gd it didn't work i will edit and post the details myself
Full Ring PLO low stakes:
Seat 1: bennyborns ( $10.35)
Seat 2: ChocLuv111 ( $35)
Seat 3: HaHa_DONKAMENTS ( $34.15)
Seat 4: Villan Donk( $15.45)
Seat 5: cdot8888 ( $8.05) (BUTTON)
Seat 6: iamgerryq ( $22)
Seat 7: Villan ( $15.95)
Seat 8: Davoice21 ( $17.60)
Seat 9: MadManKeFu ( $24.50)
Seat 10: Hero ( $26.84)
iamgerryq posts small blind (0.10)
Dealt to hero [ Js, Qd, 9d, Ts ]
Davoice21 folds.
MadManKeFu folds.
Hero raises (0.85) to 0.85
bennyborns folds.
ChocLuv111 folds.
Villan calls (0.85)
Villian DONK calls (0.85)
cdot8888 calls (0.85)
iamgerryq folds.
Villan calls (0.60)
Flop Ks, 9s, 5c
megapels checks.
Hero bets (2)
HaHa_DONKAMENTS folds.
AgnAT54 calls (2)
cdot8888 folds.
megapels raises (12.15) to 12.15
thehidden21 raises (23.99) to 25.99
thehidden21 is all-In.
HaHa_DONKAMENTS: set of kings? (WTF NOT EVEN IN THE HAND)
VillanDcalls (12.60)
VillanD is all-In.
Villan calls (2.95)
Villan is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ] *only card that would have been sweeter would have been the Qs)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ] (crap)
Results in white below
long story short Villian D had the same straight but with like JT as his only draw and under cards
Villan had KK34 single suit
Can i get some feedback?
Full Version: Feedback On A Plo Hand...
Preflop is good.
Leading this flop is standard.
Some may just call the flop re-pot but a blank turn puts us in a very difficult situation so i like the push.
Leading this flop is standard.
Some may just call the flop re-pot but a blank turn puts us in a very difficult situation so i like the push.
Edit: I'm not sure who's who. Hidden=hero, right? AgnAT54= villain? megapels = villain donk? So three handed on the end?
Mostly it's a coin flip against reasonable hands. If our spades are live, I'd rather have the money in now. If they're not, we're putting our money in bad.
I don't think I fold the turn getting 3:1 unless the board pairs and I have a solid read on my opponent. So, I think the push is OK.
Two dimes
Mostly it's a coin flip against reasonable hands. If our spades are live, I'd rather have the money in now. If they're not, we're putting our money in bad.
I don't think I fold the turn getting 3:1 unless the board pairs and I have a solid read on my opponent. So, I think the push is OK.
Two dimes
CODE
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - kc 9h ac th -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 454 55.37 366 44.63 0 0.00 0.554
Ac Kc Th 9h 366 44.63 454 55.37 0 0.00 0.446
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as th qs 7h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 392 47.80 353 43.05 75 9.15 0.524
As Qs Th 7h 353 43.05 392 47.80 75 9.15 0.476
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - kc kh 4s 4d -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 396 48.29 424 51.71 0 0.00 0.483
4s Kc 4d Kh 424 51.71 396 48.29 0 0.00 0.517
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as kh qs 9h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 212 25.85 608 74.15 0 0.00 0.259
As Qs Kh 9h 608 74.15 212 25.85 0 0.00 0.741
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 454 55.37 366 44.63 0 0.00 0.554
Ac Kc Th 9h 366 44.63 454 55.37 0 0.00 0.446
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as th qs 7h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 392 47.80 353 43.05 75 9.15 0.524
As Qs Th 7h 353 43.05 392 47.80 75 9.15 0.476
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - kc kh 4s 4d -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 396 48.29 424 51.71 0 0.00 0.483
4s Kc 4d Kh 424 51.71 396 48.29 0 0.00 0.517
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as kh qs 9h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 212 25.85 608 74.15 0 0.00 0.259
As Qs Kh 9h 608 74.15 212 25.85 0 0.00 0.741
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 6:22 AM) 
Edit: I'm not sure who's who. Hidden=hero, right? AgnAT54= villain? megapels = villain donk? So three handed on the end?
Mostly it's a coin flip against reasonable hands. If our spades are live, I'd rather have the money in now. If they're not, we're putting our money in bad.
I don't think I fold the turn getting 3:1 unless the board pairs and I have a solid read on my opponent. So, I think the push is OK.
Two dimes
Mostly it's a coin flip against reasonable hands. If our spades are live, I'd rather have the money in now. If they're not, we're putting our money in bad.
I don't think I fold the turn getting 3:1 unless the board pairs and I have a solid read on my opponent. So, I think the push is OK.
