waldo
Monday, April 4th, 2005, 10:49 PM
I was wondering if you could give some sort of timeline of your progression through the limits of poker, from your $10/$20 back in canada up to your $4000/$8000.
Thanks
DanielNegreanu
Friday, April 8th, 2005, 5:36 AM
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000
ddudley
Friday, April 8th, 2005, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000
Thanks, this is one of the most useful pieces of information you have ever posted.
Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.
DanielNegreanu
Friday, April 8th, 2005, 5:38 PM
Well I actually started out playing $1-$5 in house games and that went on forabout 8 months also...
ddudley
Friday, April 8th, 2005, 6:36 PM
What kind of tournaments were you playing along with these limit progressions?
Can you talk a little bit about the 3 years you played 200/400 and 400/800? I heard that Phil Ivey had a big problem with getting comfortable at 400/800. I was wondering if you had trouble with that jump too.
Stephen
Saturday, April 9th, 2005, 12:04 AM
QUOTE (ddudley)
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000
Thanks, this is one of the most useful pieces of information you have ever posted.
Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.
Hehehe. Im still playing 2/5 at the casino, but Im a broke university student, so I have an excuse. A good night for me is $500. A good night for Daniel is $500,000.
KDawgCometh
Saturday, April 9th, 2005, 12:40 AM
Daniel, what factors made you decide to move up. What did your roll look like when you decided to make a jump. Were you playing fully rolled or did you short roll it. How did you know it was the right time to move up, especially considering a year after you made the jump from 10-20 to 20-40 you were playing high stakes limit(100-200). What makes a good 20-40 player different from a good 100-200 player and the difference between a 100-200 player from a 300-600 or higher player
Anonymous
Monday, April 11th, 2005, 8:54 PM
Daniel, if you actually answer all of these questions, you are the man. But I have a much more personally pertinent one: would you ever consider playing the micro games online, you know, just for the hell of it?
8)
Anonymous
Tuesday, April 12th, 2005, 10:09 AM
Daniel
any reason why you spent 4 years at 10-20 and seemed to zoom through other levels. I'm guessing your skill level grew and maybe tourney wins?
ddudley
Tuesday, April 12th, 2005, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Anonymous)
Daniel
any reason why you spent 4 years at 10-20 and seemed to zoom through other levels. I'm guessing your skill level grew and maybe tourney wins?
I not sure but I believe that's when he lived in Toronto and that was the highest game available.
Rocketwadster
Tuesday, April 12th, 2005, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000
what about the times (if there were any) that you had to step back a level? For example, lets say you played 1000-2000 for your year, jumped up, got smoked, so you had to go back a level (or maybe even more). Does/did that ever happen? :wink:
ArseneLupin3
Friday, April 29th, 2005, 9:48 AM
QUOTE (ddudley)
Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.
You have to understand that this was when the canadian dollar was worth approximately 11 cents, so it was really about $1/2 us!
-adam
ddudley
Friday, April 29th, 2005, 2:24 PM
QUOTE (ArseneLupin3)
You have to understand that this was when the canadian dollar was worth approximately 11 cents, so it was really about $1/2 us!
-adam
OK, maybe I'm dense, but are you serious or joking here? I don't know much about exchange rates but I thought the canadian dollar has always been worth 0.8 to 0.9 US dollars.
pockets
Friday, April 29th, 2005, 4:51 PM
It's a joke.
Nimbletoe
Tuesday, May 3rd, 2005, 9:36 PM
Yeah, the exchange rate is a lot lower than it was, but he's still being pretty sarcastic.
pokerchampgt
Wednesday, May 4th, 2005, 7:35 PM
Is there any reason why you didnt play 2/3 blind structures?
jpatche
Thursday, May 12th, 2005, 3:07 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000
are all of these limit games?
what percentage do you play of each (limit/nl) as far as cash games?
do any pros stick closely to no limit?
pokerchampgt
Sunday, May 15th, 2005, 8:14 AM
Yes they are all limit games
pockets
Sunday, May 15th, 2005, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (pokerchampgt)
Yes they are all limit games
Well, I think the higher limits are mixed games, with limit and no limit (and pot limit, which now feels unloved because it only gets the parenthesees).
AndyGee
Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 1:10 PM
If you live in Toronto (as DN did during the 10/20 years) the biggest "legal" game you can play on a day in day out basis is 10/20. When you move to Vegas (or AC) you have so many limit options you can progress faster, and (although the pros and semi-pros are all over the place) there is more dead money in the pockets of spend happy tourists. I think DN has alluded to the fact that the 10/20 game he was playing in befor he moved south was a very tough game to beat.
acesfull333
Friday, December 9th, 2005, 10:35 AM
I have to agree... that's great info to read.. and I'd love to see an article on this topic sometime!!!
CCM - AcesFull333
Marchione
Tuesday, December 13th, 2005, 8:01 PM
i played in the charity casino in southern ont (k-w) wile daniel was playing in toronto ~ the 10-20 was pretty much the only real action going at that time ~
most card "clubs" didnt offer a lot of holdem ..
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