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mark_999
ok I had Kh,Kd, Raised preflop, got 1 caller

Flop 9s.gif, 10s, Js

I was first to act and bet 15$

He Raised me to 50$

Call? Fold? Raise?
Doug
What limits and was it a tournament or a cash game?
mark_999
QUOTE (Doug @ Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 9:58 AM) *
What limits and was it a tournament or a cash game?



yea sorry, 1/2 cash game

both had about 250 infront of us
Ouch-8s
fold
Zach6668
Pretty easy fold without the Ks.
mark_999
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 10:46 AM) *
Pretty easy fold without the Ks.



Ok good, Yea in the actual hand i folded, I was thinking of just going all in, but meh i just folded.
navybuttons
there's one hand you could be ahead of in that spot, an AsX bluff. there's no other hand you are ahead of. trivially easy fold.
RiscaRod
You have only put $15 + original raise into the pot. You are in a very uncomfortable position, and you really do not want to be risking your stack here. If you do call, what are you going to do on the turn if he bets?
If you are thinking about going all in, its a very risky play. You will be risking your whole stack on a hand where you are not sure of where you stand, and you are probably behind.

Save your money for a better situation.
Zach6668
The thing is... if you are behind, you're drawing dead, usually, or to runner runner perfect, anyways.

When you currently hold the best hand, your opponent will have a million outs.

Find a better spot.
Actuary
Shove or fold.

Lack of postion is a killer
NickTheKid
QUOTE (Actuary @ Friday, January 26th, 2007, 7:19 PM) *
Shove or fold.

Lack of postion is a killer


IMO - He had a double draw, probably something like AQ with a spade or something. Push or Fold, agree with actuary, without position you are pretty much boned here.

I don't really see a PROBLEM with pushing here either.. I mean - if you wanna gamble on the fact he doesn't have two spades, you can pretty much assume he wouldn't play a straight like that... but I also agree you can pick a million better spots.
Jw_513
1. you're beat.
2. If you are in the lead, then he's probably got 15+ outs to hit. Really dangerous board.
3. You don't have any redraws. (you dont have a set or king of spades, but you do have 3 queens for a straight. still pretty bad tho.)
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