collect a paycheck. Very disappointing performance and it looks like he'll be getting dropped from the UFC.

Lutter just simply gassed out, I'm shocked it took Franklin that long to finish him. Lutter needs to do something about his conditioning though, he looked dead right after the 2nd round began. The armbar didn't look to be applied properly initially, it looked like he needed to adjust his grip, which allowed Franklin to escape. I can't say for sure though, because I didn't get that good a view, I'd need to see a replay to say for sure.

GSP-Serra wasn't a great surprise and I had a feeling GSP would not stand with him. I'm surprised Serra was not able to do anything off his back. I think his legs are just too short to get good control of someone like GSP. GSP basically played it safe and maintained control of his positions and just grinded Serra out and would punish Serra every time he tried to escape and get back to his feet. The bigger man usually controls the scrambles and that's what happened in this fight. GSP was simply too big for Serra. I definitely have to say that GSP adopting this takedown style is going to make him very tough to beat. You're going to need someone with a very dangerous guard to get it done. BJ certainly stands a great chance, as would Anderson Silva and I think someone like Diego Sanchez might give GSP a good fight as well. I don't see Jon Fitch being much of a threat because GSP simply does everything better. I think the stoppage was ok, Serra really mounted zero offense. After seeing the fight again, it seems like he could have probably continued, but I think the result would have been the same regardless.

Overall, it was an ok, but not great card. UFC 84 should make up for it though.

I thought his actions towards Hamill on TUF 3 were pretty damn classless.

I thought Hamill was annoying. But what was Bisping doing that you recall?

And remember, boys are boys and break balls. Hamill can handle himself. He's deaf not retarded.

Remember when Hamill did his 'WHOO'. I remember they were at the table and Hamill did it and they showed in the interviews Hamill said he thinks Bisping doesn't like it just cause one time he woke him up with it but Hamill says he's just trying to have fun. i remember hamill walks in and does it and Bisping waits until Hamill passes and can't tell he's saying anything and goes 'f*ckin d*ck.' Just a classless move to me.

see, Matt was annoying.

Not a super card. I expected more.

I was pulling for Lutter, but seeing him gas midway through the first for the second consecutive fight made me lose all respect for him. Two fights in a row and you can't get in shape and cost yourself a career? Really? Even though Franklin is a Jesus freak, I'm now a fan. That armbar escape was sick.

GSP stoppage seemed premature in real time, but after replay, seemed ok. Serra had no problem with it.

rest was just me. Guy from FL stuck his tongue out twice, so instead of wanting my homeboy to win, I hoped he'd lose and he did. (McCarthy)

to be fair matt hammil was just as much of an asshole as he was if not more. just because someone has a disability doesn't give them the right to piss on everybody else.


I'm not sure how nate was supposed to finish kalib when he had to spend the entire fight chasing him. you can't really fight like that. I hope kalib never fights in any mma ever again. he doesn't deserve to be in the ring. although i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to anyways.


what the hell do you people want in a stoppage? all I ever hear at every single freaking ufc is "weak stoppage" or "stopped way to early." should we just wait until one of them dies? would that be better? when a fighter is getting completely dominated and then completely quits defending himself, you stop the fight. this isn't fucking bloodsport.


that was the funniest thing I've ever seen in a match. and I mean, he did it for a WHILE, not just a second, and kalib STILL didn't try anything. what the hell.


like I said above, hamill wasn't any sweetheart either. very few fighters in the ufc are actually "nice" guys (gsp, anderson silva, maybe franklin) when it comes down to it, and you really shouldn't expect them to be. I like bisbing because he's got talent, but mainly because he seems to have a really strong work ethic, for the most part, and I like that. the only fighter I don't like because he's a jerk is matt hughs. he just takes it too far.

I was really disappointed in Travis.... Big time! His gym is right down the street and he really talked it up big that he was in shape and ready this time...unlike the last time when he didn't make weight. There's going to be a lot of people disappointed in him when he gets back to the gym. Not that I would say anything negative to him...I mean... he could kick my arse in about 4 seconds but I'm not gonna be like some of the guys in there and kiss his ass and tell him how awesome he is when he fought like that. I mean.... he could barely breath in the 2nd round.
And before you chime in with how hard it is and "you don't know"... I DO know cuz I've competed in TKD and MMA for years. I'm nowhere near his caliber but I've never passed out in the 2nd from lack of oxygen.