Two dimes
CODE
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - kc 9h ac th -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 454 55.37 366 44.63 0 0.00 0.554
Ac Kc Th 9h 366 44.63 454 55.37 0 0.00 0.446
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as th qs 7h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 392 47.80 353 43.05 75 9.15 0.524
As Qs Th 7h 353 43.05 392 47.80 75 9.15 0.476
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - kc kh 4s 4d -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 396 48.29 424 51.71 0 0.00 0.483
4s Kc 4d Kh 424 51.71 396 48.29 0 0.00 0.517
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as kh qs 9h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 212 25.85 608 74.15 0 0.00 0.259
As Qs Kh 9h 608 74.15 212 25.85 0 0.00 0.741
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 454 55.37 366 44.63 0 0.00 0.554
Ac Kc Th 9h 366 44.63 454 55.37 0 0.00 0.446
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as th qs 7h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 392 47.80 353 43.05 75 9.15 0.524
As Qs Th 7h 353 43.05 392 47.80 75 9.15 0.476
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - kc kh 4s 4d -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 396 48.29 424 51.71 0 0.00 0.483
4s Kc 4d Kh 424 51.71 396 48.29 0 0.00 0.517
pokenum -o js qd 9d ts - as kh qs 9h -- ks 9s 5c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Ks 9s 5c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts Qd 9d 212 25.85 608 74.15 0 0.00 0.259
As Qs Kh 9h 608 74.15 212 25.85 0 0.00 0.741
spades were live, esspecially the Qs becuase that was my straight flush card, all i saw on the turn was a black queen and i'm like YES, then i saw the club.
So gernerally the play was OK? i generally play tight in PLO but push big draws hard.
BUD: Seriously fold preflop in the CO with double suited connectors? how come?
QUOTE (thehidden @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 7:14 PM)
BUD: Seriously fold preflop in the CO with double suited connectors? how come?
I said preflop is good not fold preflop
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 4:42 PM)
Preflop is good.
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 7:28 AM)
I said preflop is good not fold preflop
i know what u said, i'm just looking for clarification, not trying to be a jack ***...why would you fold preflop?
QUOTE (thehidden @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 7:30 PM)
i know what u said, i'm just looking for clarification, not trying to be a jack ***...why would you fold preflop?
You lost me.
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 5:26 PM)
You lost me.
And me.
You played the hand fine.
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 9:26 AM)
You lost me.
I was asking....Why would you fold the hand preflop?
QUOTE (thehidden @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 6:30 PM)
I was asking....Why would you fold the hand preflop?
Are you wanting plausible arguments for folding this?
Noone thus far has even hinted at folding preflop.
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 11:07 AM)
Are you wanting plausible arguments for folding this?
Noone thus far has even hinted at folding preflop.
Noone thus far has even hinted at folding preflop.
hahaha i am a donkey idiot...i was so tired last night that i read
"preflop is good" as fold preflop
and i just continued with that..
sorry guyslol
QUOTE (thehidden @ Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 2:37 PM)
hahaha i am a donkey idiot...
Agreed.
That said, you played the hand fine. We all know that the Qs is a live out for you.
After the hand, you know the spades turned out to be live. During the hand, though, Dave's replay regarding "if the spades are live," you didn't know at the time, and someone will often be in/push/call with the nut flush draw here, so not all 9 outs are always live.
That said, if the spades turn out to be live, with a gutshot, you're pretty much a coinflip with that flop, so if you're aggressive, getting the money in there, especially 3-1 is never bad.
QUOTE (Whiskey16 @ Wednesday, December 6th, 2006, 9:56 AM)
Agreed.
That said, you played the hand fine. We all know that the Qs is a live out for you.
After the hand, you know the spades turned out to be live. During the hand, though, Dave's replay regarding "if the spades are live," you didn't know at the time, and someone will often be in/push/call with the nut flush draw here, so not all 9 outs are always live.
That said, if the spades turn out to be live, with a gutshot, you're pretty much a coinflip with that flop, so if you're aggressive, getting the money in there, especially 3-1 is never bad.
That said, you played the hand fine. We all know that the Qs is a live out for you.
After the hand, you know the spades turned out to be live. During the hand, though, Dave's replay regarding "if the spades are live," you didn't know at the time, and someone will often be in/push/call with the nut flush draw here, so not all 9 outs are always live.
That said, if the spades turn out to be live, with a gutshot, you're pretty much a coinflip with that flop, so if you're aggressive, getting the money in there, especially 3-1 is never bad.
hmm good analysis, me saying the spades were live was purely read dependant i had actually put both of them on a set seeing i saw the donk put it in with bottom set no redraw against three tight players jamming...so i was thinking my draw was live...even if they had spades it was prolly nut lo...but i'm happy with my play...woudl have been nice to scoop though
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