5 limpers to the SB and BB (me w/ q9o)

flop
7 players

q 9 3 rainbow

It gets checked around to CO who bets $10. I reraise to $35. MP player goes all in for $300, CO folds, i fold.
MP has had big hands when he gets to shown down. I think he heavily proscribes to the idea that low limit players can't fold and plays accordingly.

Meh, you don't have much invested. I'd like to know how much you have in your stack though. If you have <$100, I call. Anything more, I probably fold.

And you don't "proscribe" to an idea, just fyi.

$300



sigh

smells like 33 to me. i like the fold especially against a good player.

It's either a split pot or you're beat. In a way, it reminds me of Bill Ivey folding AT on a board of AA799 when his opponent reraises allin for $1600 into a $300 pot (or something like that).

This is an interesting discussion to have in this section, I think..how do we approach this type of player, in general?. I see 1/2 and 2/5 NL players that are not even necessarily talented, but just very straightforward and push really hard with semi-strong/strong hands because they don't ever want to get beat by a fish. It can be a little frustrating to play against them sometimes because they make me fold stronger hands than they have, but I can often also stack them, especially if it seems to them that I've been playing a lot of hands.

Case in point, a baller-type of kid no older than me (looked about 17) at the Taj in AC, 1/2 NL. I get 99 in UTG +2, and it's about my 4th hand and the first I became involved in. Loose donk UTG limps, I limp, kid makes it $9 to go, donk and I call. Flop comes J9J. Donk bets out $13, I call, kid raises to $90. NINETY. Donk folds, I him-haw hoping he had KK/AA and put neither of us on a J, then pushed fo $160ish total, he calls with AJ.

So, he raised big in EP, in front of unknown and loose limpers, and then raised to NINETY having flopped top trips/top kicker. May not be a -EV policy at crappy 1/2 tables (could I have really gotten away from the flop if I had the case J in my hand?), as it's basically a post-flop smash-system. BUT, this particular table was at 2am on a Monday night, so most of the players were somewhat knowledgeable...and the kid got crushed for at least 2 buyins while I was there for about an hour.

I really don't see this as that poor of a play. Kid pushes $40 into a pot of $50 with top set. Just because he ran into a flopped boat doesn't make it a poor play.

Did you stop reading after what you quoted? I mentioned it probably wasn't -EV...just different.

Self edited because I really do not care enough to start a flame war.

Comment to them about making a big lay-down and appear weak-tight at the first chance you get. that's where i usually go w/ that. If i had Q10 on this board, i would probably have told him i was laying down two pair cause I want to take the thought of implied odds against me out of his head.

Don't want to set him up for a punch in the mouth instead..saying something like "Well I'm folding A9 here..although I think it might be good..."