No. Eff the frogs.


What he said.

Pretty much the only good thing about France is the wine and their contributions to food.

This link is gold...


- American Revolution
- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/30...e.ap/index.html

sw?

Bravo.

nope. Their wine is good, but US wines are catching up, and I'll bet money that American wines will surpass french wines within 5 years in regards to taste scoring. I'm too lazy to do any research though.

As for the food, I was thinking the 5 mother sauces. Them's some goot shit.

But yeah, screw the frogs.

LOL

American wine won't "surpass" French wine in 5 years, or at all during your lifetime. Also, I think they've made just a few contributions to things like art, literature, music, film, etc.

Please explain, because I don't understand this hatred towards the French. You do realize that Germany successfully invaded Poland, Denmark, Norway, FRANCE, Luxembourg, Belgium, and Holland right? We didn't quite "save the french" in WWII, we helped join a fight to liberate like half of Europe. And maybe you and the other France-haters should do a little research on the French Resistance.

Don't even get me started on WWI. Suffice to say that there were nearly 1.5 MILLION French military deaths, nearly half a million civilian deaths, and over 4 MILLION military wounded. USA suffered a little over 100,000 deaths and 200,000 wounded.

So what's with all the France-hate? Jealousy?

American wines have already caught up actually. A long time ago. 1976, but the quality was probably there before.

California rated better. Doesn't mean that California wines are better, but they are certainly to be regarded in the same light as any other of the finest wines in the world. It comes down to cultivation really, same as weed.

At that same tasting they bottled up a number of vintages which are or were scheduled to a 30 year later tasting I believe it was. Not sure of that outcome, I'll have to look it up. But point being, California wine can hold its own against any French wine, or any wine in the world for that matter, everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

I prefer Italian wines personally.....actually, I love all wine. Who am I kidding.

if the US had a better year that the french once doesn't mean they should be seen in the same light as the French. To repeat the feat year in and year out is remarkable. Australia is the country that is catching if not exceeding the french in global exports of wine. The US just doesn't match up AINEC.

This is one of many blind taste tests that have been done, I mentioned it because it was the most remarkable. These have been done repeatedly for decades now though, and there is no question that California holds its own with the rest of the world.

So the feat has been has been repeated year in and year out. The California coast, most specifically Napa Valley, is now widely recognized as one of the elite terrains, in the world. Continued attention to the elements of terroir will only make California wines better in the future.

The only reason it wasn't to begin with was simply arrogance. Not so much just French arrogance, but arrogance in the old roots of the wine industry.

You are correct that Australia is catching up in exports, but this has nothing to do with quality of wine. Unless of course you consider Yellowtail fine wine.

Where do you get your information on wine exactly? The fact that you used AINEC makes me think you have no idea what you are talking about as far as American wines go. I studied at Fore Street Restaurant, which was ranked 16th in this country at the time. Beard Award winning chef. Desserts have been picked as a best choice worldwide. Gourmet, Saveur, look it up. So that is where my knowledge is coming from. Where is your knowledge of American wines coming from? I am curious to say the least.

Exhibit 1 your honor.

Exhibit 2

Exhibit 3

Exhibit 4

Exhibit 5

Are you still going to try and tell me California wines don't match up, AINEC?

I am not educated in the art of wine by any means but I do know a thing or 2. I drink wine regularly but I don't have the $$$ to enjoy quality wines. I have worked in 2 very well rated restaurants and other not so well rated ones but and have seen which wines they choose to sell. The most expensive are not american and the most common aren't either. American wine making is also very young and not developed across many different climates. For these reason I say they do not match up the reputation of the french, their diversity and expertise.


This being said California does produce excellent wine that were sold in the restaurants i worked in and were very popular, but just because they won a remarkable wine contest doesn't make it better than the french as it was earlier claimed. If the niagra valley had an exceptional year would that make Canadian wine better than the french. As a chef I expect you to agree with the fact that that claim was rediculous no?

And I just knew what I did about the australian wine because I saw a thing on the news about it a while back.

edit- I looked athe link you just posted and wasn't going to read right away cause it looks long but when skimming through it I find this

WINES WORLDWIDE - Still, even many American wine experts agree with Deluc's assessment that the best French wines are the best in existence. Wiegand, one of only three people in the world who has earned the twin titles of Master Sommelier and Master of Wine, contends that no California wine approaches the refinement and complexity of, say, a legendary 1945 Chateau Latour. "Of the greatest Cabernet- or Merlot-based wines in the world, the French in my opinion have the top 10 out of 10," he says. "However, once you remove the top 0.5% of wines, California, Australia and Chile come roaring up."

too much information to process.

did you see my edit? dare I say pwned?

Ehibit 5 is my favorite

You must not have read anything I wrote very carefully, I never said that California wines are better, but you saying that they can't hold their own is a preposterous claim, and one that is absolutely not true in every sense of the statement.

You sound like one of the judges that was trying to hide their blind tasting notes after they found out who they had picked.

Would I pick a '73 Margaux over most wines? Sure, of course I would.

But to say a Mario Gemello Santa Clara couldn't hold up, AINEC, is simply absurd.

No owned for you today, sorry.

edit - And of course a French sommelier is going to say that. Just as all the judges were saying the same thing before they picked a California wine as the best. Goes back to the whole French arrogance that was brought up earlier.

That all said, it's nice to see another foodie here. I've yet to make it to Montreal, but will get there sometime, and will be ecstatic to taste the cuisine.

It seems that I may have under-estimated the quality of California wines but just as the French judge favors his wine, could the california chef be alittle biased.
I'd enjoy hearing your story so if ever you're in Montreal looking for a friend to share a dinner or pop a bottle I am always willing to accepted a free dinner. And we have the most slutty/hottest strippers in all of Canada and the US.

Of course, anyone can be biased. With wine, it all depends on ones palette, and people have different palettes, so, it's a matter of taste, literally. My only point was that California can holds it own with the best of them. One thing for sure is they will have tastings until the end of time because there is a lot of fine wine out there.

When I make it to Montreal (eventually), I'll be sure to post here first. God knows I love strippers and sluts, as well as good food.

Cheers.

Yeah, so Top 7 wonders of the World....

The French are lovers, not fighters.

Shouldn't the ME of the WSOP be a 7 wonder?

look what I found while watching mythbusters

The air surrounding the eiffel tower is heavier than the eiffel tower itself!!!!