Okay, here's the deal.

I am really frustrated with what is out there for hand history converters. The one that everyone uses and advises here SUPPOSEDLY supports UltimateBet if you copy/paste from the hand history while at the table, but it really doesn't. Several other sites have similar problems. I understand how hard it is for a converter to cover so many sites and convert into so many different forum formats. Which is why I don't really think this is the way to go.

So... I propose instead that a standard format for hand histories is introduced. Obviously it's too hard to just say "this format is standard, use it" and actually see it happen. My idea is basically to take the converters that handle lots of different sites now and change the logic that converts them into forum formats and instead converts them into the "standard format". Then, seperate forum converters could easily be made that only have to translate from the "standard format".

I for one would be very interested in writing a converter that translates a "standard format" hand history to the FCP forums directly.

If anyone knows the author of any of the hand history converters that convert multiple sites, please let me know how I can get in touch with them as I don't want to do this logic from scratch.

As for how the "standard format" should look, this really doesn't matter too much. Most sites do a fairly good job, although some sites have ridiculous hand history formats. The difference most sites have that have good formats is little things like punctuation, spacing, and order of actions in a hand.

Thoughts? Ideas? Know someone who made a converter?

Let me know...

I'm pretty sure UB changed their HH format a while back, and no one has updated since then. I know the FTR converter hasn't been updated in years.

Did we try to get UB hands working not too long ago? I vaguely remember this... I also remember being able to convert them...

Anyways, http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter

There is contact info for this guy at the top of the page, if you are looking for someone to contact, anyways.

Yeah Zach we did try to figure out the UB thing before, and we got it working because i removed the spacing using find/replace. Or at least that's how I thought we had it working for a while. I've done the same things recently and had no luck at all. But really, there are a lot of problems with these converters overall I think so I am still looking to do this idea even if I did figure out how to convert UB hands again.

I'll contact that guy...

Update:

Since it looks like he's close to making a version 2 to his converter, I just suggested that my idea of a "standard hand history" be available as an output option.

Also Zach, I tried converting a Limit Hold'Em hand from UB after removing the odd spacing and it worked, but the No-Limit ones seem not to work after removing the spacing =[