mark_999
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 9:27 AM
ok I had Kh,Kd, Raised preflop, got 1 caller
Flop

, 10s, Js
I was first to act and bet 15$
He Raised me to 50$
Call? Fold? Raise?
Doug
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 9:58 AM
What limits and was it a tournament or a cash game?
mark_999
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 10:08 AM
QUOTE (Doug @ Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 9:58 AM)

What limits and was it a tournament or a cash game?
yea sorry, 1/2 cash game
both had about 250 infront of us
Ouch-8s
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 10:37 AM
fold
Zach6668
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 10:46 AM
Pretty easy fold without the Ks.
mark_999
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 10:53 AM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 10:46 AM)

Pretty easy fold without the Ks.
Ok good, Yea in the actual hand i folded, I was thinking of just going all in, but meh i just folded.
navybuttons
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 11:05 AM
there's one hand you could be ahead of in that spot, an AsX bluff. there's no other hand you are ahead of. trivially easy fold.
RiscaRod
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 11:18 AM
You have only put $15 + original raise into the pot. You are in a very uncomfortable position, and you really do not want to be risking your stack here. If you do call, what are you going to do on the turn if he bets?
If you are thinking about going all in, its a very risky play. You will be risking your whole stack on a hand where you are not sure of where you stand, and you are probably behind.
Save your money for a better situation.
Zach6668
Thursday, January 25th, 2007, 11:21 AM
The thing is... if you are behind, you're drawing dead, usually, or to runner runner perfect, anyways.
When you currently hold the best hand, your opponent will have a million outs.
Find a better spot.
Actuary
Friday, January 26th, 2007, 4:19 PM
Shove or fold.
Lack of postion is a killer
NickTheKid
Friday, January 26th, 2007, 4:30 PM
QUOTE (Actuary @ Friday, January 26th, 2007, 7:19 PM)

Shove or fold.
Lack of postion is a killer
IMO - He had a double draw, probably something like AQ with a spade or something. Push or Fold, agree with actuary, without position you are pretty much boned here.
I don't really see a PROBLEM with pushing here either.. I mean - if you wanna gamble on the fact he doesn't have two spades, you can pretty much assume he wouldn't play a straight like that... but I also agree you can pick a million better spots.
Jw_513
Friday, January 26th, 2007, 6:36 PM
1. you're beat.
2. If you are in the lead, then he's probably got 15+ outs to hit. Really dangerous board.
3. You don't have any redraws. (you dont have a set or king of spades, but you do have 3 queens for a straight. still pretty bad tho.)
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