is pair and flush draw really good?and which advices would give of playin it?many just will go all in with it but i cant agree with them,cause i lost much in these sitations.I dont talk about nuts draw and top pair.I mostly mean just this:
for example somebody raised preflop u called with 8h7h and flop 7c2h3h.
or it could be some hot action without preflop raise on flop smth. like Qs6c5s where u hold 6sJs.
how do u handle with this?
Full Version: Pair And Flush Draw.is It Really Good?
Pokerstove is your friend.
Just some examples:
You kinda get the idea.
We're just less than even money vs top pair, or an overpair in these hands, so if you want to gambool, or are getting good odds, there's no real reason not to get it in, kinda thing, meh.
Depends a lot though, I mean, they could have a set, or two pair, etc, which hurts our odds.
I'm not really giving any advice, but rather posting some numbers for you to consider, I guess.
Just some examples:
CODE
5,940 games 0.341 secs 17,419 games/sec
Board: 7c 2h 3h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.020% 47.02% 00.00% 2793 0.00 { 8h7h }
Hand 1: 52.980% 52.98% 00.00% 3147 0.00 { AA }
Board: 7c 2h 3h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.020% 47.02% 00.00% 2793 0.00 { 8h7h }
Hand 1: 52.980% 52.98% 00.00% 3147 0.00 { AA }
CODE
11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec
Board: Qs 6c 5s
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.569% 48.57% 00.00% 5770 0.00 { Js6s }
Hand 1: 51.431% 51.43% 00.00% 6110 0.00 { AQs, AQo }
Board: Qs 6c 5s
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.569% 48.57% 00.00% 5770 0.00 { Js6s }
Hand 1: 51.431% 51.43% 00.00% 6110 0.00 { AQs, AQo }
You kinda get the idea.
We're just less than even money vs top pair, or an overpair in these hands, so if you want to gambool, or are getting good odds, there's no real reason not to get it in, kinda thing, meh.
Depends a lot though, I mean, they could have a set, or two pair, etc, which hurts our odds.
I'm not really giving any advice, but rather posting some numbers for you to consider, I guess.
QUOTE (Mihej @ Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 2:44 PM) 
is pair and flush draw really good?and which advices would give of playin it?many just will go all in with it but i cant agree with them,cause i lost much in these sitations.I dont talk about nuts draw and top pair.I mostly mean just this:
for example somebody raised preflop u called with 8h7h and flop 7c2h3h.
or it could be some hot action without preflop raise on flop smth. like Qs6c5s where u hold 6sJs.
how do u handle with this?
for example somebody raised preflop u called with 8h7h and flop 7c2h3h.
or it could be some hot action without preflop raise on flop smth. like Qs6c5s where u hold 6sJs.
how do u handle with this?
Depends.
If you're looking across the table at me, then you're probably good to shove your flush draw.
Last night:
Four times I flopped the nut straight.
Four times I got it all in with a random fd.
Four times I got my straight snapped ON THE RIVER.
Odds schmodds.
I presume cash game,
consider your fold equity
consider the pot size
consider your stack
consider the chance you get to see the river cheaply if you don't shove
consider the chance others will draw to better hands if you let them cheaply
consider how many pay off wizards are left in the hand
consider the chance you lose even when you hit
so, overall, raise about three fitty.
consider your fold equity
consider the pot size
consider your stack
consider the chance you get to see the river cheaply if you don't shove
consider the chance others will draw to better hands if you let them cheaply
consider how many pay off wizards are left in the hand
consider the chance you lose even when you hit
so, overall, raise about three fitty.
The optimal way to play it is to transfer me all your money.
That way you can save the time it would have taken to lose it and do something more productive.
That way you can save the time it would have taken to lose it and do something more productive.
Abba is on fire tonight.
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