Just wondering what ROI i should be shooting for when playing SNG's

Depends if you are playing HU, 6, 9, 18, etc seater STTs.

Anything positive is good, and 30% is generally regarded as unsustainable. If you are at around 20% you are doing extremely well. You will only discover regression to the mean after about 100, depending on what you are playing, and your true ROI won't begin to regress fully until you have played at least 500.

i think 300% sounds about right for 9 mans.

not being sarcastic.

That's nothing, I average about 600% in HU sngs.

so what, i have a 2% on sngs.

It also depends on buy-in.

This is a guide for attainable ROI's on SH SnGs (1 table):

$11 - 25% ROI
$22 - 20% ROI
$33 - 16% ROI
$55 - 13% ROI
$109 - 10% ROI
$215 - 7% ROI


So, whatever your average buy-in, if you are at that ROI level then that is very good.

why does it depend on the buy-in? i thought donks were everywhere.

well really my bankroll management sucks...like i was down to 8 bucks on stars the other day...worked it up 450 yesterday through alot of different games...but sharkscope has me at 24% ROI through like 835 games last time i checked,,i play everything from 180's to HU...everythingfrom 105's down to 5 bucks...i found the 5 dollar sngs had players better than the 55's sometimes...anyhow just wondering if 24% was good....thanks

24% is good, but the way I look at it, the ROI that you need to sustain is the one that keeps your bankroll moving up and not down. I don't really think that there is a magic number.

Playing 55 sng with a br under 500 is not really the thing you want to do. Obviously you have won a few to get up that high that quick, but you will lose it just as fast. Patience is the key.

yeah you're right patience is key...i think now i got it at above 20% i'm gonna try my best to stick to proper BR management as best i can

Currently Im at around 27% through just over 200 games. I guess i've played ok, but i know i can do much better. I think between 30-35% is my goal to shoot for.

those numbers are unsubstantiated. sharkscope Genius28

OP: my previous reply was not meant as a joke.

wow! I'm jealous

300% for 9 mans through atleast a thousand games is a little excessive dont you think?

Considering the vast majority of players lose, anything >0 is outstanding.

Do 45 man SnG's fall under the same guidelines for ROI goals as 9 mans?

no. theoritically a winning player should have a better ROI at 45 mans

General question from the ignorant (myself I mean)

Does anyone know or care to post of good bankroll strategy for sng play? Or at least explain the logic behind planning a bankroll based off of sng's with a few mixed MTT's?

This is very true. I play mostly $5 stts at the moment, and sometimes when it's shorthanded I check the other players in sharkscope - I almost never find anyone who is a winning playr, often they have hundreds of $ in losses with ROIs lower than -30%. I don't know what percentage of players are losing money in online poker - but I think that number might be as high as 90% or so in low buyin s&gs.

did you get my PM? i'm still having trouble w/ this new board.

ah yes I did ... and twice ;-) lol

I believe the guys that play the 180s full time has ROIs of 80%+.
But for the normal 9- or 10-mans, I think anything above 10% is good.
No clue for 18 or 27s (although I'd imagine it should be in the 20% range? Just a guess)