mikeysong
Monday, January 22nd, 2007, 1:34 AM
Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
4 players
ConverterPre-flop: (
4 players) Super Man! is SB with A

4
2 folds,
Super Man! raises, BB calls.
Flop: 7

2

3

(
4SB, 2 players)
Super Man! bets, BB calls.
Turn: 4

(
3BB, 2 players)
Super Man! bets, BB calls.
River: Q

(
5BB, 2 players)
Super Man! ?
cc standard or bet/fold?
ty no_neck, i completely forgot to fix it.
iggymcfly
Monday, January 22nd, 2007, 1:44 AM
Definitely bet this. If SB lucks into a queen or heart, there's not much you can do, but you have every reason to believe you're ahead, and all a check does is allow SB to only put a bet in when ahead.
Zach6668
Monday, January 22nd, 2007, 2:44 AM
Hmmm, generally, I c/c a lot in these situations, because the aggro tards on AP always bet when checked to.
However, in this case, I mean we have a pair of 4s, but it's pretty strong relative to the board. I'd expect a lot of Ax calls, here as well as 2s, 3s, calling down. I think we can probably get called by enough to bet here.
However, Iggy, most villains will bet a lot of worse hands here. It's not like we're only facing a bet when it's a 7 or a Q. Any 2, 3 is betting here, as well as a lot of random bluffs. So c/c'ing definitely has some merit here as well.
I'm kinda torn between the two, although we are almost always ahead here, and for that reason, I think a bet is better than risking it gets checked through.
- Zach
No_Neck
Monday, January 22nd, 2007, 7:18 AM
QUOTE (mikeysong @ Monday, January 22nd, 2007, 4:34 AM)

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
4 players
ConverterPre-flop: (
4 players) Super Man! is SB with A

4
2 folds,
Super Man! raises, BB calls.
Flop: 7

2

3

(
4SB, 2 players)
Super Man! bets, BB calls.
Turn: 4

(
3BB, 2 players)
Super Man! bets, BB calls.
River: Q

(
5BB, 2 players)
Super Man! ?
cc standard or bet/fold?
FYP

then I check call because I am a showdown monkey.
iggymcfly
Monday, January 22nd, 2007, 3:16 PM
I guess if your opponents are donkish enough to just call down with a FD and then bet the river when they miss, c/c might be all right. In the games I play in though, a FD always raises this on the flop or turn. Any gutshots or open-enders paired up, so villian has to have either a low pair or a high-card hand.
Something like KJ or A6 is way more likely to call a bet on the river than to make a bet, and even though the low pairs will probably bet if checked to, you're a lot more sure to get a bet by betting it yourself. I'm betting the river 100% of the time in this situation.