Lets say you go to McDonalds. It's pretty busy and you go and order your food. The guy serves it to you and you give him your money. The price of the meal is $11.70 and you give him a $10 bill and a $5 bill. He takes it off you. He wait for your change. He gets distracted and takes someone elses order. He then notices you haven't left the counter and says 'Are you ok?'. You say 'Yeah, I'm just waiting for my change'. He says 'oh, how much did you give me?'. You say 'fifteen dollars'. He then gives you $38.30.
He obviosuly misheard you and though you said 'fifty' instead of 'fifteen'.

What do you do?

Tell him and give it back.

I'm not gonna get some 16 year-old kid fired cuz his drawer is $35 short.


Plus, that's REALLY bad karma to keep the money. I'd probably lose every coin-flip race situation for like 2 months.

Back away slowly.

Oh, I meant this.

Depends I guess. If I am getting terrible service then I will not say a word. If not I always give it back. Sadly, I rarely get bad service when this happens.

How bout if he's 17?

haha...I don't know why but I found that really funny directly after the "back away slowly"

Fuck Em!

I check to see if the french fries are filled all the way to the top. If that little fker screwed me and only filled my fries up half way, he can forget it. I get screwed all the time with that fry skimming crap!

You know they have some sort of giant fry holder, and they skim em right into there and eat em all at the end of the night.

Bastages!

A situation like this happened to me a few weeks ago.

I was on delivery at the pizza place, and a get a run to go on. I go and it's a older woman (probably about 60) in a wheelchair. Her order came out to $21, and she hands me a twenty, 3 singles, and another twenty and says "Keep the change." Now technically, I did nothing wrong here, but it's relatively certain that she counted that second twenty as a single and thought she was giving me a $3 tip, when actually she gave me a $22 tip.


I honestly didn't realize until I was back in my car, as I just glanced quickly at the money when she handed it to me. But yeah, I kept it. Everyone I've told this story to said I'm going to hell, but hey, if you can't count your own damned money that's your fault.

You didn't even take off your shirt for her?

See ya there.



Big table in the back, btw.

I would look down, not making eye contact and walk away.....but I'm an as.s.

It definitely makes up for the amount of times they probably shorted you food in the drive-thru. I swear this happens to me 1 of 5 times.

Makes up for all the other old people who are ridiculously cheap.

they're not cheap. they're just tipping the same as they did when they were your age. inflation mixed with dead brain cells baby.

imagine 40 years from now when you tip a pizza kid and he says, "that old Kurt ******* only gave me $3 for the $500 pie"

wow, good to see that everyone is honest. This happend to me a few years ago in my pre - poker days. I kept the cash. But now, after playing poker for a while, I value the moral side of things more than the financial side of things, so nowadays, I would give the money back

Anyone who doesn't give the money back is just terrible, no matter what rationalization they use. There's a very good chance whoever gave you the incorrect change is gonna lose his job, or have to reimburse the company from his pocket. It's one thing stealing from a faceless corporation, but taking money from a pimply faced 16 year old trying to scrape together to cash to pay for college is ****ing evil and inexcusable

If he's black or Jewish then I keep the money.

of course, if he was Jewish I would most likely get shorted.


"Quickly kids! Crack the Jew egg before it hatches!"

woah woah woah...there's two parts to that.

is it wrong to take the cash? yeah, it's not what you're supposed to get and if you knowingly take the money that's your thing. but people do it and i don't think they are scum or anything.

you're trying to make it seem like someone's stealing from the kid's pocket. the kid DID make a mistake. as a cashier you don't have a lot more responsibilities outside of accepting money and giving money. if you screw that up you kind've deserve to lose your job. that's life!

What a terrible, stupid attitude. "If you can't defend yourself from a knife-wielding thug, you deserve to lose your life, or at least a kidney. That's life!" The idea that people deserve to pay the maximum repurcussions for every mistake they make or weakness they have just because somebody can't be bothered to do the right thing is not just impractical, it's absurd. Just because you can't stop something from going wrong, does that mean you deserve that thing to go wrong? If I could kick your ass, does that mean you deserve for me to do so?