I hate Rich Franklin too but he was right when he poked at Travis about his conditioning.
Franklin aint ever gonna beat Silva...... never.

The GSP fight went just like it should have gone the first time. I have no doubt that Yankee Serra will take another fight with GSP cuz he just got married and could use the big bucks but he'll get his arse kicked again.

Who's gonna win between Rampage Jackson and Big Ears?
My money is on Jackson.

Rampage. I feel bad for Griffin, he just isn't world class. I guess he is getting his one big pay day, but Rampage is going to be a monster favorite I think.

Nate Quarry Is officially my new hero. had the be the best ending to a fight ever. and rightfully so, Kalib was a disgrace to canadians, looked like he just wanted a quick pay check.

and of course, St Pierre with total domination.

i'm looking for ward to watching Penn dominate the 155 devision and then returning to 170. hopefully.

Huh? GSP said that was 1/2 of his gameplan. Stand, take down, stand, take down, stand, etc. to wear Serra down which is exactly what he did. If you mean straight box/muay thai then yeah, he didn't "stand" with him.



I believe the official title is "Polish" boxing.

Serra stoppage was far from early. Protecting the fighters should be the top priority of the ref. There was no way Serra was turning that position around and he was going to continue to eat bombs.

Bisping was impressive at 185, but he was also fighting as close to a can that the UFC has. I want to see him get thrown a monster and try to head butt said monster at the weigh ins like he does everyone else. He just needs a solid smack down to put his ego back where it needs to be. Here's a tip Bisping: watch the weigh ins....you are the only stupid **** doing shit like that. Grow up.

Above I said Franklin's escape "looked" incredible because it did. Yeah, Lutter didn't have it locked down, but that doesn't take away from the "look" of the escape.

Starnes obv won't be fighting in the UFC again. There really doesn't need to be any discussion about it. However, I would love to hear the reasoning behind his antics. I am disgusted I put money on him. He pulled a TUF instead of fighting like he did in his last 3 fights.

I know they have us over a barrel, but it sure would be nice to get more than 58:41 worth of fights in a 180:00 minute broadcast. Putting guys like Starnes and McCarthy on the PPV instead of guys who have proven to give you 110% like Clementi/Stout and Goulet/Hironaka (obv televised anyway) is disgusting.

Gambling wise it was my best ROI to date. Bocek had me a wee bit worried as my largest play was on Danzig. I breathed a sigh of relief at the end of the first round though...Bocek just looked gassed and mentally deflated. I would have tripled my bet if I could have.

I still cant belive all the people who think the GSP fight was stopped to soon. This is real not wrestling, a 180 lb man who is one of the most physically fit and strongest in the world was full on kneeing another man in the rib cage uncontested. Wait for a broken rib to puncture his lung?


Was Rogan not allowed into Canada? Florian did okay but I missed Joe.

I think Forrest has a decent shot against Rampage and would bet him +200 or more.

He didn't stand with Serra at all, he was looking to take him down every chance he got. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gameplan, but it was obvious he didn't want to stand and trade with Serra after what happened the first time. I think he knew that he could take Serra down easily and that he would be able to control position with his strength. He has fought pretty much the same way against everyone since losing to Serra. He's been taking a much safer approach since getting knocked out, but he did what he needed to do out there and got the job done.

I just watched it again (on the ppv all day replay) and 10 seconds before it actually does get stopped, the commentator says "Yves Lavigne right on top of the action" implying that he was (and should have been) ready to stop what had turned in to a full on beating before Serra got hurt.

The last 4 knee strikes were not defended - Serra's left arm was limp at his side. Good stoppage imo.

If BJ moved back up I think it would be to finish things off with Hughes.




