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zedd2005
dunno if i made a correct call here, it worked out i had best hand.
i felt this guy was very weak. he smooth called my 2.5 times raise pre (i know, i know 3 times, but ub sliders are crap). when i bet on flop, he only min raised me so i thought maybe he was hoping to pick the pot up there and then. after he pushed on the turn, i let the timer go all the way down. but his min raise on flop stuck out bad. i really felt he had nothing, which it turned out he didnt. but did i make a bad call here for all ma chips, just because of my read, when he could easily have a pair pre or on the board, or even ak. i feel i coulda lost this hand, but my gut was telling me to call so badly and after going through his possible hands, i put him on a draw at best.

Hand #37041504-19686 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
tropical wind wins $7.
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Hand #37041504-19685 at Oshawa (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 13/Jan/07 08:03:33

tropical wind is at seat 0 with $227.85.
peejaytwo is at seat 1 with $299.35.
zedd2005 is at seat 2 with $70.90.
Bendern is at seat 3 with $70.
checkndatass is at seat 4 with $90.
tmiracle is at seat 5 with $135.60.
The button is at seat 5.

tropical wind posts the small blind of $1.
peejaytwo posts the big blind of $2.

tropical wind: -- --
peejaytwo: -- --
zedd2005: Ac Qc
Bendern: -- --
checkndatass: -- --
tmiracle: -- --

Pre-flop:

zedd2005 raises to $5. Bendern folds. checkndatass
calls. tmiracle folds. tropical wind folds.
peejaytwo folds.

Flop (board: 8c 3s 6d):

zedd2005 bets $9. checkndatass raises to $18.
zedd2005 calls.

Turn (board: 8c 3s 6d 2d):

zedd2005 checks. checkndatass bets $49. zedd2005
goes all-in for $47.90. checkndatass is returned
$1.10 (uncalled).

River (board: 8c 3s 6d 2d Kc):

(no action in this round)




edited for no results
No_Neck
take it over to NL strat, convert your hands, don't show results.

I don't see how you could make money making these calls long term, but if you had a read go with it.
trystero
You got lucky and will lose money making calls like this.

What a minraise means depends on your opponent. If you had a read that with this player it meant a draw or a steal attempt, then I understand calling on a safe turn. But you had no such read. You really just crossed your fingers and hoped you were ahead somehow.

When you went through his possible hands, how could you conclude that he had 'a draw at best'? The only information you have is that he called preflop, minraised the flop, and bet about the pot on the turn. I'd grant him a pretty wide range that includes overpairs, 87, 98, 67, etc, a set, and, yeah, OESDs too.
zedd2005
true, there is a lot of sense in what you said. 99% of the time, im folding this hand. i know better to call with ace hi usually. but i suppose i shuda explained this guy a bit first. i seen him pull this type of move before. he reraised like that and then pushed turn few times before. to be fair, i really felt i was ahead and the odd hands he had shown down were loser bluffs.
Vogelb5
You gotta have a perfect read to make this play. If your wrong you possibly have 6 outs, but very easily could be reverse dominated. I can maybe see making A hi all in call on the river to a big overbet w/ reads, but not sure how many times your right on a min raised flop and basically a normal turn bet. He has about the pot left, no reason to medium bet when he's commited anyways.. so that bet doesn't tell you too much.

Good result.
Doug
I think he made a set on the flop tbh. Played it a bit weird though.
No_Neck
QUOTE (zedd2005 @ Saturday, January 13th, 2007, 12:37 PM) *
true, there is a lot of sense in what you said. 99% of the time, im folding this hand. i know better to call with ace hi usually. but i suppose i shuda explained this guy a bit first. i seen him pull this type of move before. he reraised like that and then pushed turn few times before. to be fair, i really felt i was ahead and the odd hands he had shown down were loser bluffs.


the way to make money against these guys is tighten up a little bit and just play for stacks. Even if he is super weak there are a TON of hands that beat you. Wait a pair and you will save yourself a lot of mental anguish.
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