The kid made a mistake, but whoever took and kept the money recognized it, realized what he was doing, and conciously took and kept money that didn't belong to him. That's just a half-step better than actively stealing from somebody in the first place, especially if you know the consequences (that the kid may get fired or have to pay the money back). I can understand that many people rationalize that keeping the money is fine because McDonald's will never miss it. It's more excusable than taking money from a kid. But most people know that's not how it works, and are too selfish and morally corrupt to care.

huh? I'm pretty sure that the kid could've stopped himself from giving away free money.

Fine. Just because you don't stop something from going wrong. Or are more likely to make some mistake.

****ing prick.

I don't even know what this says... can someone rewrite it in English.


Also, I was just pointing out an error in your post... Since 'the kid' is pimply, we can assume he's white, in which case I would inform him of his error. So don't be mad at me.

The words after "fine" were suggested changes to the bolded portion you quoted, so as to make the analogy better.

I see you have my brother quoted in your signature, meaning you are probably stupid.

First thing I'd do is ask myself why I'm buying $11.70 worth of food from Mac freaking Donalds.


What am I, Ron Mexico or something?

geez, I try to make it short and you distort.

First of all you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Your examples are ridiculous but I'll play along.

You should know that I have over 10 years of foodservice experience from dishwasher to country-wide territory manager so I am very familiar with the restaurant business and particularly the quick service restaurants.

The person who gets the wrong change has to make a moral decision. Give it back and do the right thing. Keep it and giggle yourself stupid.

Returning the money is obviously morally correct. But c'mon, if I saw somebody keep it I wouldn't exactly think of them as monsters. They're beneficiaries of a mistake. You're insinuating that the dude who has no desire to steal while ordering now becomes worst than the person who made the mistake.

Would your statement change if this was a drive through? Does your statement hold true regardless of how far I've driven before I realize the error? What if I'm in a rush for an important event? If having the money makes it wrong does throwing it in the garbage or giving it to charity change anything? How much effort do I have to go through to right HIS wrong? If any of these things can change your response then it's a matter of context and rationalization.

If your response is to give the money back no matter what the circumstance then you are one noble SOB. I can give up the money but I'm not driving back to the restaurant if I've returned home.

^^^^^^^^ Above was the normal way to respond to my comment which wasn't really fighting for either side in the first place. I took the POV of both the customer and cashier.

Now my turn and I'll even use your retarded example. If your JOB was to kick my ass (like if you were a boxer) then yeah, you're fukkin supposed to do it. What is so hard to understand about doing your job??

If you're at a bank and screw up your float you get fired. If you are a drug dealer and count out the wrong amount of dope during a transfer you will either have a happy partner or get shot. His job is to control the cash...if you cannot do this you get fired. In my experience a guy who screws up the cash will do it again (especially in an idiotproof system such as McDonalds). Whether you return the cash or not only affects the company and not the cashier. Also, it's a rare circumstance where a first time cash error gets a quality employee fired. If he gets fired it's because it's happened before. Whether the money returns or not the company will take note of the error.

But that's not what you meant...you're just saying something stupid for effect.

MOST people do not return that missing money. Therefore, if you return the money and it was indeed an idiot handling the cash that person will eventually get fired later because of the people who do not return it. It may not be right but it is true.

I don't know why you're so angry at me. I see things from both sides. It's not a clear cut decision. Most would simply judge a man by his intent but if you think for a moment there is an absolute right answer then it's gonna be a rough road for you sonny.
















oh...I forgot to add a FUCK YOU!!

fleung wins this round... and I think he's an asshole.


or do I?

haha...I don't even know what I said that sent newbie on a rant.

Dude didn't even ask what I would do. I've always returned the money because I'd appreciate it if I was the cashier and I believe in karma...but I understand why people don't. It's not human nature and it takes effort. People don't put a lot of effort for things that benefit themselves much less things that benefit others.

I'd wait and see how good my food was first.

I'd give it back......

karma is a biotch

I'd give it back......

karma is a biotch

I always give it back, unless I don't even realize it until it's too late. That has happened before, and I feel bad, but there's really nothing I can do if like 8 hours later I realize it or something.

Now, I will say I have walked out of Steak 'N Shake paying less for my meal, because some idiot douchebag that works there wrote up our check wrong. Literally, my friend and mine ordered two platters, two cokes, and a shake, and got it all for $4 because he wrote out the check wrong. That's not my problem.

