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Alex916F
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t4120)
MP2 (t845)
MP3 (t4499)
Hero (t4900)
Button (t3467)
SB (t2095)
BB (t1585)
UTG (t1815)
UTG+1 (t6384)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif , A icon_suit_spade.gif .
5 folds, Hero raises to t450, 1 fold, SB calls t375, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1350) K icon_suit_club.gif , A icon_suit_heart.gif , 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t650, SB folds, BB raises to t1135, Hero calls t485.




I bet the flop cuz i felt like the size of both their stacks made it so i wouldnt be able to fold no matter what line i took.... your thoughts?
ChrisRichey
You're priced in on the flop. Not much you can do.
copernicus
QUOTE (Alex916F @ Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, 6:14 PM) *
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t4120)
MP2 (t845)
MP3 (t4499)
Hero (t4900)
Button (t3467)
SB (t2095)
BB (t1585)
UTG (t1815)
UTG+1 (t6384)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif , A icon_suit_spade.gif .
5 folds, Hero raises to t450, 1 fold, SB calls t375, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1350) K icon_suit_club.gif , A icon_suit_heart.gif , 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t650, SB folds, BB raises to t1135, Hero calls t485.
I bet the flop cuz i felt like the size of both their stacks made it so i wouldnt be able to fold no matter what line i took.... your thoughts?


If youre committed to calling their raise (which I agree you are) on the flop you should push yourself. AK, AQ are probably pushing preflop, so you only have AJ and AT ahead of you, lots of other Aces behind you. If they hit a set or two pair all of their money is going in.

I would minraise preflop with those stacks behind me. They arent likely to play for any raise without a hand, and it gives you a lot more room to maneuver on the flop/turn. Theres only 900 in the pot if you do that, and a bet of 450 has you less committed, although I would still find it hard to fold.
Eric Smith
If you lost the pot there is nothing you can do. When you raise with A9o that is the flop you are hoping for.

I suggest checking and trying to enduce a bluff. The board is dry so most turns should be safe. Chances are if you show weakness, marginal hands that would've folded on the flop will bet the turn (i. e. the king or a backdoor draw).
navybuttons
QUOTE (Eric Smith @ Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, 3:28 PM) *
If you lost the pot there is nothing you can do. When you raise with A9o that is the flop you are hoping for.

I suggest checking and trying to enduce a bluff. The board is dry so most turns should be safe. Chances are if you show weakness, marginal hands that would've folded on the flop will bet the turn (i. e. the king or a backdoor draw).


do you think if the turn comes a J and villian has J10 hero is going to stack him?
throwemaway
QUOTE (Eric Smith @ Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, 3:28 PM) *
If you lost the pot there is nothing you can do. When you raise with A9o that is the flop you are hoping for.

I suggest checking and trying to enduce a bluff. The board is dry so most turns should be safe. Chances are if you show weakness, marginal hands that would've folded on the flop will bet the turn (i. e. the king or a backdoor draw).


There are a ton of turn cards that are horrible for us..Any paint besides an A (obv) is bad..They complete gut shots and make 2 pairs all day..

If this player has any idea of pot odds, he knows if you c/bet, he has no fold equity..So we arent inducing a c/r bluff every by betting what you did..Therefore I think I like to shove, maybe he'll interpret this as weakness and call with Ax
ChrisRichey
I don't think a push is necessary. With villains stack size, it's all going in on the flop if he has an ace. Also, depending on villain, he may even c/r with a K figuring we are repping the A when we raised from a steal position.
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