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No_Neck
Seat 1 : No_Neck has $38.29
Seat 5 : steve784 has $35.53

7 handed. smile.gif

Le-Roy is the dealer.
vinstayl posted small blind.
No_Neck posted big blind.

Seat 1 : No_Neck has Ad Ac
2 folds, steve784 called $0.50, 2 folds , vinstayl called $0.25, No_Neck raised $2, steve784 called $2 and Vinstay folds.

Dealing flop.
Board cards [6 icon_suit_heart.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif ] Pot is $5.50
No_Neck bet $5, steve784 called $5,

Dealing turn.
Board cards [6 icon_suit_heart.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_club.gif ] pot is $15.50
No_Neck bets....?

Villian is a 31.88/2/1.5 after 70 hands
petersun
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Monday, February 5th, 2007, 12:18 PM) *
Villian is a 31.88/2/1.5 after 70 hands


9 Handed or 6 Handed?

Edit: Stupid question, you were at least 7 handed (if I read the action more carefully, I'd know). Ignore me.
petersun
I'd bet $9. Wrong for a drawing hand like 87 to call, but small enough that 9 10 or a weak jack might call. It also keeps the pot small so you can get away from the hand if he has you beat or if he beats you on the river.
DonkSlayer
You should really avoid having to play AA out of position.












sw. Raise a little more preflop to better define the hand he's got.
Sea Wasp
You could not have asked for a worse board against a station with your hand and being OOP sucks here. You need to bet the turn because he is drawing as often as he has you beat so giving a free card is not a good idea. I like a bet of around $10 here and i will be check calling the river if called. I think you will be losing this pot as often as you are going to win it so i would of course be proceeding with cuation and folding to any raise.
krup24
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Monday, February 5th, 2007, 4:26 PM) *
Raise a little more preflop to better define the hand he's got.


let's not give away are hand and villian is a station so you really can't define his hands

i pot the turn and would probably call a push from a station
No_Neck
does anyone overbet the pot here? or is our hand to weak?
TwoFourOffsuit
I'd have him flopping a straight if not for the preflop call of your raise, because if he's tight, he wouldn't call a raise with trash like 7-10. Calling all your bets with a strong pocket pair is a possibility, and you'd have him beat so long as he doesn't turn a set on the river or is holding jacks. But there's also the possibility he called you preflop with 8's or 9's and is riding a set and your big bets to a nice pot. He could be on a draw with something like KQ, Q-10... I can't say for sure either way.

Quick take: bet 1/2 the pot on the turn and if he insta-calls, you should probably check-call the river, maybe even check/fold if the river gives you something real bad.
petersun
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Monday, February 5th, 2007, 5:35 PM) *
does anyone overbet the pot here? or is our hand to weak?


I think overbetting the pot on the turn is risking too much on one pair with this board against this opponent. You will get the same information with a smaller bet without committing yourself on the river.

I think in this case, we care about the appropriate balance of pot control and value extraction. If he's on a draw, you make him pay; if he has you beat we want to lose the minimum. I think a $9 or $10 bet does that here.
No_Neck
alright so I actually bet $20 virtually putting the villian all in and he pushed his remaining 8 in, I called he turned over KT clubs. and the river was the 6 of clubs giving his the flush.

I think the overbet was a mistake most of the time... discuss.
Miguel McHarris
In this situation I think the overbet is good. He's a weak player and isn't going to smooth call a set or a straight on the flop. You made the right play. Unfortunately this is a game that occasionally rewards stupidity, i.e. steve784.
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