I also walked out of Hooters one night without paying at all because my waitress did not bring the check out, and left before I did. No other waitresses were even paying attention to me, so once again, not my problem.

keep it. just like when i'm at the blackjack table and the dealer pays me and he wasn't supposed to, don't say a word.

First of all, you suck at intelligent arguments.

But you're super good at name calling.



and 2nd, Karma is all in your head people. It's not a real thing!

I'd go get a hooker or half a gram of coke to wash away my guilt over not giving it back.

This is hilarious when it happens.

About a year ago at work, we had an instance where a dealer mistakenly hit her own hand when she had 17 and busted, then paid the whole table. Everyone thought they'd be slick and not say anything. One guy was playing pretty big, so surveillence was watching the game, caught the mistake, notified the gaming board, and called the pit.

So it's like 10-15 minutes later, and all the players have to give back the money. Mr. Bigshot is throwing a fit cuz he owes us $600.

But I think we gave him a buffet comp, so it all worked out.

id keep it as well...38 bucks is 1/3 of the price of an asian hooker so yeah, id keep it


im just serious

For $114 you better be able to keep her and make her clean your house, etc.

odd, this happened to me tonight


I corrected the nice (I thought) lady giving me my food and the stupid bitch didn't even say thank you. cunt



Good thing the hot and sour soup was excellent.



do unto others and all that crap

I give the money back, but if someone brings me extra food on accident I don't tell them which has happened to me a lot lately. They often just throw it out anyways.

Today I was at In N Out, and the lady hands me a vanilla shake before my food comes, and then brings me another vanilla shake with my food. I'll gladly take it as long as she doesn't see the other shake. It would have just gone in the garbage.

actually, when I delivered tv's and whatnot for Circuit City, I loved going to the over 55 community because I always knew I was getting tipped. New York jews tip. Thats a fact. Trust me, I live in South Florida. They pay for good service.


You sonofa...

You didn't even know if I'd see this.

although, funny considering my avatar. I believe that order is close to 8 bucks

qft....you can feed a village of those little freaks for $114

Haha, you've worked at Burger King for 10 years. I didn't realize I was angry. I just tried to craft a compelling argument for why there's no excuse for knowingly keeping the money.



First off, the Newbie thing is great. I've always enjoyed that aspect of forum message-boards. I only have like 11 posts, so I must be 15 and my opinions are inherently less relevant. I'm having disturbing flashbacks to 4th grade...

And I don't care what you would do in that situation. It's irrelevant to the point I was trying to make, which is that everyone has a moral obligation to give the money back if doing so is reasonable. It's certainly more interesting to take a general position and defend it than to have people raise their hands and indicate which side they are on.




I have a feeling if I spent any time here I would despise you, and everything about you. I am very good at "intelligent arguments," and also super good at name calling. Ex: "I believe Affirmative Action is necessary due to the inherent disadvantage every black student and worker faces. Also, your father is a fucking queer."

The last part in bold made me laugh, because it means you're just retarded.

Go find the couch thread.

I return the money. I'm going to the big table in the back for other, more hedonistic reasons.



FSRT!

It doesn't matter what you believe in, giving the money back is the right thing to do. I always speak up if I have been shorted and I always give money back when they give me too much. In my oppinion, it should be second nature... well, at least that is how I was raised and I am pretty certain my son acts the same way.

You're a good man Charlie Brown.


Even if you did use the C word.

I have a feeling that you're right.

But that bolded part is one of the funniest things i've read on here in months. You must believe in god too. LOL.

Okay dude, I'm giving you one more chance to prove you're not a total lunatic.

EDIT: no, ur a lunatic. it's official. your reaction to everything is insane.

You delete the real content I wrote and quote the leftover and write BK stuff like that's really insulting. I don't look down at those who work at BK and you already know that's not true.

You freak out because I used the word "newbie". I didn't write "stupid newb" or a remark insinuating you were retarded due to the limited amount of posts. You ARE a newb and it's a way of describing you. If I say "that black guy" in reference to the one black guy in a room full of white guys does that mean I hate black guys?

You've come here in an aggressive manner speaking to people you don't know. The same way you over reacted to "newb" is the same way you reacted to my first post on this thread.

I don't want to flame the mentally challenged too hard so I'm going to let you go where you go.

I suggest you take the medicine prescribed to you.