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aim786
Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with kc.gif jd.gif
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9d.gif 10h.gif ks.gif (6SB, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO folds, SB caps, Hero calls.

Turn: 9s.gif (7.5BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: jc.gif (9.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13.5BB

New to the table, no reads.
Mattnxtc
I really just dont like the flop 3bet
Moneyball16
I agree that I dont like the flop 3-bet here. Also how do you guys play this hand preflop against unknowns? When its folded to me in mp I always open with a raise and with one limper I normally try an iso raise, but after multiple limpers when I have KJo in mp I never know which of the three options to choose.
Shimmering Wang
QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 5:09 AM) *
I agree that I dont like the flop 3-bet here. Also how do you guys play this hand preflop against unknowns? When its folded to me in mp I always open with a raise and with one limper I normally try an iso raise, but after multiple limpers when I have KJo in mp I never know which of the three options to choose.


Against the two limpers, I'm raising KJo every time. I really don't want to let CO and Button in for free, and folding out SB and BB is good, too. But we really have to be raising this so we can have the button.

Wang
TheCinciKid
I'm not thrilled about pre-flop here, but I'm not sure raising is better. I hate to have to play this hand very multi-way, but with 2 limpers already in I think it becomes close. Partly depends on table conditions. If I think I can fold everybody behind me including the blinds (except maybe the BB) I think raising is best here, with one limper I definitely raise. Otherwise, I guess calling is ok. Folding isn't an option obv, but I'm definitely tempted to raise here.

Flop 3-bet is a spew here IMO. The only reason to 3-bet this is if you've bet from late position and SB is the first to act after you. If he's a solid player who might be raising with middle pair or a weak K in an attempt to thin the field against a possible late position bluff, then 3-betting is ok. I don't see that as the case here, which just make it spewing.

Turn and river are fine. I don't like checking behind on the river and I'm definitely not folding to the river check-raise as oddly as this hand played out.
aim786
QUOTE (TheCinciKid @ Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 7:33 AM) *
I'm not thrilled about pre-flop here, but I'm not sure raising is better. I hate to have to play this hand very multi-way, but with 2 limpers already in I think it becomes close. Partly depends on table conditions. If I think I can fold everybody behind me including the blinds (except maybe the BB) I think raising is best here, with one limper I definitely raise. Otherwise, I guess calling is ok. Folding isn't an option obv, but I'm definitely tempted to raise here.

Flop 3-bet is a spew here IMO. The only reason to 3-bet this is if you've bet from late position and SB is the first to act after you. If he's a solid player who might be raising with middle pair or a weak K in an attempt to thin the field against a possible late position bluff, then 3-betting is ok. I don't see that as the case here, which just make it spewing.

Turn and river are fine. I don't like checking behind on the river and I'm definitely not folding to the river check-raise as oddly as this hand played out.


Why don't you think he's trying to thin out the field here?

Nobody folds KJo in this spot pf right?
Actuary
PF: I'm with Cinci. raise to fold others, but at loose tables, I'd much rather play in for 1 bet preflop and not tie myself to hand

flop: I like 3 bet. I like doing what we can to fold out CO, who has at least a gut shot, maybe bp, Ax..'

river: I chk behind. We beat K8.
Zach6668
QUOTE (Actuary @ Sunday, December 17th, 2006, 2:37 AM) *
river: I chk behind. We beat K8.

and

KT, AK (you'd be suprised the hands I see limped at AP), J8 (aggressive draw?)

But yeah, there's isn't much we beat.
Actuary
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Sunday, December 17th, 2006, 10:48 AM) *
and

KT, AK (you'd be suprised the hands I see limped at AP), J8 (aggressive draw?)

But yeah, there's isn't much we beat.



yeah.
I was biased by villain action
Aim should leave out the raise, imo.

I'm finding more c/r's with hands like 9T against villains who bet in pos there; but usually better hands lead.
aim786
QUOTE (Actuary @ Sunday, December 17th, 2006, 12:31 PM) *
yeah.
I was biased by villain action
Aim should leave out the raise, imo.

I'm finding more c/r's with hands like 9T against villains who bet in pos there; but usually better hands lead.


I agree.

And you guys are right, checking behind on the river is prolly the right play.
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