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waldo
I was wondering if you could give some sort of timeline of your progression through the limits of poker, from your $10/$20 back in canada up to your $4000/$8000.
Thanks
DanielNegreanu
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000
ddudley
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000


Thanks, this is one of the most useful pieces of information you have ever posted.

Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.
DanielNegreanu
Well I actually started out playing $1-$5 in house games and that went on forabout 8 months also...
ddudley
What kind of tournaments were you playing along with these limit progressions?

Can you talk a little bit about the 3 years you played 200/400 and 400/800? I heard that Phil Ivey had a big problem with getting comfortable at 400/800. I was wondering if you had trouble with that jump too.
Stephen
QUOTE (ddudley)
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000


Thanks, this is one of the most useful pieces of information you have ever posted.

Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.


Hehehe. Im still playing 2/5 at the casino, but Im a broke university student, so I have an excuse. A good night for me is $500. A good night for Daniel is $500,000.
KDawgCometh
Daniel, what factors made you decide to move up. What did your roll look like when you decided to make a jump. Were you playing fully rolled or did you short roll it. How did you know it was the right time to move up, especially considering a year after you made the jump from 10-20 to 20-40 you were playing high stakes limit(100-200). What makes a good 20-40 player different from a good 100-200 player and the difference between a 100-200 player from a 300-600 or higher player
Anonymous
Daniel, if you actually answer all of these questions, you are the man. But I have a much more personally pertinent one: would you ever consider playing the micro games online, you know, just for the hell of it?

8)
Anonymous
Daniel
any reason why you spent 4 years at 10-20 and seemed to zoom through other levels. I'm guessing your skill level grew and maybe tourney wins?
ddudley
QUOTE (Anonymous)
Daniel
any reason why you spent 4 years at 10-20 and seemed to zoom through other levels. I'm guessing your skill level grew and maybe tourney wins?


I not sure but I believe that's when he lived in Toronto and that was the highest game available.
Rocketwadster
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000


what about the times (if there were any) that you had to step back a level? For example, lets say you played 1000-2000 for your year, jumped up, got smoked, so you had to go back a level (or maybe even more). Does/did that ever happen? :wink:
ArseneLupin3
QUOTE (ddudley)
Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.


You have to understand that this was when the canadian dollar was worth approximately 11 cents, so it was really about $1/2 us!

-adam
ddudley
QUOTE (ArseneLupin3)
You have to understand that this was when the canadian dollar was worth approximately 11 cents, so it was really about $1/2 us!

-adam


OK, maybe I'm dense, but are you serious or joking here? I don't know much about exchange rates but I thought the canadian dollar has always been worth 0.8 to 0.9 US dollars.
pockets
It's a joke.
Nimbletoe
Yeah, the exchange rate is a lot lower than it was, but he's still being pretty sarcastic.
pokerchampgt
Is there any reason why you didnt play 2/3 blind structures?
jpatche
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu)
Approximate of course:
4 years 10-20
8 months 20-40
4 months 40-80
2 years 100-200
3 years 200-400/400-800
1 year 1000-2000
6 months 2000-4000
6 months 4000-8000


are all of these limit games?
what percentage do you play of each (limit/nl) as far as cash games?
do any pros stick closely to no limit?
pokerchampgt
Yes they are all limit games
pockets
QUOTE (pokerchampgt)
Yes they are all limit games


Well, I think the higher limits are mixed games, with limit and no limit (and pot limit, which now feels unloved because it only gets the parenthesees).
AndyGee
If you live in Toronto (as DN did during the 10/20 years) the biggest "legal" game you can play on a day in day out basis is 10/20. When you move to Vegas (or AC) you have so many limit options you can progress faster, and (although the pros and semi-pros are all over the place) there is more dead money in the pockets of spend happy tourists. I think DN has alluded to the fact that the 10/20 game he was playing in befor he moved south was a very tough game to beat.
acesfull333
I have to agree... that's great info to read.. and I'd love to see an article on this topic sometime!!!

CCM - AcesFull333
Marchione
i played in the charity casino in southern ont (k-w) wile daniel was playing in toronto ~ the 10-20 was pretty much the only real action going at that time ~
most card "clubs" didnt offer a lot of holdem ..
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