-He wasn't eating anything, he was getting kneed, and with 10 seconds left in the round I think if his body took 30 it could take 2 more.
-Agree with the fight selection. Although they invested a lot in Bisping giving him the ME against Evans so I figured they wouldn't preshow him. Starnes/Quarry and Danzing/Bocek were not as interesting to me as Celementi/Stout



Rogan just had some family thing he claimed on his blog and Forrest is +200 so shoot, I'm on Rampage, though.

BJ wants to fight Hughes and GSP again. GSP is the fight that he really wants, because he sees him as the fighter that would give him his best challenge.

that's a funny statement

Didn't BJ and Dana mutually agree BJ was going to clean out 155 before getting another shot at Hughes or GSP? Thought I remember them talking about it. I don't see how the UFC lets Hughes retire without fighting BJ again and I would be surprised if Hughes fights anyone besides BJ after Serra.

Do they make the scores up to that point in a fight public anywhere? From my seat it looked like GSP would be ahead 20-16 at the end of 2.

Well after he beats Sherk and probably the winner of Ken Flo/Huerta if that fight happens, then I think he will have cleaned out the division pretty much, at least top contender wise. Regardless, BJ won't be staying at 155 very long, because he wants to avenge his losses.

I read somewhere on MMAjunkie or yahoo (too lazy to look it back up) that two judges had it 10-8 in the first and since it ended in the 2nd no scores were turned in.

wish they had time to show Maia v Herman, Herman didn't "tap like a bitch" at least

i'm actually getting excited about the MW divsion.
Quite a bit unresolved there. Well, except for the top spot. Althogu I don't see him as invincible as others. More a lack of competition. THen again, how much of that is Silva making the competition look bad

I meant eating as in his mouth. Sure, he was getting hit. I only caught it once at Hooters so I could be wrong, but it looked like Serra was content taking those shots and his other arm was protecting his head and not 'limp' as someone said. If it was 'limp' and he was out, then good stoppage, but I don't recall it that way.



MW could be OK, I would like to see Hendo/Franklin if Hendo stays at 85

no, you're not, I'm a fan of his to be honest




like shake said, Hammil was far from a choir boy on the show and quite frankly was a pure jackass. He would overdo it consistently in training and was insanely arrogant. Me thinks you have a short memory




I certainly haven't, and to be quite honest, I agree with it. Starnes didn't try to fight at all, and I'm glad that the judges used the 10-8 round more often this PPV






wrong, that was a perfectly fine stoppage, what was serra defending and he was taking some nasty shots to his kidneys




um, you realize the ridiculousness of saying he wasn't eating anything while taking knees to the kidneys. I wouldn't be surprised if Serra was pissing blood today



wrong, a rubber match would do massive business especially if UFC gets clearance in NYC to do a MSG show






meh, there's a lot of unresolved stuff that doesn't involve Silva, but I have no doubt that he'll be a very dominant champ for a while




as far as last night, if GSP keeps this up, I have no doubt that we'll see a win streak from him like Wanderlei Silva put together in PRIDE a few years back when he went 48 months undefeated

St-Pierre is damn good, but I don't think such a winning streak, which now that I think about it is very possible, would compare to Wandy's. Silva had amazing wins in that time with Sakuraba three times, Rampage twice, Hendo, Mezger, Yoshida and Minowa, that was insane. I think GSP would be Hughes (what does that mean now?), and maybe BJ mixed in, but I wouldn't put Fitch Alves and Serra are at the level of the ones Silva beat.

BTW, anyone else on the Tito train next month?

If by "Tito Train" you mean "placed a bet against him" then yes.

All the props to him for his past dedication and hs past camps and coaching
I won't mis him.

I am looking more forward to this card than anything in the whole wide world though

Ken Flo did great, imo

I bet him and will root for him. I like Machida but feel Tito has always gotten the screws from Dana. And I also can't wait for 84, and will probably bet Tito and Silva.


Why can't Sokodjou/Nakamura be main card? Not a Soko fan but would like to see this fight.

Florian did an alright job, but I prefer Rogan's enthusiasm.

I'm not interested in seeing Serra/GSP 3, if that was the main event of a card I don't think I would order it without an amazing undercard.

What Poker stakes/game do you play?